It’s the mistakes again

[mthoopsfan]

Where was our coaching staff when Petrino recruited those linemen? I thought they looked really good.

Idaho ran 44 times for 52 yards. 1.2 per carry. The ida qb was sacked twice. Griz had 13 TFLs.

The Griz had more per carry, 1.9, johnson sacked only once, and gave up fewer TFLs. Either 6 or 7.

Why is the Idaho o-line good and the Griz o- line bad?

 

[SoldierGriz]

Idaho had over 42 min TOP.

What did Bobby say about the Griz OLine at practice this week? Are they still good....or maybe real good. Close to NDSU.....SDSU...Idaho.....Sac State.....MSU??

Idaho o-line was good enough today...and not even close to the best o-lines in the BSC or the FCS. Griz could use all 5 of them...

 

[SoldierGriz]

Where was our coaching staff when Petrino recruited those linemen? I thought they looked really good.

Idaho ran 44 times for 52 yards. 1.2 per carry. The ida qb was sacked twice. Griz had 13 TFLs.

The Griz had more per carry, maybe 1.9, johnson sacked only once, and gave up fewer TFLs.

Why is the Idaho o-line good and the Griz o- line bad?

Because the Griz D is elite...championship caliber.

All 5 Idaho o-linemen would start immediately for the Griz.

 

[mthoopsfan]

What did Bobby say about the Griz OLine at practice this week? Are they still good....or maybe real good. Close to NDSU.....SDSU...Idaho.....Sac State.....MSU??

Idaho o-line was good enough today...and not even close to the best o-lines in the BSC or the FCS. Griz could use all 5 of them...

The Griz o-line is better and had better stats today than the Idaho o-line.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Idaho o-line was good enough today...and not even close to the best o-lines in the BSC or the FCS. Griz could use all 5 of them...

The Griz o-line is better and had better stats today than the Idaho o-line.

No, just no.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The Griz o-line is better and had better stats today than the Idaho o-line.

No, just no.

The Griz flushed their qb about 10 times. Look at the stats. He had 11 rushes.

 

[SoldierGriz]

No, just no.

The Griz flushed their qb about 10 times. Look at the stats. He had 11 rushes.

Yep..Griz D is elite. Has nothing to do with the Griz O-line...

 

[Zirg]

3 missed passes to open receivers.

Drop by punter.

Only 1 penalty but a very bad one.

Total goof up by defenders on TD pass. That was truly awful.

I will leave it to the experts to discuss play-calling.

Need to start with good td drive.

The Punter mis-cue was really nothing, and a Safety was the best option. If he panics and punts it 5 yards, that would have been worse. Johnson's fumbles and poor passes and poor play was the story,IMO. He looked like Crap!

 

[mthoopsfan]

Idaho ran 44 times for 52 yards. 1.2 per carry. The ida qb was sacked twice. Griz had 13 TFLs.

The Griz had more per carry, maybe 1.9, johnson sacked only once, and gave up fewer TFLs.

Why is the Idaho o-line good and the Griz o- line bad?

Because the Griz D is elite...championship caliber.

All 5 Idaho o-linemen would start immediately for the Griz.

No, all 5 Idaho o-lineman would not start for the Griz.

Idaho has a good defenses too.

A big difference in the game was their qb completed 2 long passes under pressure and threw one pick. UM threw 2 picks and missed too many open receivers.

Any O-line that gets their runners 1.2 per carry in 44 runs didn’t have a good day.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Because the Griz D is elite...championship caliber.

All 5 Idaho o-linemen would start immediately for the Griz.

No, all 5 Idaho o-lineman would not start for the Griz.

Idaho has a good defenses too.

A big difference in the game was their qb completed 2 long passes under pressure and threw one pick. UM threw 2 picks and missed too many open receivers.

Any O-line that gets their runners 1.2 per carry in 44 runs didn’t have a good day.

Compared to the 34 yards the Griz produced. Griz D is elite. Idaho D is not...

Swap all 5 o-linemen and the Griz have a chance to win 9 games...as is 7 is the ceiling.

 

[RobGriz]

Because the Griz D is elite...championship caliber.

All 5 Idaho o-linemen would start immediately for the Griz.

No, all 5 Idaho o-lineman would not start for the Griz.

Idaho has a good defenses too.

A big difference in the game was their qb completed 2 long passes under pressure and threw one pick. UM threw 2 picks and missed too many open receivers.

Any O-line that gets their runners 1.2 per carry in 44 runs didn’t have a good day.

Our receivers had some bad drops on top of it all

 

[brewskis]

Where was our coaching staff when Petrino recruited those linemen? I thought they looked really good.

Idaho ran 44 times for 52 yards. 1.2 per carry. The ida qb was sacked twice. Griz had 13 TFLs.

The Griz had more per carry, 1.9, johnson sacked only once, and gave up fewer TFLs. Either 6 or 7.

Why is the Idaho o-line good and the Griz o- line bad?

Just the eye test old top! I tend to side with the “stats” are for losers philosophy.

They seemed to absorb our exotic blitz packages really well, as I mentioned only a few got home. Their QB had time, and when he was rushed he had clear and easy routes to safety.

One stat that does point to their success was TOP as well….

 

[Mousegriz]

Mistakes and refs........that's what O Line defenders and guys who link to San Diego State fan forums while bragging about our 28 year old 3 college qb usually point to when their "guys" lose games.

