Jeremy Calhoun - isn't it ironic

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Sad really because he could have gone from being a good running back to a legend on Saturday.

Yeah. So much wasted potential. Pretty god dam sad indeed.

 

[grzz]

If Hauck hadn't screwed Calhoun over from the beginning there wouldn't have been talk of a redshirt year. Sure he sat out the first two games, but how much playing time did he get from Game 3 and on? Only one of those games was he injured and wasn't able to go. The rest of them, he should have been our starter and had the bulk of the carries. Sorry, this is on Hauck.

How did Hauck screw JC over? The big thing that everyone forgets is that the fight settlement plea deal was not finalized until 5:30 pm on September 12th which was the Wednesday afternoon / early evening before the team traveled to Western Illinois. So it makes sense that Hauck was not counting on him for the WIU game which was the 3rd game of the season.

And let's also not forget that JC, after the fight in May got a disorderly conduct charge in June, 5 weeks after the fight.

Quite frankly it was a miracle that he was even on the team at that point.

And then he decides he does not want to play the last two games so he can redshirt when he is not injured and the coaching staff was counting on him? Yeah, Bobby really screwed him over. That's rich.

Exactly. This whole deal with JC is about JC and his selfish behavior.

It is amazing how people make this shit up, right. Oh, Bobby f*** JC over. No. He suspended him three games? No. He suspended him two games, for getting himself arrested twice. He missed the whole Wednesday practice before WIU because he was in court. Pretty sure if any other player missed a Wednesday practice they are not going to be on the travel squad. Simple as that.

I don't have a problem with him missing the third game because he was in court Wednesday, that all makes sense. The criticism I have, and many others on this board are saying as well, is at the point where Calhoun was allowed to travel with the team and play in games, why wasn't he being used more? he was clearly the best running back on the team? Why, once he was available, did they not use the guy that gave them the best chance to win? All the stuff about how Calhoun should have been kicked off the team and was lucky to be playing at all is fine, but the point is that HE WAS ALLOWED TO BE ON THE TEAM. It was a questionable decision not to use the best RB option more throughout the season, that is all.

 

[hilinegrizfan]

How did Hauck screw JC over? The big thing that everyone forgets is that the fight settlement plea deal was not finalized until 5:30 pm on September 12th which was the Wednesday afternoon / early evening before the team traveled to Western Illinois. So it makes sense that Hauck was not counting on him for the WIU game which was the 3rd game of the season.

And let's also not forget that JC, after the fight in May got a disorderly conduct charge in June, 5 weeks after the fight.

Quite frankly it was a miracle that he was even on the team at that point.

And then he decides he does not want to play the last two games so he can redshirt when he is not injured and the coaching staff was counting on him? Yeah, Bobby really screwed him over. That's rich.

Exactly. This whole deal with JC is about JC and his selfish behavior.

It is amazing how people make this shit up, right. Oh, Bobby f*** JC over. No. He suspended him three games? No. He suspended him two games, for getting himself arrested twice. He missed the whole Wednesday practice before WIU because he was in court. Pretty sure if any other player missed a Wednesday practice they are not going to be on the travel squad. Simple as that.

I don't have a problem with him missing the third game because he was in court Wednesday, that all makes sense. The criticism I have, and many others on this board are saying as well, is at the point where Calhoun was allowed to travel with the team and play in games, why wasn't he being used more? he was clearly the best running back on the team? Why, once he was available, did they not use the guy that gave them the best chance to win? All the stuff about how Calhoun should have been kicked off the team and was lucky to be playing at all is fine, but the point is that HE WAS ALLOWED TO BE ON THE TEAM. It was a questionable decision not to use the best RB option more throughout the season, that is all.

He was RB1 going into idaho game. hauck had him earn the spot back, appropriately. And he did.

 

[84GRIZ]

One more fact. In the four games that JC played (Sac State were he got hurt in the beginning of the fourth, North Dakota, UC Davis and Southern Utah) he had 41 carries, Eastwood had 39. If you take out Sac State where he got the concussion and North Dakota were he had 4 carries and Eastwood had 5 and look at UC Davis and Southern Utah JC had 32 carries to Eastwood's 16. Not sure how Hauck screwed him. He was basically the starter after he came back from the hit that he took against Sac. State.

 

[cf2000]

Took him until Idaho to be the #1 back????? Whatever. You could see he was the #1 back the minute he was in his first game.

 

[hilinegrizfan]

Took him until Idaho to be the #1 back????? Whatever. You could see he was the #1 back the minute he was in his first game.

he was #1 back in s. utah and sac st. too im pretty sure

 

[grizindabox]

Took him until Idaho to be the #1 back????? Whatever. You could see he was the #1 back the minute he was in his first game.

