IVYs looking to ban tackling in practice.

[horribilisfan8184]

Dartmouth hasn't tackled in practice for some time now. Practice injuries and concussions are down. Dartmouth was Ivy co-champion last fall. See rankings of final poll for last fall.

14 Montana 8-5 276 17
15 The Citadel 9-4 264 18
16 South Dakota State 8-4 244 12
17 Coastal Carolina 9-3 243 9
18 Southern Utah 8-4 193 16
19 Fordham 9-3 167 15
20 Harvard 9-1 117 19
21 North Carolina A&T 10-2 105 20
22 Western Illinois 7-6 92 NR
23 Dartmouth 9-1

Dartmouth students and the coach, a former Dartmouth player, have invented and are continuing to improve this tackling machine. See links.

http://www.wptz.com/news/robot-makes-tackling-safer-for-dartmouth-football-team/34936748

http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/28/dartmouth-football-tackling-robot/

But if the Griz tackled in practice, why isn't Ty's defense in the top 50?

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/22

You have to go to the second page to find the Griz at 57. This has to be a typo. The guy had multiple FBS offers.

 

[PlayerRep]

The Ivy League would add so much to the FCS playoffs. Hopefully they will start playing some time soon. If they did, the quality of player would probably increase. I wonder how the Ivy players feel about not being in the FCS playoffs. It would be a power conference if they gave out 65 football scholarships each year. My guess is they choose not to in order to not let sports become the focus of their institutions.

Yes, the Ivy League would be very strong in the playoffs.

Yes, the Ivies would add to playoff. I don't see the Ivy presidents allowing the Ivies to participate in the playoffs. There has never been hardly any support from the presidents for participation. They have drawn a line in the sand. Most players would like to participate in the playoffs, but they know the deal when they go to the Ivies so it's not a big issue once they get there. Participation in the playoffs would help significantly with recruiting. Of course, scholarships would also help, but I'm fine with no scholarships. Plus, the top Ivies offer great need-based scholarships to all students, including athletes, so kids from families making under certain amounts of income get great scholarships. See below. Your last sentence is correct, but all other sports participate in playoffs or post-season play.

"Princeton University

Tuition for 2015-16: $43,450
Policy: Families making less than $54,000 a year don't pay tuition, room or board, and families making less than $120,000 a year don't pay tuition."

The problem is that despite great scholarships, there is often still a big chunk of cost to pay, often much more than the total cost of going to a school like UM.

 

[PlayerRep]

Dartmouth and Harvard were number 1 and 2 in scoring defense last fall. 10.1 and 13. Not as good as the 4.7 given up my junior year. Dartmouth was number 4 in Total Defense last fall. NDSU was number 3. Looks like the Ivies can tackle. Note that UM's and Montana's no. 1 running back this year, is going to Yale. We'll see if he can approach prior Yale running backs like Calvin Hill, Dick Jauron and Chuck Mercein.

And Dartmouth and Harvard played who? If they were in th BS they would give up 30+ per game.

1. If the Big Sky played Harvard and Dartmouth, they wouldn't score any points. Ha. Actually, Harvard and Dartmouth would have ompeted well in the Big Sky last fall.

2. Yale, 3-4 in the Ivies and 6-4 overall, beat Colgate last fall. Colgate advanced further in the playoffs than UM. Dartmouth beat Yale 35-3 and Harvard beat Yale 38-19. Yale beat Army in 2014.

3. The last Ivy to play a Big Sky conference team was Yale in its win over CP 24-10 in 2013. Yale was 5-5 that year and was beaten by Dartmouth and Harvard. UM beat CP 21-14 two weeks after Yale beat CP.

4. How many players did UM have at the NFL Combine this year? Harvard had 2. The TE put up big numbers.

"INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – Harvard football standouts Ben Braunecker and Cole Toner participated in the 2016 National Football League (NFL) Scouting Combine over the weekend.

Braunecker earned top marks across the events, posting a top-three finish for tight ends in the 60-yard shuttle (first, 11.32), vertical jump (second, 35.5), broad jump (second, 10'1''), 3-cone drill (second, 6.90), 20-yard shuttle (second, 4.2) and bench press (third, 20). Braunecker also ran a 4.73 in the 40-yard shuttle, just 0.02 off the second-place mark.

Toner also posted strong marks across the events. The offensive lineman ran a 5.32 40-yard dash. Toner hit 22 reps on the bench press and jumped 103.0 inches in the board jump. In the 3-cone dill, Toner posted a 7.88 second speed and finished the 20-yard shuttle in 4.59 seconds."

