Jeff Choate new MSU Head Coach

[EverettGriz]

in favor of something that doesn't look like a tornado target.

:lol:

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Congratulations Coach Biff Chode. Welcome to Cat Nation. Prepare to win...uh, games over weaker D-II opponents!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Congratulations Coach Biff Chode. Welcome to Cat Nation. Prepare to win...uh, games over weaker D-II opponents!

:lol: Prepare to win World Bowls.

 

[bigsky33]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Maybe Ron Ash will win a World Bowl (I don't know what a World Bowl is).

Isn't a world bowl on the menu @ Big Bowl? I usually get whatever is extra gluten on the menu. And if you drop a business card in the big bowl in front you can win a world bowl on your birthday. Not sure if Ron will want to use one his old cards for that, but I suppose you could cross out the information that isn't current and put down a forwarding address. Will have to keep an eye out for those khakis next time I'm there.

I think that's right. :clap:
I know Ron has a thing for Asian fusion food.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

I know you are just joking, but how to the Cat fans feel about him saying that at the press conference? I can't imagine the boosters enjoyed being fed that line. Even the most loyal Cat fans have to have rolled their eyes somewhat when he said that!

 

[RobGriz]

Lubick got fired by the cats , Dennis never was the head coach. So it is a graveyard for head coaches. Glenn lead Wyoming to a bowl win,

OK I'll concede that, kind of. True Dennis was not HC here. Lubick still coached at MSU before being let go and then moving up. And he still had more success at the next level than ANY UM coach has. I wish we would have kept Lubick also. We even fired a HC who went on to be HC at Rutgers and NFL Europe, even won a World Bowl, but I didn't even mention Doug Graber. We should've kept him too.

So Glenn's one bowl win is greater than Sweeney's 5 bowl wins? that's the story?

Hey innovative coach Stitt -- move up to the best FCS program in the country, and you too can look forward to the success that Joe Glenn has enjoyed!!!

2003 Wyoming 4–8 2–5 T–7th
2004 Wyoming 7–5 3–4 T–4th W Las Vegas
2005 Wyoming 4–7 2–6 8th
2006 Wyoming 6–6 5–3 T–3rd
2007 Wyoming 5–7 2–6 T–7th
2008 Wyoming 4–8 1–7 T–8th
Wyoming: 30–41 15–31
South Dakota Coyotes (Missouri Valley Football Conference) (2012–2015)
2012 South Dakota 1–10 0–8 10th
2013 South Dakota 4–8 3–5 T–7th
2014 South Dakota 2–10 0–8 10th
2015 South Dakota 5–6 3–5 T–6th

You still can't name a Griz HC in the past 40 years that has had MORE success at the next level than former Bobcat HC's have. No former Griz HC has won a conference championship, a World Bowl, or any other championship after moving up from UM. Have they??? Ours have, and you just can't intelligently say that equates to a graveyard.

I know you have a (or even "the") premier FCS football program in the country. I don't dispute that. But your program brings you success, NOT your Head Coaches. UM is an end game for a HC. They just don't move up and have the same success they had at UM. Maybe Stitt will buck that trend?

This whole fucking argument is relevant to nothing.

 

[bigsky33]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

I know you are just joking, but how to the Cat fans feel about him saying that at the press conference? I can't imagine the boosters enjoyed being fed that line. Even the most loyal Cat fans have to have rolled their eyes somewhat when he said that!

Are you referring to recruiting CDA? With Choates many connections and if he retains Iaone and he is bringing in Matt Miller and Armstrong, MSU will own Montana recruiting. There is definitely a lot of connections there. The little Stitt should prepare!

 

[JDoub]

It seems like the coaching situation is improving. Ron was never going to get that program to a semifinal. I think Fields might have gotten lucky with the Jon Choate hire. I do think it's a bit disingenuous for Choade to try to suggest to the boosters that he is going to win the Montana recruiting battle; that's just not realistic. It's like being introduced as the coach at Bowling Green and saying that you are going to win the NC. I think you are correct. It's an above average program trying to find itself in the shadow of its big bro.

