It's Cool To Be Excited About New Recruits...

[HookedonGriz]

A 3-3-5 offense? I'm intrigued....tell me more.

You get your star patch today to wear on your shirt for catching my mistake. Nice job

Is this star worth more or less stars since it’s here on Egriz. UpTop claims that players with 3 stars or 4 stars on recruiting sites suddenly change or shift to one star if the recruit signs with an SEC team. So a five star Oregon recruit is only a one star Alabama recruit. He hasn’t explained that one yet, backed it up, or provided evidence of it whatsoever. Nor had he owned up to saying such an idiotic thing.

So I am just trying to figure out what this star is worth here and does it change like UpTop’s sliding scale?

 

[AZGrizFan]

A 3-3-5 offense? I'm intrigued....tell me more.

You get your star patch today to wear on your shirt for catching my mistake. Nice job

So you’re telling me there’s NOT a 3-3-5 offensive scheme?

 

[alabamagrizzly]

You get your star patch today to wear on your shirt for catching my mistake. Nice job

So you’re telling me there’s NOT a 3-3-5 offensive scheme?

I believe this falls under the fake news category.

 

[uptopgriz]

You get your star patch today to wear on your shirt for catching my mistake. Nice job

Is this star worth more or less stars since it’s here on Egriz. UpTop claims that players with 3 stars or 4 stars on recruiting sites suddenly change or shift to one star if the recruit signs with an SEC team. So a five star Oregon recruit is only a one star Alabama recruit. He hasn’t explained that one yet, backed it up, or provided evidence of it whatsoever. Nor had he owned up to saying such an idiotic thing.

So I am just trying to figure out what this star is worth here and does it change like UpTop’s sliding scale?

A players ranking absolutely changes based on where they sign.

 

[Griz66]

I am totally convinced if either Bryce Young or Hooker were eligible to transfer and they ended up with the Griz, that most of you would be Griz fans and Cat tolls would complain about that and think we should have gotten someone better. Now we get a DE from UCLA and he is not good enough because he did not start for UCLA. I personally think we have done great with the transfers and they will help us in the fall. I find it also interesting that current Griz entering the transfer portal have been minimal despite the fact that many of you positive posters said there would be lots entering the portal because they can't stand playing for the current coaches--what happened ? I think critical comments and concerns are fine but the constant bitching and negative posting leads me to believe that you are not real Griz fans and just like to stir things up. My best suggestion is to go over to Bobcat Nation and you can talk about their DC and join so many over there that Bobby has in their heads

 

[RoseyMustGo]

You get your star patch today to wear on your shirt for catching my mistake. Nice job

Is this star worth more or less stars since it’s here on Egriz. UpTop claims that players with 3 stars or 4 stars on recruiting sites suddenly change or shift to one star if the recruit signs with an SEC team. So a five star Oregon recruit is only a one star Alabama recruit. He hasn’t explained that one yet, backed it up, or provided evidence of it whatsoever. Nor had he owned up to saying such an idiotic thing.

So I am just trying to figure out what this star is worth here and does it change like UpTop’s sliding scale?

You must not know much about these recruiting sites. UpTop is 100% correct. I have been a paying member of Rivals for many years. It is a well-know fact by site members that Rivals changes their star rankings as the number of Power 5 offers emerges late in a recruiting cycle. While I have never witnessed a player losing a star rating, I have seen many players move-up their star ratings late in the recruiting cycle because so many Top5 programs are offering a kid. Players routinely go from 3-star to 4-star based on this, and occasionally 4-star players even move-up to a 5-star.

