Is an Injured Bear the Most Dangerous?

[LakGriz]

scat says...

"I think history is on my side."

What history shows:

cats 1-4 over last five years with ash.

If history wasn't on his side, I guess they'd be 0-5.

 

[kemajic]

Your right. Can't wait for the griz to kick cat ass! :thumb:

You will likely be waiting several years.

If history is any indication and I think it is, then it is not very likely. Nice try though to make yourself feel better... :lol:

Actually I think history is on my side :roll:

You don't have to go back very far. The way MSU was pushed around on both sides of the line of scrimmage by UM and SHS last year was a joke. Boys against men. Hard to bridge a gap like that in a year. NDSU the year before. No muscle; they get smash-mouthed when they play anyone that's a contender.

 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Nice vids Gonzo, thanks for sharing.

What ever happened to Armanti Edwards?
I have to say, it was an honor to watch his last college game :mrgreen:

He plays for the Panthers now. If he can't become a primary receiver this year, I'm afraid he'll get cut or traded.

I hope he gets his chance. Quite the story with that guy. Great GPA, graduated early--the day after his last game (in Missoula...) his dad (sad). Not sure how many NC rings he has or Payton awards.

Was he the QB in the Michigan game?

Yes, he sure was

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA_zeMCnlWY[/youtube]

Armanti was a national champion in 06 and 07, a SoCon Champion 06, 07, 08 and 09, a Walter Payton award winner 08 and 09.

 

[MT Jack]

Marlin Perkins taught me that the most dangerous bear is the momma protecting her cubs.

The Griz will be good. Not 11-0 good but still good. A playoff bid is an absolutely reasonable expectation given the team's history of success. But scenarios like two competitive additions (Cal Poly, SUU) to the Big Sky Conference, talented EWU and MSU teams, losing 9 starters on defense, a new coaching staff, offseason tumult, uncertainties re: the starting QB with a month and a half to go and (arguably) four tough games of which three are on the road are unlikely to lead to an undefeated season.

I'm not calling for the Griz's demise. I just don't think it will be the cake walk to stay on top some egriz posters think. The end of August can't get here soon enough.

 

[kemajic]

There are a bunch of Bears down in Greely that have been injured ever since moving up to FCS. Don't recall anyone accusing them of being dangerous. But beware of a Grizzly with a chip on his shoulder.

 

[AZGrizFan]

There are a bunch of Bears down in Greely that have been injured ever since moving up to FCS. Don't recall anyone accusing them of being dangerous. But beware of a Grizzly with a chip on his shoulder.

Those are black bears.

 

[Cats2506]

You will likely be waiting several years.

If history is any indication and I think it is, then it is not very likely. Nice try though to make yourself feel better... :lol:

Actually I think history is on my side :roll:

Then your an idiotic Moron, which wouldn't be anything new for a cat person... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Record: 70-36-5
Points scored 2198-1443

to get a good read on history and what might be expected you should look at the time frame in the modern era where both teams have played at the same level and in the same division. Then identify trends. Like most fizz fans you are enamored by ancient history when the two schools played at different levels and the enrollment differed greatly. If you seriously take the time to analyse the historic record you will see that it does not favor um, but if you would rather live in a world where you sharpen stones into spears that is fine with me. :thumb:

 

[blackfoot griz]

"to get a good read on history and what might be expected you should look at the time frame in the modern era where both teams have played at the same level and in the same division. Then identify trends. Like most fizz fans you are enamored by ancient history when the two schools played at different levels and the enrollment differed greatly. If you seriously take the time to analyse the historic record you will see that it does not favor um, but if you would rather live in a world where you sharpen stones into spears that is fine with me. "


Please elaborate further 2506. Please explain how it favors MSU?
Was the 16 in a row streak in the "modern era"?

 

[gofor2]

Are the last 5 years recent history?

107 2007 Montana 41 Montana State 20 Montana leads 67-35-5
108 2008 Montana 35 Montana State 3 Montana leads 68-35-5
109 2009 Montana 33 Montana State 19 Montana leads 69-35-5
110 2010 Montana State 21 Montana 16 Montana leads 69-36-5
111 2011 Montana 36 Montana State 10 Montana leads 70-36-5

Looks to me like recent history would say another lopsided win for the Griz.