I always have fun here!

Jon Choade, now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are - Ronny Hack, Robyn Pflunkgrade, or Blade Allen Stitt-on-a-stick.

We are catching up on facilities. Good for you guys that you found your Sugar Denny. But having a Sugar Daddy doesn't make you a big brother any more than walking into a garage makes you a car.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

I know you are just joking, but how to the Cat fans feel about him saying that at the press conference? I can't imagine the boosters enjoyed being fed that line. Even the most loyal Cat fans have to have rolled their eyes somewhat when he said that!

Are you referring to recruiting CDA? With Choates many connections and if he retains Iaone and he is bringing in Matt Miller and Armstrong, MSU will own Montana recruiting. There is definitely a lot of connections there. The little Stitt should prepare!

Haha! Yeah . . . yeah, I was talking about recruiting. I'm genuinely sorry, I didn't think you were being serious. :lol:

 

[Ursa Major]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

I know you are just joking, but how to the Cat fans feel about him saying that at the press conference? I can't imagine the boosters enjoyed being fed that line. Even the most loyal Cat fans have to have rolled their eyes somewhat when he said that!

Are you referring to recruiting CDA? With Choates many connections and if he retains Iaone and he is bringing in Matt Miller and Armstrong, MSU will own Montana recruiting. There is definitely a lot of connections there. The little Stitt should prepare!

Oh my God, that's a peach!!

Coach Harry Choate mentions that he knows a lot of people in Montana twice in an awkward press conference and the cat faithful take it as gospel.

Montana kid recruited by both teams: We'll I grew up watching and rooting for the Griz and both my parents graduated from UM. The Griz are an elite program that has dominated the cats in the brawl but coach Choate was buddies with my middle school math teacher so I'm going to be a cat!!

 

[UMGriz75]

Not so much the program sucks, 'cause we don't suck. But we have let go of good coaches habitually. And we just did it again.

Well, I tend to agree about Ash, at least the way it was handled, but even that was not nearly as brutal as what UM and its alleged president did to Robin Pflugrad and Jim O'Day.

 

[UMGriz75]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

Are you referring to recruiting CDA? With Choates many connections and if he retains Iaone and he is bringing in Matt Miller and Armstrong, MSU will own Montana recruiting. There is definitely a lot of connections there. The little Stitt should prepare!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

It seems like the coaching situation is improving. Ron was never going to get that program to a semifinal. I think Fields might have gotten lucky with the Jon Choate hire. I do think it's a bit disingenuous for Choade to try to suggest to the boosters that he is going to win the Montana recruiting battle; that's just not realistic. It's like being introduced as the coach at Bowling Green and saying that you are going to win the NC. I think you are correct. It's an above average program trying to find itself in the shadow of its big bro.

I always have fun here!

Jon Choade, now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are - Ronny Hack, Robyn Pflunkgrade, or Blade Allen Stitt-on-a-stick.

We are catching up on facilities. Good for you guys that you found your Sugar Denny. But having a Sugar Daddy doesn't make you a big brother any more than walking into a garage makes you a car.

I always laugh when you guys talk about private donors as something that UM should be embarrassed about. Literally every single top program in the nation gets a lot of funding from private donors. As I've said before, programs like MSU just levy the taxpayers.

Having private donors doesn't make UM big bro. 73-37 and 25 of the last 30 does. :thumb:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

I know you are just joking, but how to the Cat fans feel about him saying that at the press conference? I can't imagine the boosters enjoyed being fed that line. Even the most loyal Cat fans have to have rolled their eyes somewhat when he said that!

Are you referring to recruiting CDA? With Choates many connections and if he retains Iaone and he is bringing in Matt Miller and Armstrong, MSU will own Montana recruiting. There is definitely a lot of connections there. The little Stitt should prepare!

Oh my God, that's a peach!!

Coach Harry Choate mentions that he knows a lot of people in Montana twice in an awkward press conference and the cat faithful take it as gospel.