 

[RoseyMustGo]

I am totally convinced if either Bryce Young or Hooker were eligible to transfer and they ended up with the Griz, that most of you would be Griz fans and Cat tolls would complain about that and think we should have gotten someone better. Now we get a DE from UCLA and he is not good enough because he did not start for UCLA. I personally think we have done great with the transfers and they will help us in the fall. I find it also interesting that current Griz entering the transfer portal have been minimal despite the fact that many of you positive posters said there would be lots entering the portal because they can't stand playing for the current coaches--what happened ? I think critical comments and concerns are fine but the constant bitching and negative posting leads me to believe that you are not real Griz fans and just like to stir things up. My best suggestion is to go over to Bobcat Nation and you can talk about their DC and join so many over there that Bobby has in their heads

Typical "if you don't get on board the Bobby Hauck train, go be a Bobcat fan" post. YAWN. We're all Griz fans here, but some of us can actually have an opinion which differs from the Kool-Aid crew which lives-and-breathes everything coming from Bobby's mouth. We also have the ability to watch our team giving-up almost 1000 rushing yards to our two rivals, and the ensuing blow-out embarrassments, and refuse to belong to the wash-rinse-repeat group. Sometimes change is warranted, and is a positive thing.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Is this star worth more or less stars since it’s here on Egriz. UpTop claims that players with 3 stars or 4 stars on recruiting sites suddenly change or shift to one star if the recruit signs with an SEC team. So a five star Oregon recruit is only a one star Alabama recruit. He hasn’t explained that one yet, backed it up, or provided evidence of it whatsoever. Nor had he owned up to saying such an idiotic thing.

So I am just trying to figure out what this star is worth here and does it change like UpTop’s sliding scale?

You must not know much about these recruiting sites. UpTop is 100% correct. I have been a paying member of Rivals for many years. It is a well-know fact by site members that Rivals changes their star rankings as the number of Power 5 offers emerges late in a recruiting cycle. While I have never witnessed a player losing a star rating, I have seen many players move-up their star ratings late in the recruiting cycle because so many Top5 programs are offering a kid. Players routinely go from 3-star to 4-star based on this, and occasionally 4-star players even move-up to a 5-star.

That is 100% correct and obvious and well known literally by everyone. The more offers a kid gets, the higher the star rankings follow especially when they are FBS offers.

That is NOT what UpTop claimed whatsoever. He claimed, and I quote, that a Pac12 recruit at say UCLA who is a 3 or 4 star get, is only a one star for a SEC team. What he claims literally makes no sense. A rival 3 or 4 star doesn’t suddenly become a 1 or 2 star when they sign with a different school. Once rival, 247, scout or anyone else gives them a 3 star….they stay there or increase. They never go backwards and certainly not based on where they sign. That was UpTop’s claim and it’s hot garbage.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You must not know much about these recruiting sites. UpTop is 100% correct. I have been a paying member of Rivals for many years. It is a well-know fact by site members that Rivals changes their star rankings as the number of Power 5 offers emerges late in a recruiting cycle. While I have never witnessed a player losing a star rating, I have seen many players move-up their star ratings late in the recruiting cycle because so many Top5 programs are offering a kid. Players routinely go from 3-star to 4-star based on this, and occasionally 4-star players even move-up to a 5-star.

That is 100% correct and obvious and well known literally by everyone. The more offers a kid gets, the higher the star rankings follow especially when they are FBS offers.

That is NOT what UpTop claimed whatsoever. He claimed, and I quote, that a Pac12 recruit at say UCLA who is a 3 or 4 star get, is only a one star for a SEC team. What he claims literally makes no sense. A rival 3 or 4 star doesn’t suddenly become a 1 or 2 star when they sign with a different school. Once rival, 247, scout or anyone else gives them a 3 star….they stay there or increase. They never go backwards and certainly not based on where they sign. That was UpTop’s claim and it’s hot garbage.

Correct and correct. Rosey can’t read or comprehend.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You must not know much about these recruiting sites. UpTop is 100% correct. I have been a paying member of Rivals for many years. It is a well-know fact by site members that Rivals changes their star rankings as the number of Power 5 offers emerges late in a recruiting cycle. While I have never witnessed a player losing a star rating, I have seen many players move-up their star ratings late in the recruiting cycle because so many Top5 programs are offering a kid. Players routinely go from 3-star to 4-star based on this, and occasionally 4-star players even move-up to a 5-star.

That is 100% correct and obvious and well known literally by everyone. The more offers a kid gets, the higher the star rankings follow especially when they are FBS offers.

