Is that the most dominating win since....

[argh!]

again, impressive win, but they were playing without their wr#1 and #2, one of best backs in the league not at full strength, and a couple top cornerbacks (who cover wr's, by the way). also, wasn't toure deemed the best wr in the big sky by this board right after the game? nobody matches the griz for wr depth. sneed sure didn't look hobbled to me, but did play it a little safer than usual. villanueva sprinted off after the injury and came right back in. mamula is good, but no olsen or lewis. had all our cbs.

you sure switch between logic and mindless fanaticism a lot, depending on the day..

And you sure look for reasons to piss in peoples’ wheaties.

Injuries happen. Part of the game. Neither team was at full strength—that’s what happens 10 games into a season. And yet, we kicked their asses. Delivered a butt whooping to a team that hadn’t lost an FCS game in 13 months. And it wasn’t even close.

In fact, dare I say it was “dominating”?

just being realistic and calling it an impressive win, even very impressive, but not one of the most dominating since 2011. it is a message board. not everyone has to share your opinion, and you don't get to decide how people respond to your posts. neither do i. that's the way it works. quit being a baby.

Name three more dominating wins over a top 5 team since 2011.

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

original post didn't say anything about the rank of the team being 'dominated'. my view is that to be a truly dominating win, the other side should be at relatively similar strength, and playing at least competently, for instance not having multiple absurd mistakes by a long-snapper that result in stalled scoring drives, not to mention 30 yards or shorter touchdown 'drives', giving um more than 1/3rd of it's points.

 

[AZGrizFan]

And you sure look for reasons to piss in peoples’ wheaties.

Injuries happen. Part of the game. Neither team was at full strength—that’s what happens 10 games into a season. And yet, we kicked their asses. Delivered a butt whooping to a team that hadn’t lost an FCS game in 13 months. And it wasn’t even close.

In fact, dare I say it was “dominating”?

just being realistic and calling it an impressive win, even very impressive, but not one of the most dominating since 2011. it is a message board. not everyone has to share your opinion, and you don't get to decide how people respond to your posts. neither do i. that's the way it works. quit being a baby.

Name three more dominating wins over a top 5 team since 2011.

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

original post didn't say anything about the rank of the team being 'dominated'. my view is that to be a truly dominating win, the other side should be at relatively similar strength, and playing at least competently, for instance not having multiple absurd mistakes by a long-snapper that result in stalled scoring drives, not to mention 30 yards or shorter touchdown 'drives', giving um more than 1/3rd of it's points.

:lol: :lol:

Got it. So you are hanging your hat on beatdowns of cellar dwellers....

 

[goatcreekgriz]

In recent years you could argue whether the Griz had the on-field talent to win but to me there was no way to argue about in-game coaching. It was poor. Predictable play calling, questionable personnel decisions, etc. This year there is none of that. When the Griz lineup, I am mostly pleasantly surprised by the play calls, both offense and defense. Certainly the execution is not always there and the calls aren’t always successful but the coaches have really stepped up their game and giving the players much better chances at success.

EDIT: And that isn’t just a shot at Stitt. There is even significant progress from last year.

I liked Stitt's potential, but he disappointed in the execution. I would say that Stitt did a good job recruiting, but Bobby has done a great job in developing.

Stitt recruited a lot of WRs who turned out to be quality athletes, and are now playing on both sides of the ball. But his skewed recruiting priorities led to the need for a lot of transfers recruited by Hauck who have had a significant impact this year. Stitt’s coaching in the 2015 Weber game was moronic—I have never left the stadium after a game as pissed off as I was that day.

 

[stubbins]

And you sure look for reasons to piss in peoples’ wheaties.

Injuries happen. Part of the game. Neither team was at full strength—that’s what happens 10 games into a season. And yet, we kicked their asses. Delivered a butt whooping to a team that hadn’t lost an FCS game in 13 months. And it wasn’t even close.