5. As I mentioned previously, Montana's best high school running back, and the no. 1 rb on UM's recruiting list, committed to Yale this year.

Weird...I would have thought that the Griz thought pretty highly of our 3 star RB we grabbed out of Washington???? But what would I know....I didnt go to an Ivy and I hit my head a lot practicing tackling.

You also didn't talk to Justin Green about this. Did UM offer the running back a full ride? Look at what posters have already said on the board.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Dartmouth and Harvard were number 1 and 2 in scoring defense last fall. 10.1 and 13. Not as good as the 4.7 given up my junior year. Dartmouth was number 4 in Total Defense last fall. NDSU was number 3. Looks like the Ivies can tackle. Note that UM's and Montana's no. 1 running back this year, is going to Yale. We'll see if he can approach prior Yale running backs like Calvin Hill, Dick Jauron and Chuck Mercein.

And Dartmouth and Harvard played who? If they were in th BS they would give up 30+ per game.

1. If the Big Sky played Harvard and Dartmouth, they wouldn't score any points. Ha. Actually, Harvard and Dartmouth would have ompeted well in the Big Sky last fall.

2. Yale, 3-4 in the Ivies and 6-4 overall, beat Colgate last fall. Colgate advanced further in the playoffs than UM. Dartmouth beat Yale 35-3 and Harvard beat Yale 38-19. Yale beat Army in 2014.

3. The last Ivy to play a Big Sky conference team was Yale in its win over CP 24-10 in 2013. Yale was 5-5 that year and was beaten by Dartmouth and Harvard. UM beat CP 21-14 two weeks after Yale beat CP.

4. How many players did UM have at the NFL Combine this year? Harvard had 2. The TE put up big numbers.

"INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – Harvard football standouts Ben Braunecker and Cole Toner participated in the 2016 National Football League (NFL) Scouting Combine over the weekend.

Braunecker earned top marks across the events, posting a top-three finish for tight ends in the 60-yard shuttle (first, 11.32), vertical jump (second, 35.5), broad jump (second, 10'1''), 3-cone drill (second, 6.90), 20-yard shuttle (second, 4.2) and bench press (third, 20). Braunecker also ran a 4.73 in the 40-yard shuttle, just 0.02 off the second-place mark.

Toner also posted strong marks across the events. The offensive lineman ran a 5.32 40-yard dash. Toner hit 22 reps on the bench press and jumped 103.0 inches in the board jump. In the 3-cone dill, Toner posted a 7.88 second speed and finished the 20-yard shuttle in 4.59 seconds."

5. As I mentioned previously, Montana's best high school running back, and the no. 1 rb on UM's recruiting list, committed to Yale this year.

I appreciate you speaking up on this PlayerRep.

The Ivy League would add so much to the FCS playoffs. Hopefully they will start playing some time soon. If they did, the quality of player would probably increase. I wonder how the Ivy players feel about not being in the FCS playoffs. It would be a power conference if they gave out 65 football scholarships each year. My guess is they choose not to in order to not let sports become the focus of their institutions.

Yes, the Ivy League would be very strong in the playoffs.

False...the Ivys chose not to give out 65 athletic scholarships because the world could not handle the power and pure force that would culminate in bringing together 65 PlayerReps onto one program......another pass would ever be caught with 65 shut down corners with massive brains.

They would have to move the Rose bowl to the upper east coast because the west coast teams would no longer be able to make it with 65 rock solid human specimens with the athletic/tackling/open field pursuit ability equal to a cheatah running down a gazelle on the safari.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Just get rid of playing football altogether and have computer simulated games. That way nobody gets hurt. :roll:

Hell with virtual reality even PR could hustle some hot split tail!

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

And Dartmouth and Harvard played who? If they were in th BS they would give up 30+ per game.

1. If the Big Sky played Harvard and Dartmouth, they wouldn't score any points. Ha. Actually, Harvard and Dartmouth would have ompeted well in the Big Sky last fall.

2. Yale, 3-4 in the Ivies and 6-4 overall, beat Colgate last fall. Colgate advanced further in the playoffs than UM. Dartmouth beat Yale 35-3 and Harvard beat Yale 38-19. Yale beat Army in 2014.

3. The last Ivy to play a Big Sky conference team was Yale in its win over CP 24-10 in 2013. Yale was 5-5 that year and was beaten by Dartmouth and Harvard. UM beat CP 21-14 two weeks after Yale beat CP.