That is NOT what UpTop claimed whatsoever. He claimed, and I quote, that a Pac12 recruit at say UCLA who is a 3 or 4 star get, is only a one star for a SEC team. What he claims literally makes no sense. A rival 3 or 4 star doesn’t suddenly become a 1 or 2 star when they sign with a different school. Once rival, 247, scout or anyone else gives them a 3 star….they stay there or increase. They never go backwards and certainly not based on where they sign. That was UpTop’s claim and it’s hot garbage.

I was going to say, it seems like they’re saying perfectly opposite things.

 

[uptopgriz]

You must not know much about these recruiting sites. UpTop is 100% correct. I have been a paying member of Rivals for many years. It is a well-know fact by site members that Rivals changes their star rankings as the number of Power 5 offers emerges late in a recruiting cycle. While I have never witnessed a player losing a star rating, I have seen many players move-up their star ratings late in the recruiting cycle because so many Top5 programs are offering a kid. Players routinely go from 3-star to 4-star based on this, and occasionally 4-star players even move-up to a 5-star.

That is 100% correct and obvious and well known literally by everyone. The more offers a kid gets, the higher the star rankings follow especially when they are FBS offers.

That is NOT what UpTop claimed whatsoever. He claimed, and I quote, that a Pac12 recruit at say UCLA who is a 3 or 4 star get, is only a one star for a SEC team. What he claims literally makes no sense. A rival 3 or 4 star doesn’t suddenly become a 1 or 2 star when they sign with a different school. Once rival, 247, scout or anyone else gives them a 3 star….they stay there or increase. They never go backwards and certainly not based on where they sign. That was UpTop’s claim and it’s hot garbage.

Way to try an switch your argument. That is precisely what I'm saying. All recruiting sites use an algorithm to rate players and individual schools influence the ranking. A player recruited by schools like Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State are given more parts of the algorithm than a player recruited by schools like UCLA or Kentucky. When they sign, the algorithm changes again. When a three star signs with UCLA more than likely the reason they were a three star is because they claimed recruitment from the likes of an Alabama even though they were never recruited. That three star really is one star to Alabama and if they were actually recruited for say Alabama they would be a 4 or 5 star.

 

[HookedonGriz]

That is 100% correct and obvious and well known literally by everyone. The more offers a kid gets, the higher the star rankings follow especially when they are FBS offers.

That is NOT what UpTop claimed whatsoever. He claimed, and I quote, that a Pac12 recruit at say UCLA who is a 3 or 4 star get, is only a one star for a SEC team. What he claims literally makes no sense. A rival 3 or 4 star doesn’t suddenly become a 1 or 2 star when they sign with a different school. Once rival, 247, scout or anyone else gives them a 3 star….they stay there or increase. They never go backwards and certainly not based on where they sign. That was UpTop’s claim and it’s hot garbage.

Way to try an switch your argument. That is precisely what I'm saying. All recruiting sites use an algorithm to rate players and individual schools influence the ranking. A player recruited by schools like Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State are given more parts of the algorithm than a player recruited by schools like UCLA or Kentucky. When they sign, the algorithm changes again. When a three star signs with UCLA more than likely the reason they were a three star is because they claimed recruitment from the likes of an Alabama even though they were never recruited. That three star really is one star to Alabama and if they were actually recruited for say Alabama they would be a 4 or 5 star.

Switch an argument?? WTF are you taking about? You do realize everything you’ve stated on the topic is here an readily available:

After I told you that ucla signed a 5 star, two 4 stars, and ten other 3 star kids……here was your reply:

“Ya right—none of those guys would be a one star for SEC schools. Just facts ”

You are claiming that a 3 star or 4 star who signs at UCLA or another PAC12 school is only a one star at an SEC school. You’ve stuck to that idiotic claim all along now. Pleaese provide any example whatsoever where a Rivals 3 star or 4 star recruit suddenly and magically becomes a one star because they sign with a SEC school. That’s your claim, plain as day….prove it. I’ll wait.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Way to try an switch your argument. That is precisely what I'm saying. All recruiting sites use an algorithm to rate players and individual schools influence the ranking. A player recruited by schools like Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State are given more parts of the algorithm than a player recruited by schools like UCLA or Kentucky. When they sign, the algorithm changes again. When a three star signs with UCLA more than likely the reason they were a three star is because they claimed recruitment from the likes of an Alabama even though they were never recruited. That three star really is one star to Alabama and if they were actually recruited for say Alabama they would be a 4 or 5 star.