In fact, dare I say it was “dominating”?

just being realistic and calling it an impressive win, even very impressive, but not one of the most dominating since 2011. it is a message board. not everyone has to share your opinion, and you don't get to decide how people respond to your posts. neither do i. that's the way it works. quit being a baby.

Name three more dominating wins over a top 5 team since 2011.

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

original post didn't say anything about the rank of the team being 'dominated'. my view is that to be a truly dominating win, the other side should be at relatively similar strength, and playing at least competently, for instance not having multiple absurd mistakes by a long-snapper that result in stalled scoring drives, not to mention 30 yards or shorter touchdown 'drives', giving um more than 1/3rd of it's points.

I'm usually not a over the top Griz apologist, but yesterday was an ass kicking. And next week will be worse.

Scenario for you: Opponent runs for a first down, it gets called back for a holding. Opponent has to punt. Griz score on next possession. Is that luck, or is it part of the game? Griz would've only received the punt because of a mistake.


All teams make mistakes, if a team capitalizes on those, then that's the better team. If weebs red zone defense was all world, like we were led to believe, they should've stopped the Griz. They couldn't. Until 12 minutes left in the game when we ran it up the gut 59 times in a row.

They didn't.

Does anyone give a shit that the Griz fumbled on the one yard line last year, after a blown call by the ref's on a timeout? No. That's the game.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

*Griz win NC*
Some Griz fans: “Yeah, but...”

 

[fencer24]

*Griz win NC*
Some Griz fans: “Yeah, but...”

Griz will never make it to the Super Bowl. Count on it.

 

[argh!]

just being realistic and calling it an impressive win, even very impressive, but not one of the most dominating since 2011. it is a message board. not everyone has to share your opinion, and you don't get to decide how people respond to your posts. neither do i. that's the way it works. quit being a baby.

Name three more dominating wins over a top 5 team since 2011.

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

original post didn't say anything about the rank of the team being 'dominated'. my view is that to be a truly dominating win, the other side should be at relatively similar strength, and playing at least competently, for instance not having multiple absurd mistakes by a long-snapper that result in stalled scoring drives, not to mention 30 yards or shorter touchdown 'drives', giving um more than 1/3rd of it's points.

I'm usually not a over the top Griz apologist, but yesterday was an ass kicking. And next week will be worse.

Scenario for you: Opponent runs for a first down, it gets called back for a holding. Opponent has to punt. Griz score on next possession. Is that luck, or is it part of the game? Griz would've only received the punt because of a mistake.


All teams make mistakes, if a team capitalizes on those, then that's the better team. If weebs red zone defense was all world, like we were led to believe, they should've stopped the Griz. They couldn't. Until 12 minutes left in the game when we ran it up the gut 59 times in a row.

They didn't.

Does anyone give a shit that the Griz fumbled on the one yard line last year, after a blown call by the ref's on a timeout? No. That's the game.

agree, it was an ass kicking. i could go on with some counterpoints, but i'm tired of giving time to what amounts to a small disagreement based on my interpretation of the facts, and what i saw. alternative opinions have no chance on egriz at times like this, after a big win. i do find it ironic that az often has alternative opinions and want them taken seriously, but doesn't extend the courtesy to others.

 

[bgbigdog]

The domination I thought of was just how outstanding the coaching has been every game this season. Yes, they didn’t play well against SacSta, but not because they were out-coached. How long has it been since we’ve been able to say that?

Considering there are 70+ kids new to the program since Bobby returned & given some glaring weaknesses on this team, the coaching & team buy-in has been so outstanding, that youth & inexperience don’t matter. They’re playing lights out - put in that position by the coaching & while Taylor is likely the winner, Bobby (& staff) should be conference coaches of the year & a Robinson finalist for COY. You’ve watched a masterpiece of recruiting & coaching this season.

 

[PlayerRep]

When there have been turnovers, bad snaps, etc., I like to factor those things out to the extent possible. And just look at the basics that weren't affected by those things. To get a clearer view of the opponent and the game.