4. How many players did UM have at the NFL Combine this year? Harvard had 2. The TE put up big numbers.

"INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – Harvard football standouts Ben Braunecker and Cole Toner participated in the 2016 National Football League (NFL) Scouting Combine over the weekend.

Braunecker earned top marks across the events, posting a top-three finish for tight ends in the 60-yard shuttle (first, 11.32), vertical jump (second, 35.5), broad jump (second, 10'1''), 3-cone drill (second, 6.90), 20-yard shuttle (second, 4.2) and bench press (third, 20). Braunecker also ran a 4.73 in the 40-yard shuttle, just 0.02 off the second-place mark.

Toner also posted strong marks across the events. The offensive lineman ran a 5.32 40-yard dash. Toner hit 22 reps on the bench press and jumped 103.0 inches in the board jump. In the 3-cone dill, Toner posted a 7.88 second speed and finished the 20-yard shuttle in 4.59 seconds."

5. As I mentioned previously, Montana's best high school running back, and the no. 1 rb on UM's recruiting list, committed to Yale this year.

I appreciate you speaking up on this PlayerRep.

The Ivy League would add so much to the FCS playoffs. Hopefully they will start playing some time soon. If they did, the quality of player would probably increase. I wonder how the Ivy players feel about not being in the FCS playoffs. It would be a power conference if they gave out 65 football scholarships each year. My guess is they choose not to in order to not let sports become the focus of their institutions.

Yes, the Ivy League would be very strong in the playoffs.

False...the Ivys chose not to give out 65 athletic scholarships because the world could not handle the power and pure force that would culminate in bringing together 65 PlayerReps onto one program......another pass would ever be caught with 65 shut down corners with massive brains.

They would have to move the Rose bowl to the upper east coast because the west coast teams would no longer be able to make it with 65 rock solid human specimens with the athletic/tackling/open field pursuit ability equal to a cheatah running down a gazelle on the safari.

It would be worse than your description except the Ivy League teams would be well under .500 against blue collar teams. There us a reason they don't play in the playoffs, they know they would get their asses kicked against real teams that have to earn it on the field.

Their academic excuse is a fu*king lie only the idiot left would buy.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

1. If the Big Sky played Harvard and Dartmouth, they wouldn't score any points. Ha. Actually, Harvard and Dartmouth would have ompeted well in the Big Sky last fall.

2. Yale, 3-4 in the Ivies and 6-4 overall, beat Colgate last fall. Colgate advanced further in the playoffs than UM. Dartmouth beat Yale 35-3 and Harvard beat Yale 38-19. Yale beat Army in 2014.

3. The last Ivy to play a Big Sky conference team was Yale in its win over CP 24-10 in 2013. Yale was 5-5 that year and was beaten by Dartmouth and Harvard. UM beat CP 21-14 two weeks after Yale beat CP.

4. How many players did UM have at the NFL Combine this year? Harvard had 2. The TE put up big numbers.

"INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – Harvard football standouts Ben Braunecker and Cole Toner participated in the 2016 National Football League (NFL) Scouting Combine over the weekend.

Braunecker earned top marks across the events, posting a top-three finish for tight ends in the 60-yard shuttle (first, 11.32), vertical jump (second, 35.5), broad jump (second, 10'1''), 3-cone drill (second, 6.90), 20-yard shuttle (second, 4.2) and bench press (third, 20). Braunecker also ran a 4.73 in the 40-yard shuttle, just 0.02 off the second-place mark.

Toner also posted strong marks across the events. The offensive lineman ran a 5.32 40-yard dash. Toner hit 22 reps on the bench press and jumped 103.0 inches in the board jump. In the 3-cone dill, Toner posted a 7.88 second speed and finished the 20-yard shuttle in 4.59 seconds."

5. As I mentioned previously, Montana's best high school running back, and the no. 1 rb on UM's recruiting list, committed to Yale this year.

I appreciate you speaking up on this PlayerRep.

The Ivy League would add so much to the FCS playoffs. Hopefully they will start playing some time soon. If they did, the quality of player would probably increase. I wonder how the Ivy players feel about not being in the FCS playoffs. It would be a power conference if they gave out 65 football scholarships each year. My guess is they choose not to in order to not let sports become the focus of their institutions.

Yes, the Ivy League would be very strong in the playoffs.

False...the Ivys chose not to give out 65 athletic scholarships because the world could not handle the power and pure force that would culminate in bringing together 65 PlayerReps onto one program......another pass would ever be caught with 65 shut down corners with massive brains.

