Ivy League Averages More Attendance than Big Sky

[UMGriz75]

I find this description odd as to the resurrection. I was on two Big Sky Conference Championship Swimming and Diving Teams in 72/73 and 73/74. We worked out in that swimming pool once or twice when the present one was under maintenance.

Not sure why you find it "odd." I think it's neat to know that the Old Pool has been a useful standby more than once. I don't remember it functioning in that capacity during those years, but I had no particular reason to know about it. In Schreiber Gym, UM has a very direct representation of an "Ivy League" atmosphere with that old gym and that old pool, with the scandalous nude statue on the front of the Gym, "Diskobolos." "Swim team," along with wrestling and gymnastics, were part of that Ivy League tradition that I do think explains in part the greater enthusiasm in Ivy League schools for "attendance" at sporting events in general.

Fred Stetson was perhaps the most laconic person I ever tried to pry a story out of as a sports reporter.

 

[bigforkgriz]

I find this description odd as to the resurrection. I was on two Big Sky Conference Championship Swimming and Diving Teams in 72/73 and 73/74. We worked out in that swimming pool once or twice when the present one was under maintenance.

Not sure why you find it "odd." I think it's neat to know that the Old Pool has been a useful standby more than once. I don't remember it functioning in that capacity during those years, but I had no particular reason to know about it. In Schreiber Gym, UM has a very direct representation of an "Ivy League" atmosphere with that old gym and that old pool. "Swim team," along with wrestling and gymnastics, were part of that Ivy League tradition that I do think explains in part the greater enthusiasm in Ivy League schools for "attendance" at sporting events in general.

Fred Stetson was perhaps the most laconic person I ever tried to pry a story out of as a sports reporter.

Fred was an enigma, but he did a couple of very insightful and gracious things for me.

That old gym had the running track around the top also that was classic.

 

[UMGriz75]

Fred was an enigma, but he did a couple of very insightful and gracious things for me.

Fred Stetson was one of UM's most successful NCAA coaches in any sport. I later realized his "problem" was personal shyness. He had no public relationship skills whatsoever.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I find this description odd as to the resurrection. I was on two Big Sky Conference Championship Swimming and Diving Teams in 72/73 and 73/74. We worked out in that swimming pool once or twice when the present one was under maintenance.

Not sure why you find it "odd." I think it's neat to know that the Old Pool has been a useful standby more than once. I don't remember it functioning in that capacity during those years, but I had no particular reason to know about it. In Schreiber Gym, UM has a very direct representation of an "Ivy League" atmosphere with that old gym and that old pool. "Swim team," along with wrestling and gymnastics, were part of that Ivy League tradition that I do think explains in part the greater enthusiasm in Ivy League schools for "attendance" at sporting events in general.

Fred Stetson was perhaps the most laconic person I ever tried to pry a story out of as a sports reporter.

Fred was an enigma, but he did a couple of very insightful and gracious things for me.

That old gym had the running track around the top also that was classic.

I remember that track. Ran around it many times. Didn't realize there was a pool underneath the floor....

 

[GrizGuy]

Whatever. I'll take half the BSC over half the Ivies in football games any day. Not sure what the point of this comparison is. Unless the idea is to promote dumping the bottom couple of teams in the league. I could get behind that.

 

[Silvertip]

As a very small child (ahem)...I knew of the "Old Men's Gym" pool....which back then I assumed was reserved for the aquatic enjoyment of fossils over the age of 21... Missoula has a second hidden swimming pool - under the lower level of the Wilma Building. The floor laid overhead later requires ducking down in order to see to see what's left of it. It was closed after discovering that the Clark Fork leaked into it back when the river channel ran right up against the building.

 

[PlayerRep]

Whatever. I'll take half the BSC over half the Ivies in football games any day. Not sure what the point of this comparison is. Unless the idea is to promote dumping the bottom couple of teams in the league. I could get behind that.

Okay. I'll take Harvard, Dartmouth, Yale and Penn (maybe even Princeton), and you can have No Colo, UND, Weber, So Utah, PSU and whatever else you want.

The comparison was made because someone started a thread on attendance, I looked up the school and conference attendance stats, I noticed that the Ivies were above the Big Sky, and I posted that. I thought it was interesting. Didn't mean to offend so many people by pointing out a fact. Not directing this comment at you, GG. You are one of the GG's.