How did UM do against Weber's run game? Totally shut down the run game. Where was the all-star Weber o-line? Whatever it was for UM, d-line strength, the defensive scheme, great backers, and-or the hard play of the UM players, UM just dominated.

Pass defense. It was pretty good or better, except for the several bonus PI calls, 2 of which were on 4th downs, and the better throwing by the backup qb in 4th quarter, and after UM had substituted. UM was really bringing the heat on D, with lots of blitzes with lots of people.Cam so close to getting to the qb, but didn't quite get there.

How did UM run the ball? Okay, good enough, not great.

How did UM do passing? Pretty well. And the 2 slants to Toure were devastating and beautiful. Wonder what was keeping JLM out of the mix.

ST's. UM's were very good, except for some weaker punts. I think Wilson was being told to keep the ball away from the returner, and that threw him off his game. I think it was his first punt when he got a bit of a rush, which may have affected him. Weber's SP's sucked and filled them early.

How did UM's D respond to Griz turnovers. Very good.

Physical play. Who was more physical? UM clearly was. Both sides of ball. Weber players gave up pretty early in the game. Receivers didn't want to reach for passes over the middle. And how many Weber guys were down on the field? 7 or 8.

It was a great effort, great game plan and great execution.

 

[ilovethecats]

Does anyone give a shit that the Griz fumbled on the one yard line last year, after a blown call by the ref's on a timeout?

:lol:

 

[stubbins]

Name three more dominating wins over a top 5 team since 2011.

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

original post didn't say anything about the rank of the team being 'dominated'. my view is that to be a truly dominating win, the other side should be at relatively similar strength, and playing at least competently, for instance not having multiple absurd mistakes by a long-snapper that result in stalled scoring drives, not to mention 30 yards or shorter touchdown 'drives', giving um more than 1/3rd of it's points.

I'm usually not a over the top Griz apologist, but yesterday was an ass kicking. And next week will be worse.

Scenario for you: Opponent runs for a first down, it gets called back for a holding. Opponent has to punt. Griz score on next possession. Is that luck, or is it part of the game? Griz would've only received the punt because of a mistake.


All teams make mistakes, if a team capitalizes on those, then that's the better team. If weebs red zone defense was all world, like we were led to believe, they should've stopped the Griz. They couldn't. Until 12 minutes left in the game when we ran it up the gut 59 times in a row.

They didn't.

Does anyone give a shit that the Griz fumbled on the one yard line last year, after a blown call by the ref's on a timeout? No. That's the game.

agree, it was an ass kicking. i could go on with some counterpoints, but i'm tired of giving time to what amounts to a small disagreement based on my interpretation of the facts, and what i saw. alternative opinions have no chance on egriz at times like this, after a big win. i do find it ironic that az often has alternative opinions and want them taken seriously, but doesn't extend the courtesy to others.

I agree with that.

I can see why you would question a few things...

 

[AZGrizFan]

Name three more dominating wins over a top 5 team since 2011.

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

original post didn't say anything about the rank of the team being 'dominated'. my view is that to be a truly dominating win, the other side should be at relatively similar strength, and playing at least competently, for instance not having multiple absurd mistakes by a long-snapper that result in stalled scoring drives, not to mention 30 yards or shorter touchdown 'drives', giving um more than 1/3rd of it's points.

I'm usually not a over the top Griz apologist, but yesterday was an ass kicking. And next week will be worse.

Scenario for you: Opponent runs for a first down, it gets called back for a holding. Opponent has to punt. Griz score on next possession. Is that luck, or is it part of the game? Griz would've only received the punt because of a mistake.


All teams make mistakes, if a team capitalizes on those, then that's the better team. If weebs red zone defense was all world, like we were led to believe, they should've stopped the Griz. They couldn't. Until 12 minutes left in the game when we ran it up the gut 59 times in a row.

They didn't.