Well, if he wouldn't have eff'd up and had to battle back from the bottom, it might have been sooner. JC played a big part in this issue, it is not all on Hauck at all.

 

[braves84]

...fcuk the cats...
...fcuk calhoun...
...time to move on...

... ...

Real mature, bet you wouldn't have the guts to say that to his face.

 

[84GRIZ]

How did Hauck screw JC over? The big thing that everyone forgets is that the fight settlement plea deal was not finalized until 5:30 pm on September 12th which was the Wednesday afternoon / early evening before the team traveled to Western Illinois. So it makes sense that Hauck was not counting on him for the WIU game which was the 3rd game of the season.

And let's also not forget that JC, after the fight in May got a disorderly conduct charge in June, 5 weeks after the fight.

Quite frankly it was a miracle that he was even on the team at that point.

And then he decides he does not want to play the last two games so he can redshirt when he is not injured and the coaching staff was counting on him? Yeah, Bobby really screwed him over. That's rich.

Exactly. This whole deal with JC is about JC and his selfish behavior.

It is amazing how people make this shit up, right. Oh, Bobby f*** JC over. No. He suspended him three games? No. He suspended him two games, for getting himself arrested twice. He missed the whole Wednesday practice before WIU because he was in court. Pretty sure if any other player missed a Wednesday practice they are not going to be on the travel squad. Simple as that.

I don't have a problem with him missing the third game because he was in court Wednesday, that all makes sense. The criticism I have, and many others on this board are saying as well, is at the point where Calhoun was allowed to travel with the team and play in games, why wasn't he being used more? he was clearly the best running back on the team? Why, once he was available, did they not use the guy that gave them the best chance to win? All the stuff about how Calhoun should have been kicked off the team and was lucky to be playing at all is fine, but the point is that HE WAS ALLOWED TO BE ON THE TEAM. It was a questionable decision not to use the best RB option more throughout the season, that is all.

From North Dakota on he was basically the number one running back. At North Dakota he had 4 rushes and Eastwood had 5 because we were so far behind. UC Davis and Southern Utah he had double the rushing attempts that Eastwood had. I think for UC Davis and Idaho the depth chart was listed as Jeremy Calhoun or Adam Eastwood. When he was not on suspension, missing the the WIU game because of his court appearance or hurt (Cal Poly and PSU) he was basically the starter.

The only game that he played in that Eastwood got substantially more carries was Sac. State, really his first game back and that was the one where he took the hit to the head at the beginning of the fourth quarter on the screen pass and then missed the rest of that game, Cal Poly and PSU.

Again, no evidence that Bobby screwed him.

 

[AZGrizFan]

If Hauck hadn't screwed Calhoun over from the beginning there wouldn't have been talk of a redshirt year. Sure he sat out the first two games, but how much playing time did he get from Game 3 and on? Only one of those games was he injured and wasn't able to go. The rest of them, he should have been our starter and had the bulk of the carries. Sorry, this is on Hauck.

Probably ...

Imagine getting a job at the most coveted company in the State of Montana and having that job questioned on the front page of every paper in the State because you supposedly can't control your employees. Then also imagine on top of that a petition is started to get the offer taken away, also because you can't control your personnel and you run a loose ship. Within months some of your staff is criminally charged. I would suspect any grown up would handle this the same way and has to set an example no matter how good of an employee he or she was. Particularly if it was a veteran of your company that some of the newer employees looked up to you don't want them thinking this is acceptable. My guess is in the business world those employees that got in trouble were fired.

In this case he got a suspension, was able to come back and by the end of his season had earned the majority of the carries in his final two games. But instead of being happy about that he decided he was going to demand more from the coach and dictate how he wanted his scholarship to be used. The coach decided he wanted and needed him this year and by golly he was right. Most likely this team and all his teammates are in the playoffs if he wanted to play the final games. Anyone that claims they would have handled this any differently than Bobby is kidding themselves.

yup, calhoun plays in that game and we beat the cats and are in the playoffs. bobby knew we needed him.

And yet, Bobby being Bobby, he was unable to be the mature one in the room and instead we didn't have JC for the final two games OR for next year. So, lose-lose. Nice work, Hauck.

 

[Fahque]

don't you think? that we have the ball on the one yard line with the go ahead score at our fingertips and we don't have our experienced senior running back to power it into the endzone?

Bobby was right to not let him redshirt. He knew that we, griz nation, needed him now to beat the cats this year. Something we all desperately wanted and needed to turn the ship around. I think justin punches that in, and definitely doesn't fumble. People have been saying we a linebacker U... We are fumble U. Its the reason we lost to UWI, PSU, and and MSU. plain and simple. I don't think we were out-coached or out played. we just give up the ball.