Montana kid recruited by both teams: We'll I grew up watching and rooting for the Griz and both my parents graduated from UM. The Griz are an elite program that has dominated the cats in the brawl but coach Choate was buddies with my middle school math teacher so I'm going to be a cat!!

:lol: :clap:

 

[bigsky33]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

Are you referring to recruiting CDA? With Choates many connections and if he retains Iaone and he is bringing in Matt Miller and Armstrong, MSU will own Montana recruiting. There is definitely a lot of connections there. The little Stitt should prepare!

With that lineup MSU is putting together for Montana recruiting, I would put my money on them over the little Stitt.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Bigsky33, you do know you're talking about MSU v. UM in a football recruiting "battle," right?

 

[EverettGriz]

Stitt-prepare to lose all those Montana recruiting battles!

Are you referring to recruiting CDA? With Choates many connections and if he retains Iaone and he is bringing in Matt Miller and Armstrong, MSU will own Montana recruiting. There is definitely a lot of connections there. The little Stitt should prepare!

With that lineup MSU is putting together for Montana recruiting, I would put my money on them over the little Stitt.

fuck, I'd take that bet in a second, but I know you'd never pay off. cat fans never do.

 

[HookedonGriz]

BigSky33 you lost us all at your guarantee that big play VA was not going to Oregon and heading back to EWU. You have ZERO credibility here with your idiotic statements like that. So I'll take whatever you say as exact opposite of what actually takes place.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

It is interesting that the Wombats chose someone who didn't even make it into the final interviews at UM. He certainly doesn't come to the job as an earth-shaker; really kind of an odd choice given the hysteria in Bozeman over the state of the football program. A definite let-down for those all fired up over the prospects of Hill coming to Bozeman but, face it, the 'Bats managed to make a bad situation worse; a clumsy firing of a winning coach who had a bad year, a 40 year record of being a graveyard for collegiate coaches, a rabid irrational fanbase, a QB and asst coach conspiring to pressure the AD, an AD whose spine is kept in a closet in the president's office, and Montana's largest outdoor septic tank placed next to a stadium widely derided as a kitty litter box.

He is, if nothing else, a brave man.

I am one who agrees that we should have kept Ash. But that didn't happen.

As far as a '40 year record of being a graveyard for college coaches' -- I don't know about that. Here's some Bobcat coaches from the past 40 years who have had some success after Bozeman:
Dennis Erickson - 2 National Championships at Miami, 7 Conference Championships Pac10 & Big East, 10 FBS Bowl games with 5 wins
Jim Sweeney - 5 Conference Championships at Fresno, 5 FBS Bowl wins
Sonny Lubick - 7 Conference Championships at CSU, 3 FBS Bowl wins - see 'Sonny Lubick Field' at CSU
Dave Arnold - Assistant on 2 National Champion FBS teams, 20 years coaching FBS/NFL

Now, I had to look it up:
Larry Donovan, went 0-4 with the BC Lions and never a HC again, unless you count Japanese X League Hurricanes (seriously), and Renesas Technologies from 1992 until 2007. He was a training camp coach and consultant for the Asahi Beverage Challengers in Osaka, Japan in 2010.
Joe Glenn, after UM never won a conference title again to date
Don Read -- retired on top -- all respect, good guy
Bobby Hauck - 15-49 at UNLV, did make it to one Bowl game but lost that. Assistant at SDSU, meh
Robin Pflugrad - not sure what happened to him after OC Weber State 2013
Mick - personal family friend and I love the man, you know he coached at MSU first, right? filled gap admirably

Unless I'm missing something, can you tell me what UM coach had more success than former MSU coaches moving up? Looking at it, it seems to me that UM is more of a coaching graveyard for college coaches than MSU.

Nice, but inaccurate summary.

Sweeney last coached at MSU in 1968, 47 years ago and outside of your 40 year window.

Erickson was only an asst coach.

Arnold has one very nice year, but was 18-29 overall and has seasons of 1-10, 2-9, 3-8. Don't most people credit him with the demise of MSU football.

Lubick became a nice coach. However, was fired by MSU, after 4-6 and 3-7 seasons.

You do know your team history..........