They would have to move the Rose bowl to the upper east coast because the west coast teams would no longer be able to make it with 65 rock solid human specimens with the athletic/tackling/open field pursuit ability equal to a cheatah running down a gazelle on the safari.

It would be worse than your description except the Ivy League teams would be well under .500 against blue collar teams. There us a reason they don't play in the playoffs, they know they would get their asses kicked against real teams that have to earn it on the field.

Their academic excuse is a fu*king lie only the idiot left would buy.

Excuse me???? Have you not heard of the legendary Rose Bowl performances of the one we call PlayaRep?

 

[getgrizzy]

I appreciate you speaking up on this PlayerRep.

The Ivy League would add so much to the FCS playoffs. Hopefully they will start playing some time soon. If they did, the quality of player would probably increase. I wonder how the Ivy players feel about not being in the FCS playoffs. It would be a power conference if they gave out 65 football scholarships each year. My guess is they choose not to in order to not let sports become the focus of their institutions.

Yes, the Ivy League would be very strong in the playoffs.

False...the Ivys chose not to give out 65 athletic scholarships because the world could not handle the power and pure force that would culminate in bringing together 65 PlayerReps onto one program......another pass would ever be caught with 65 shut down corners with massive brains.

They would have to move the Rose bowl to the upper east coast because the west coast teams would no longer be able to make it with 65 rock solid human specimens with the athletic/tackling/open field pursuit ability equal to a cheatah running down a gazelle on the safari.

It would be worse than your description except the Ivy League teams would be well under .500 against blue collar teams. There us a reason they don't play in the playoffs, they know they would get their asses kicked against real teams that have to earn it on the field.

Their academic excuse is a fu*king lie only the idiot left would buy.

Excuse me???? Have you not heard of the legendary Rose Bowl performances of the one we call PlayaRep?

If the Ivy League wanted to, it would be one of the top conferences in the FCS and one of the better conferences in the FBS. They just choose not to. The schools in the Ivy could just snap their fingers and money for sports facilities would roll in in numbers that would dwarf many of the FBS conferences.

 

[brewskis]

The old Lane Ione and Ron Ash approach. Bold move.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

False...the Ivys chose not to give out 65 athletic scholarships because the world could not handle the power and pure force that would culminate in bringing together 65 PlayerReps onto one program......another pass would ever be caught with 65 shut down corners with massive brains.

They would have to move the Rose bowl to the upper east coast because the west coast teams would no longer be able to make it with 65 rock solid human specimens with the athletic/tackling/open field pursuit ability equal to a cheatah running down a gazelle on the safari.

It would be worse than your description except the Ivy League teams would be well under .500 against blue collar teams. There us a reason they don't play in the playoffs, they know they would get their asses kicked against real teams that have to earn it on the field.

Their academic excuse is a fu*king lie only the idiot left would buy.

Excuse me???? Have you not heard of the legendary Rose Bowl performances of the one we call PlayaRep?

If the Ivy League wanted to, it would be one of the top conferences in the FCS and one of the better conferences in the FBS. They just choose not to. The schools in the Ivy could just snap their fingers and money for sports facilities would roll in in numbers that would dwarf many of the FBS conferences.

Gwen...we know!

 

[PlayerRep]

The Ivies did pretty well until the split in D-I that created what is now FBS and FCS. Prior to that, Ivies had won multiple Lambert Trophies (best team in east) over schools like Penn St, BC, Pitt, Syracuse, West Virginia. Dartmouth won the Lambert in 1962, 1965 and 1970. 1970 was the last Lambert for an Ivy. Lots of Rose Bowl appearances in the old days. John Heisman went to Penn. Walter Camp went to Yale. Now, not so much.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

#nobodycares
#leastcoast

 

[IdaGriz01]

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If the Ivy League wanted to, it would be one of the top conferences in the FCS and one of the better conferences in the FBS. They just choose not to. The schools in the Ivy could just snap their fingers and money for sports facilities would roll in in numbers that would dwarf many of the FBS conferences.

I tend to agree.

Never been on an Ivy campus, but have met quite a few graduates from those schools. Hard to know who is serious and who's being PC when they talk about sports. Seems like the [bad] "image" of a big-time football program is the main problem ... they just can't stand the thought that they might compromise their "academic rigor" to field competitive big-boy sports (read football and, maybe, basketball). Never mind that "academic rigor" is regularly compromised in the name of "diversity" and other PC-BS. (FWIW, the "diversity" versus "rigor" comment was made by a brilliant black attorney ... who might one day be on the Supreme Court.)