Switch an argument?? WTF are you taking about? You do realize everything you’ve stated on the topic is here an readily available:

After I told you that ucla signed a 5 star, two 4 stars, and ten other 3 star kids……here was your reply:

“Ya right—none of those guys would be a one star for SEC schools. Just facts ”

You are claiming that a 3 star or 4 star who signs at UCLA or another PAC12 school is only a one star at an SEC school. You’ve stuck to that idiotic claim all along now. Pleaese provide any example whatsoever where a Rivals 3 star or 4 star recruit suddenly and magically becomes a one star because they sign with a SEC school. That’s your claim, plain as day….prove it. I’ll wait.

"A five star at UCLA wouldn't be a one star in the SEC"

Also

"Signing with a better program gives one more stars."

Also

"I'm unable to wrap my head around why the above two are completely inconsistent."


Damn, this dude is something. And he refused to answer when asked if he was affiliated with Uptop Clothing (unless it was after I put him on ignore). That is confusing to this reasonable consumer.

 

[Paytonlives]

In life I have found

"That the ones that complain the most... know the least

and when they are ignored they fade off into the distant fog of reality"

 

[uptopgriz]

In life I have found

"That the ones that complain the most... know the least

and when they are ignored they fade off into the distant fog of reality"

Man, is Trump proving you wrong or what!

 

[HookedonGriz]

Rosie/UpTop/Indian Coyote/Growler….where do you rank the current Griz recruiting class now?

and before you answer, please keep in mind you said Idaho had the best class in the entire conference because of their three 3 star kids (out of 23 signees). The Griz are up to 7 of those now (out of 18). Can’t wait to see how you spin this one. you want to talk football let’s talk football. Based on why you said Idaho was the best you must be absolutely ovet the moon on this Griz class.

 

[uptopgriz]

Rosie/UpTop/Indian Coyote/Growler….where do you rank the current Griz recruiting class now?

and before you answer, please keep in mind you said Idaho had the best class in the entire conference because of their three 3 star kids (out of 23 signees). The Griz are up to 7 of those now (out of 18). Can’t wait to see how you spin this one. you want to talk football let’s talk football. Based on why you said Idaho was the best you must be absolutely ovet the moon on this Griz class.

Sorry man, I think outside of the upper tier power 5 schools, the star system means nothing. I have no idea about Idaho's recruiting class. I also think it's difficult to judge out of state recruits, but there's no question the Cats out recruited the Griz for in-state players.

 

[Bok_Choi]

In life I have found

"That the ones that complain the most... know the least

and when they are ignored they fade off into the distant fog of reality"

Will there be a Payton Book of Prose in the offing? This was pretty deep.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Rosie/UpTop/Indian Coyote/Growler….where do you rank the current Griz recruiting class now?

and before you answer, please keep in mind you said Idaho had the best class in the entire conference because of their three 3 star kids (out of 23 signees). The Griz are up to 7 of those now (out of 18). Can’t wait to see how you spin this one. you want to talk football let’s talk football. Based on why you said Idaho was the best you must be absolutely ovet the moon on this Griz class.

Sorry man, I think outside of the upper tier power 5 schools, the star system means nothing. I have no idea about Idaho's recruiting class. I also think it's difficult to judge out of state recruits, but there's no question the Cats out recruited the Griz for in-state players.

What’s your data or support for saying Cats out-recruited Griz. Your opinion means nothing to me. In fact, your opinions are mostly wrong.

 

[uptopgriz]

Sorry man, I think outside of the upper tier power 5 schools, the star system means nothing. I have no idea about Idaho's recruiting class. I also think it's difficult to judge out of state recruits, but there's no question the Cats out recruited the Griz for in-state players.

What’s your data or support for saying Cats out-recruited Griz. Your opinion means nothing to me. In fact, your opinions are mostly wrong.

Cats signed more kids selected all state in Montana than the Griz, including for the third year in a row, the Gatorade player of the year. How about those for facts.