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It Doesn't Have to Take 4-5 Years

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twentythreeOh4 said:
kemajic said:
Scott Frost at UCF, from winless to unbeaten in two years. A guy with no head coaching experience.

Getting a 7-4 team back to the top should not be as hard. I'm not buying the claims we will go down before we go back up. There are obvious fixes to most of the problems the previous coach could not see.

This is worthless example that doesn’t prove anything. College football is littered with examples of coaches that seemingly turned around programs in their first year or two only to fail in down the road.

Gene Chizik had Auburn doing great in his 2nd year, (14-0), but by year 4 couldn’t win a game in conference and was fired.

Brady Hoke started hot with the bichigan winning 11 games, but by year 4 had a losing season and fans couldn't wait to get rid of him

Jim Mora looked like a genius when he had back to back 10 win seasons in years 2 and 3, but faded after that was just fired.

So initial success doesn’t mean a coach has turned a program around.

It seems to be more difficult to sustain programs in the modern age. I'm not sure a Bear Bryant, Ara Parseghian, Joe Paterno, etc could do so either in this day and age. The win for me now mentality has really changed the coaching game in college. Various factors, the rise of ESPN and cable television, the huge amounts of money being made, and even Social networking, have all attributed.
 
I agree 110% with CDA. Deep playoff run in year one. Chipper in year two. I'm fired up.

If not, we can go back out on the market.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
signedbewildered said:
I smell bacon. Bacon, mmmmyum.

Dude, I love bacon so much. I bought like $30 worth of pork bellies at Costco (always Costco) today to run through the slicer. Gonna be a great holiday season.

When I was in Oklahoma working, they had this bacon they called Arkie Bacon - big thick slabs of bacon, sort of hybrid with ham. Awesome stuff.....damn I miss that stuff.
 
griz5700 said:
ordigger said:
griz5700 said:
ordigger said:
Hint, I'm 14,000 miles west and south of you.

I’d rather us not go this route. but you chose this fight and even brought my family into it... so here we go.

I don’t want problems, but you crossed some lines. You always have the option to man up and call me.

Until then, 14,000 miles away is a good place to be.

much love.

I crossed some lines? lmao Dude YOU are the one that called out Reese....you are the embarrassment. You can wait until the cows come home - I don't talk to people like you, you're not worth my time. Threats get you nowhere, people like you are a dime a dozen. You don't think your actions and your comments embarrassed those close to you? Own up to it, and move on. You're in your 20s and you act like you are 13 years old. Grow up! Life is difficult. Move on from your mistakes.

You are so crazy. That is evident to anyone viewing this thread.

You came after me tonight for no reason other than myself posting records of prior coaches. That is crazy.

I DONT KNOW YOU and have every right to feel threatened and creeped out when you make personal comments about myself and my family.

If people like me aren’t worth your time, you sure don’t act like it.

Nice....is that why you posted a bounty on me tonight on Maroonblood in their 37 club? As I said earlier, at the beginning of this thread.....let it go, and move on. Stitt is gone, and bashing his recruits, over and over again is ridiculous.
 
ordigger said:
twentythreeOh4 said:
kemajic said:
Scott Frost at UCF, from winless to unbeaten in two years. A guy with no head coaching experience.

Getting a 7-4 team back to the top should not be as hard. I'm not buying the claims we will go down before we go back up. There are obvious fixes to most of the problems the previous coach could not see.

This is worthless example that doesn’t prove anything. College football is littered with examples of coaches that seemingly turned around programs in their first year or two only to fail in down the road.

Gene Chizik had Auburn doing great in his 2nd year, (14-0), but by year 4 couldn’t win a game in conference and was fired.

Brady Hoke started hot with the bichigan winning 11 games, but by year 4 had a losing season and fans couldn't wait to get rid of him

Jim Mora looked like a genius when he had back to back 10 win seasons in years 2 and 3, but faded after that was just fired.

So initial success doesn’t mean a coach has turned a program around.

It seems to be more difficult to sustain programs in the modern age. I'm not sure a Bear Bryant, Ara Parseghian, Joe Paterno, etc could do so either in this day and age. The win for me now mentality has really changed the coaching game in college. Various factors, the rise of ESPN and cable television, the huge amounts of money being made, and even Social networking, have all attributed.

How many dominate programs are there at this level? Tough to compare Alabama, Penn State, USC, Ohio State, Miami etc...to NDSU, JMU, Montana.

* Above: how to act like an adult *
 
ordigger said:
griz5700 said:
ordigger said:
griz5700 said:
I’d rather us not go this route. but you chose this fight and even brought my family into it... so here we go.

I don’t want problems, but you crossed some lines. You always have the option to man up and call me.

Until then, 14,000 miles away is a good place to be.

much love.

I crossed some lines? lmao Dude YOU are the one that called out Reese....you are the embarrassment. You can wait until the cows come home - I don't talk to people like you, you're not worth my time. Threats get you nowhere, people like you are a dime a dozen. You don't think your actions and your comments embarrassed those close to you? Own up to it, and move on. You're in your 20s and you act like you are 13 years old. Grow up! Life is difficult. Move on from your mistakes.

You are so crazy. That is evident to anyone viewing this thread.

You came after me tonight for no reason other than myself posting records of prior coaches. That is crazy.

I DONT KNOW YOU and have every right to feel threatened and creeped out when you make personal comments about myself and my family.

If people like me aren’t worth your time, you sure don’t act like it.

Nice....is that why you posted a bounty on me tonight on Maroonblood in their 37 club? As I said earlier, at the beginning of this thread.....let it go, and move on. Stitt is gone, and bashing his recruits, over and over again is ridiculous.

Why don’t you elaborate on my family or how I ran my mouth in high school?

Of course I want to know who you are.

You picked this fight. So here we are.

Just man up and call me. I am definitely worth your time - that is evident to everyone.

 
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