Also curious what you all think of the play call to have Sneed in shotgun and hand it off... it seems to me you would want to get the ball in eastwoods hands as soon as possible... put sneed under center and hit it quick. either that or put the ball in sneeds (our playmakers) hands, just let sneed try to punch it in from the shotgun. seems like that shotgun handoff gives the D-line an extra 1 or 2 seconds to penetrate the backfield...

It was an exciting game but I'd rather of lost by 40. I can't think of a worse way to lose a game. Gonna take me awhile to get over it. We win that game everything changes. feels like a huge step backwards.

What do you mean Bobby didn't let him redshirt? He did redshirt, hence the reason he didn't play in the last two games. He just most likely won't be playing his final year of eligibility here, unfortunately.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

And yet, Bobby being Bobby, he was unable to be the mature one in the room and instead we didn't have JC for the final two games OR for next year. So, lose-lose. Nice work, Hauck.

This is a stupid take.

 

[AZGrizFan]

And yet, Bobby being Bobby, he was unable to be the mature one in the room and instead we didn't have JC for the final two games OR for next year. So, lose-lose. Nice work, Hauck.

This is a stupid take.

How so? Bobby was able to completely fuck up the situation and not convince JC to play out the year, so we end up with NO JC this year and no JC next year. That's a failure as a head coach.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

And yet, Bobby being Bobby, he was unable to be the mature one in the room and instead we didn't have JC for the final two games OR for next year. So, lose-lose. Nice work, Hauck.

This is a stupid take.

How so? Bobby was able to completely f*** up the situation and not convince JC to play out the year, so we end up with NO JC this year and no JC next year. That's a failure as a head coach.

Not sure I see anything there to question Hauck's maturity. And I am not sure how he fucked up the situation, as it seems that JC had his mind made up. Only so much a guy can do.

 

[AZGrizFan]

And yet, Bobby being Bobby, he was unable to be the mature one in the room and instead we didn't have JC for the final two games OR for next year. So, lose-lose. Nice work, Hauck.

This is a stupid take.

How so? Bobby was able to completely f*** up the situation and not convince JC to play out the year, so we end up with NO JC this year and no JC next year. That's a failure as a head coach.

Not sure I see anything there to question Hauck's maturity. And I am not sure how he fucked up the situation, as it seems that JC had his mind made up. Only so much a guy can do.

Well, we'll never know for sure, but some assumptions can be made based off the Hauck we DO know...a good coach and good motivator would have convinced JC to run through a brick wall for him THIS year during that conversation. Instead, he "no longer wanted to play football" (untrue, but that's Hauck's public spin) and we're left with Deadwood trying to carry the ball for 6" and failing.

 

[grizpack]

It is my understanding that JC told Bobby that his intention was not to play the last 2 games. Bobby tried to convince him that we really needed him for those games. 2 rivalry opponents. Need 2 wins. Possible playoffs. Kind of thin at RB. He is our best back, and the team needs him this year. JC's answer was no, he was gonna try to redshirt.

You can think whatever you want about whether JC should be here next year. But he chose not to play in the last 2 games, when the season was on the line.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

This is a stupid take.

How so? Bobby was able to completely f*** up the situation and not convince JC to play out the year, so we end up with NO JC this year and no JC next year. That's a failure as a head coach.

Not sure I see anything there to question Hauck's maturity. And I am not sure how he f***[*] up the situation, as it seems that JC had his mind made up. Only so much a guy can do.

Well, we'll never know for sure, but some assumptions can be made based off the Hauck we DO know...a good coach and good motivator would have convinced JC to run through a brick wall for him THIS year during that conversation. Instead, he "no longer wanted to play football" (untrue, but that's Hauck's public spin) and we're left with Deadwood trying to carry the ball for 6" and failing.

Actually it was not untrue. JC no longer wanted to play football this season and I didn't see anywhere that Hauck suggested differently. I get that you have a total hardon for this coaching staff and they are always going to be the bad guys in your eyes.

 

[Griz Stud]

Pretty sure JC would get hurt running into a brick wall, hes pretty soft and gets injured often.

Does anyone believe that JC had the courage to apologize to his teammates for quitting on them and ultimately losing this game because of his decision to quit?

Me either

 

[argh!]

and ultimately losing this game because of his decision to quit?

yeah, it is all calhoun's fault. but i thought nobody could run behind that oline? or is it that any excuse will do, other than claiming the coaching wasn't up to par?

 

[grizpack]

and ultimately losing this game because of his decision to quit?

yeah, it is all calhoun's fault. but i thought nobody could run behind that oline? or is it that any excuse will do, other than claiming the coaching wasn't up to par?

You really can't have it both ways. Either he wouldn't have made any difference because of the play call, or he would have made a difference and we really needed him in there.