Does anyone give a shit that the Griz fumbled on the one yard line last year, after a blown call by the ref's on a timeout? No. That's the game.

agree, it was an ass kicking. i could go on with some counterpoints, but i'm tired of giving time to what amounts to a small disagreement based on my interpretation of the facts, and what i saw. alternative opinions have no chance on egriz at times like this, after a big win. i do find it ironic that az often has alternative opinions and want them taken seriously, but doesn't extend the courtesy to others.

I’m fine with alternative opinions. But you’ve given no basis for your opinion. I asked you to name three better beatdowns of highly ranked teams since 2011 and you deflected. In other words, you got nothing.

 

[stubbins]

Does anyone give a shit that the Griz fumbled on the one yard line last year, after a blown call by the ref's on a timeout?

:lol:

Come on!!!!

You knew I was going to throw that in there! :lol:

 

[ordigger]

Good win yes, but most certainly not dominating. 3rd conversions were just 2-10, and the stats were actually in Webers favor in regards to many of them.

Special teams did very well, but without their assists and 2 big plays, this game wouldve been scary close.

Griz are also playing for seeding. A 35-3 win looks better to many than a 35-16 win. If you are an outsider, you see the boxscore and score, and dominating would not be the first thought in their mind because they never saw the game.

There’s only two stats you need to know: At the point Bobby called off the dogs it was 35-3 and Weber had 205 yards of total offense. That was with about 12 minutes to go in the 4th quarter.

Weber rolled up a bunch of meaningless yards/statistics/points after that, but don’t be fooled. It was a first class, grade A ass whoopin’.

Pollsters didn’t watch the game. They will see it as a 35-16 win, which is not dominating. Boxscore also shows it as not being dominating. Griz probably get 3 seed anyway, but 35-3 win, with 205 yards would look much more impressive.

 

[ordigger]

Good win yes, but most certainly not dominating. 3rd conversions were just 2-10, and the stats were actually in Webers favor in regards to many of them.

Special teams did very well, but without their assists and 2 big plays, this game wouldve been scary close.

Griz are also playing for seeding. A 35-3 win looks better to many than a 35-16 win. If you are an outsider, you see the boxscore and score, and dominating would not be the first thought in their mind because they never saw the game.

When the Griz win next week they'll get the #3 seed, #4 at worst. But I have no doubt you'll find something to bitch about.

Hey dumbass, I’m the one that said Grizzlies would win 10-11 games this year ... in the Spring. When you all were bitching about 5-6 wins.

 

[1972]

When there have been turnovers, bad snaps, etc., I like to factor those things out to the extent possible. And just look at the basics that weren't affected by those things. To get a clearer view of the opponent and the game.

How did UM do against Weber's run game? Totally shut down the run game. Where was the all-star Weber o-line? Whatever it was for UM, d-line strength, the defensive scheme, great backers, and-or the hard play of the UM players, UM just dominated.

Pass defense. It was pretty good or better, except for the several bonus PI calls, 2 of which were on 4th downs, and the better throwing by the backup qb in 4th quarter, and after UM had substituted. UM was really bringing the heat on D, with lots of blitzes with lots of people.Cam so close to getting to the qb, but didn't quite get there.

How did UM run the ball? Okay, good enough, not great.

How did UM do passing? Pretty well. And the 2 slants to Toure were devastating and beautiful. Wonder what was keeping JLM out of the mix.

ST's. UM's were very good, except for some weaker punts. I think Wilson was being told to keep the ball away from the returner, and that threw him off his game. I think it was his first punt when he got a bit of a rush, which may have affected him. Weber's SP's sucked and filled them early.

How did UM's D respond to Griz turnovers. Very good.

Physical play. Who was more physical? UM clearly was. Both sides of ball. Weber players gave up pretty early in the game. Receivers didn't want to reach for passes over the middle. And how many Weber guys were down on the field? 7 or 8.

It was a great effort, great game plan and great execution.

Very good post. Everyone seems to forget all of the games this year where the Griz made those kinds of mistakes and responded in big wins.

I thought the Griz D inside the red zone was awesome on Saturday, just totally shut them out. D was playing lights out, lots of fun to watch.