Oddly enough, the Ivies do have a model of how to compete at the FBS level and stay true to their academic image -- Stanford, the "Harvard of the West," seems to do just fine.

 

[PlayerRep]

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If the Ivy League wanted to, it would be one of the top conferences in the FCS and one of the better conferences in the FBS. They just choose not to. The schools in the Ivy could just snap their fingers and money for sports facilities would roll in in numbers that would dwarf many of the FBS conferences.

I tend to agree.

Never been on an Ivy campus, but have met quite a few graduates from those schools. Hard to know who is serious and who's being PC when they talk about sports. Seems like the [bad] "image" of a big-time football program is the main problem ... they just can't stand the thought that they might compromise their "academic rigor" to field competitive big-boy sports (read football and, maybe, basketball). Never mind that "academic rigor" is regularly compromised in the name of "diversity" and other PC-BS. (FWIW, the "diversity" versus "rigor" comment was made by a brilliant black attorney ... who might one day be on the Supreme Court.)

Oddly enough, the Ivies do have a model of how to compete at the FBS level and stay true to their academic image -- Stanford, the "Harvard of the West," seems to do just fine.

Stanford keeps true to academic image, and attracts good kids, but it's admission standards for athletes are lower than the Ivies. For sports like football and basketball, as opposed to lacrosse, hockey and soccer, the Ivies don't want to be truly FBS level. They want good basketball and fairly good or credible football. They means mainly the presidents and their minions.

 

[Umista]

I don't give a damn if IVYs play flag, tackle or have womens football.

Who in the hell cares about IVY league?

As far as the Griz go....practice tackling has caused more injuries than playing in real games!

 

[ordigger]

With current climate in regard to safety, don't be surprised if everyone is playing flag football within the lifetime of some current eGriz posters. I'll be dead within in ten years so I won't have to see it.

 

[SoldierGriz]

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If the Ivy League wanted to, it would be one of the top conferences in the FCS and one of the better conferences in the FBS. They just choose not to. The schools in the Ivy could just snap their fingers and money for sports facilities would roll in in numbers that would dwarf many of the FBS conferences.

I tend to agree.

Never been on an Ivy campus, but have met quite a few graduates from those schools. Hard to know who is serious and who's being PC when they talk about sports. Seems like the [bad] "image" of a big-time football program is the main problem ... they just can't stand the thought that they might compromise their "academic rigor" to field competitive big-boy sports (read football and, maybe, basketball). Never mind that "academic rigor" is regularly compromised in the name of "diversity" and other PC-BS. (FWIW, the "diversity" versus "rigor" comment was made by a brilliant black attorney ... who might one day be on the Supreme Court.)

Oddly enough, the Ivies do have a model of how to compete at the FBS level and stay true to their academic image -- Stanford, the "Harvard of the West," seems to do just fine.

Stanford keeps true to academic image, and attracts good kids, but it's admission standards for athletes are lower than the Ivies. For sports like football and basketball, as opposed to lacrosse, hockey and soccer, the Ivies don't want to be truly FBS level. They want good basketball and fairly good or credible football. They means mainly the presidents and their minions.

At least recently, Stanford is THE most selective university in the US, admitting just 5% of applicants.

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-9-us-colleges-are-more-selective-than-some-ivy-league-schools-2015-3

At both Stanford and the Ivys, most recruited athletes fall into the bottom quartile or half in terms of their academic prowess with test scores as the benchmark. This is not meant as a negative....their test scores are all still qualifying for their institution, and better that 90% of other kids in the Nation. They all recruit the best of the very best academic performers who also happen to be athletes.

Military Academies are very similar in most ways, but they have the added challenge of finding kids who want to serve following graduation...a VERY, VERY difficult recruiting situation.

 

[bgbigdog]

Can we get an "Ivy" on the schedule? Like to see what all the fuss is about.

I thought UM was the Harvard of the West? Confusing.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Can we get an "Ivy" on the schedule? Like to see what all the fuss is about.

I thought UM was the Harvard of the West? Confusing.

We should be. :lol: But, I think our admission rate is pretty damn high right now...

But, yes...we should bring in an Ivy for a game.

 

[bgbigdog]

Can we get an "Ivy" on the schedule? Like to see what all the fuss is about.

I thought UM was the Harvard of the West? Confusing.

We should be. :lol: But, I think our admission rate is pretty damn high right now...

But, yes...we should bring in an Ivy for a game.

How about a Service Academy? Do it the week before CPSLO. Got to believe we'd get a leg up there.