 

[UMGriz75]

The comparison was made because someone started a thread on attendance, I looked up the school and conference attendance stats, I noticed that the Ivies were above the Big Sky, and I posted that. I thought it was interesting. Didn't mean to offend so many people by pointing out a fact. Not directing this comment at you, GG. You are one of the GG's.

And I thought it was interesting because there is a significant historical connection between Ivy League schools and the elite British universities they were patterned after with regard to their attitudes towards sport and their perception that it was a key part of education itself.

Most of UM's early faculty were Harvard grads, and there really was an intent to pattern it after Harvard. It is an interesting coincidence (maybe, maybe not) in the sport comparisons.

 

[argh!]

as has been mentioned in a roundabout way, eton college in the uk is the equivalent of a high school-level boarding school in the u.s., not a university. at least as recently as the 90's 'elite' (oxbridge) universities in the uk did not have sporting requirements for undergrads, although there are many opportunities for club sports participation. it is, however, interesting to know that second tier schools like dartmouth and harvard modeled themselves after british high schools. that would of course explain greenie.

signed,

argh!, cantabs

 

[ordigger]

i hate to break it to you um75, but eton college in the uk is the equivalent of a high school-level boarding school in the u.s., not a university. at least as recently as the 90's 'elite' (oxbridge) universities in the uk did not have sporting requirements for undergrads, although there are many opportunities for club sports participation. it is, however, interesting to know that second tier schools like dartmouth and harvard modeled themselves after british high schools. that would of course explain greenie.

signed,

argh!, cantabs

I spent the majority of a year overseas in high school, in one of the British "colonies". I went to an all boy's school that prepared me more for college than Hellgate/Big Sky did.

 

[argh!]

i hate to break it to you um75, but eton college in the uk is the equivalent of a high school-level boarding school in the u.s., not a university. at least as recently as the 90's 'elite' (oxbridge) universities in the uk did not have sporting requirements for undergrads, although there are many opportunities for club sports participation. it is, however, interesting to know that second tier schools like dartmouth and harvard modeled themselves after british high schools. that would of course explain greenie.

signed,

argh!, cantabs

I spent the majority of a year overseas in high school, in one of the British "colonies". I went to an all boy's school that prepared me more for college than Hellgate/Big Sky did.

and there are many such prep schools in the u.s. that would do the same.

 

[UMGriz75]

as has been mentioned in a roundabout way, eton college in the uk is the equivalent of a high school-level boarding school in the u.s., not a university. at least as recently as the 90's 'elite' (oxbridge) universities in the uk did not have sporting requirements for undergrads, although there are many opportunities for club sports participation.

I hope I did not leave you with the impression that I claimed Harvard, et. al. required sports for undergraduates. I said no such thing.

I did attempt to suggest that a "sport culture" was an essential element of British education for their elites and that there were specific reasons for encouraging it.

http://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/study/life/sport.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice try.

 

[UMGriz75]

I spent the majority of a year overseas in high school, in one of the British "colonies". I went to an all boy's school that prepared me more for college than Hellgate/Big Sky did.

and there are many such prep schools in the u.s. that would do the same.

How many did you attend?

 

[argh!]

as has been mentioned in a roundabout way, eton college in the uk is the equivalent of a high school-level boarding school in the u.s., not a university. at least as recently as the 90's 'elite' (oxbridge) universities in the uk did not have sporting requirements for undergrads, although there are many opportunities for club sports participation.

I hope I did not leave you with the impression that I claimed Harvard, et. al. required sports for undergraduates. I said no such thing.

I did attempt to suggest that a "sport culture" was an essential element of British education for their elites and that there were specific reasons for encouraging it.

http://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/study/life/sport.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice try.

first of all, i was making a joke based on multiple posts in the thread. i realize you have a difficult time with anything but melodrama, but hey. also, you did write, regarding an earlier post of yours:
"And I thought it was interesting because there is a significant historical connection between Ivy League schools and the elite British universities they were patterned after with regard to their attitudes towards sport and their perception that it was a key part of education itself."

from this it does appear as if you are confusing the (historical) requirements of eton with those of both harvard and the oxbridge schools also, thanks for the kings link. you did know that at one point king's wouldn't anyone but take an eton student, didn't you?

as for your question about which prep schools i attended, i didn't, of course. i can come up with a long list of prep schools that have track records of preparing students for college
that are better than public high schools, if that is what you want? i wouldn't recommend anyone go to them, though.
.

 

[UMGriz75]

... you did know that at one point king's wouldn't anyone but take an eton student, didn't you?

I have no idea.