 

[Hoops watcher]

And the Griz were very overrated......

You could be right but that is just not the same team that we saw the first four games. I honestly think South Dakota and Indiana State are good teams. Just need to match that intensity from earlier in the season.

I'm in your camp for the most part. Just saw no sharpness or sense of urgency in the first half and the inability of the O to get difference makers like Bergen, X and Flowers the rock where they will make plays is frustrating to watch. Still think the D is good (despite the obvious weakness) but you can't expect them to perform miracles when the other guy has a 42-18 TOP advantage and you turn it over in your end. Certainly not giving up on them but they best tighten everything up. One L is not the end of the year.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Idaho ran 44 times for 52 yards. 1.2 per carry. The ida qb was sacked twice. Griz had 13 TFLs.

The Griz had more per carry, 1.9, johnson sacked only once, and gave up fewer TFLs. Either 6 or 7.

Why is the Idaho o-line good and the Griz o- line bad?

Just the eye test old top! I tend to side with the “stats” are for losers philosophy.

They seemed to absorb our exotic blitz packages really well, as I mentioned only a few got home. Their QB had time, and when he was rushed he had clear and easy routes to safety.

One stat that does point to their success was TOP as well….

Idaho’s entire game plan is shorten the game. Their game scheme RARELY stops the clock. They complete 70% of their passes (clock keeps running) and obviously on running plays the clock keeps running. When your QB completes <50% of his passes and you only run the ball 10 times, you aren’t going to have much in the way of TOP. It’s a meaningless stat. Better to look at # of plays run (which was 72/56, not a huge difference).

 

[mthoopsfan]

Just the eye test old top! I tend to side with the “stats” are for losers philosophy.

They seemed to absorb our exotic blitz packages really well, as I mentioned only a few got home. Their QB had time, and when he was rushed he had clear and easy routes to safety.

One stat that does point to their success was TOP as well….

Idaho’s entire game plan is shorten the game. Their game scheme RARELY stops the clock. They complete 70% of their passes (clock keeps running) and obviously on running plays the clock keeps running. When your QB completes <50% of his passes and you only run the ball 10 times, you aren’t going to have much in the way of TOP. It’s a meaningless stat. Better to look at # of plays run (which was 72/56, not a huge difference).

56 is an incredibly small number of plays, and 72-56 is a large difference.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Idaho’s entire game plan is shorten the game. Their game scheme RARELY stops the clock. They complete 70% of their passes (clock keeps running) and obviously on running plays the clock keeps running. When your QB completes <50% of his passes and you only run the ball 10 times, you aren’t going to have much in the way of TOP. It’s a meaningless stat. Better to look at # of plays run (which was 72/56, not a huge difference).

56 is an incredibly small number of plays, and 72-56 is a large difference.

Agreed that 56 is a small #, but 72 isn’t a huge number. It’s not like the defense was “gassed”. There’s LOTS of standing around letting the play clock run down. They’re one of the few teams that doesn’t run a fast-paced offense.

And when your team has “drives” of 3, 3, 4, 5, 4, 5, 3, 6, 4 and 1 play, you’re not going to get many plays under your belt.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Bobby said UM made way too many mistakes. He thought the team played fundamentally sound, but will have to look at the tape.

Didn't convert enough 3d downs. Not converting on 3d down ends a Griz drive, but also allows Idaho to sit on the ball and run the clock. Can't give Idaho an extra possession on an onside kick.

Allowed Idaho to convert too many third downs. Idaho had too high of a completion percentage. Idaho made plays and UM didn't.

Didn't catch ball, lost the TO battle.

Idaho played well. Idaho didn't really do anything UM didn't expect.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Bobby said UM made way too many mistakes. He thought the team played fundamentally sound, but will have to look at the tape.

Didn't convert enough 3d downs. Not converting on 3d down ends a Griz drive, but also allows Idaho to sit on the ball and run the clock. Can't give Idaho an extra possession on an onside kick.

Allowed Idaho to convert too many third downs. Idaho had too high of a completion percentage.

Didn't catch ball, lost the TO battle.

Idaho played well. Idaho didn't really do anything UM didn't expect.

Seems like our WR’s and Qb are getting worse as the season progresses….more dropped passes and overthrows of open receivers (or reeeeaaally bad misses) than we saw in the first 3-4 games.

And I can’t remember the last season where there were two safeties, let alone two in successive games. :shock:

 

[mthoopsfan]

Bobby said UM made way too many mistakes. He thought the team played fundamentally sound, but will have to look at the tape.

Didn't convert enough 3d downs. Not converting on 3d down ends a Griz drive, but also allows Idaho to sit on the ball and run the clock. Can't give Idaho an extra possession on an onside kick.

Allowed Idaho to convert too many third downs. Idaho had too high of a completion percentage.

Didn't catch ball, lost the TO battle.

Idaho played well. Idaho didn't really do anything UM didn't expect.

Seems like our WR’s and Qb are getting worse as the season progresses….more dropped passes and overthrows of open receivers (or reeeeaaally bad misses) than we saw in the first 3-4 games.

And I can’t remember the last season where there were two safeties, let alone two in successive games. :shock:

I agree. Also, I have never had the same feeling about the receiver group as many Griz fans.