 

[AZGrizFan]

to get a good read on history and what might be expected you should look at the time frame in the modern era where both teams have played at the same level and in the same division. Then identify trends. Like most fizz fans you are enamored by ancient history when the two schools played at different levels and the enrollment differed greatly. If you seriously take the time to analyse the historic record you will see that it does not favor um, but if you would rather live in a world where you sharpen stones into spears that is fine with me. :thumb:

Oh good Lord. the 'scats have won FOUR times since 1986. And they've lost 5 of the last 6 and 6 of the last 8. Unless you're bringing Travis Lulay back to QB for you, there is not a single possible way to spin the utter dominance the Griz have demonstrated in this "rivalry" to put the 'scats in a positive light.

You're just messing with us now, aren't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Raider]

Ohh, Bitch........

you are good.

 

[EastCoastGriz]

to get a good read on history and what might be expected you should look at the time frame in the modern era where both teams have played at the same level and in the same division. Then identify trends. Like most fizz fans you are enamored by ancient history when the two schools played at different levels and the enrollment differed greatly. If you seriously take the time to analyse the historic record you will see that it does not favor um, but if you would rather live in a world where you sharpen stones into spears that is fine with me. :thumb:

Oh good Lord. the 'scats have won FOUR times since 1986. And they've lost 5 of the last 6 and 6 of the last 8. Unless you're bringing Travis Lulay back to QB for you, there is not a single possible way to spin the utter dominance the Griz have demonstrated in this "rivalry" to put the 'scats in a positive light.

You're just messing with us now, aren't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

They are hanging their hat on this.

Copied from kittycat nation.


But then again, past performance is this (decades where MSU and UM have played modern football in the same division):
decade of the:
1960's MSU 7-3
1970's MSU 7-3
1980's UM 6-4
1990's UM 10-0
2000's UM 7-3
2010's even at 1-1

So from a statistical probability standpoint, if history does repeat itself, this decade will be MSU 7-3 -- this is almost a perfect sinusoidal curve -- performance has never been a matter of averaging out 100 years into a static mean, it's always been about variability and the nature self-correcting systems. More power to you if the griz can maintain high winning percentage during a cyclical self-correction (or perhaps a coming external correction forced upon you), but I am skeptical. This will be the decade of the Bobcat.

 

[gofor2]

Being a Cat fan I would expect something like this

 

[Cats2506]

to get a good read on history and what might be expected you should look at the time frame in the modern era where both teams have played at the same level and in the same division. Then identify trends. Like most fizz fans you are enamored by ancient history when the two schools played at different levels and the enrollment differed greatly. If you seriously take the time to analyse the historic record you will see that it does not favor um, but if you would rather live in a world where you sharpen stones into spears that is fine with me. :thumb:

Oh good Lord. the 'scats have won FOUR times since 1986. And they've lost 5 of the last 6 and 6 of the last 8. Unless you're bringing Travis Lulay back to QB for you, there is not a single possible way to spin the utter dominance the Griz have demonstrated in this "rivalry" to put the 'scats in a positive light.

You're just messing with us now, aren't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

They are hanging their hat on this.

Copied from kittycat nation.


But then again, past performance is this (decades where MSU and UM have played modern football in the same division):
decade of the:
1960's MSU 7-3
1970's MSU 7-3
1980's UM 6-4
1990's UM 10-0
2000's UM 7-3
2010's even at 1-1

So from a statistical probability standpoint, if history does repeat itself, this decade will be MSU 7-3 -- this is almost a perfect sinusoidal curve -- performance has never been a matter of averaging out 100 years into a static mean, it's always been about variability and the nature self-correcting systems. More power to you if the griz can maintain high winning percentage during a cyclical self-correction (or perhaps a coming external correction forced upon you), but I am skeptical. This will be the decade of the Bobcat.

that is one part of the analysis, but you also need to look at the trends and the record since 1963 in its totality.

but its the trends that really tilt it in our favor

 

[snap]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

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Oh, and App St.is gonna get rolled by the Griz.

 

[Brock Landers]

If history is any indication and I think it is, then it is not very likely. Nice try though to make yourself feel better... :lol:

Actually I think history is on my side :roll:

Then your an idiotic Moron, which wouldn't be anything new for a cat person... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Record: 70-36-5
Points scored 2198-1443

to get a good read on history and what might be expected you should look at the time frame in the modern era where both teams have played at the same level and in the same division. Then identify trends. Like most fizz fans you are enamored by ancient history when the two schools played at different levels and the enrollment differed greatly. If you seriously take the time to analyse the historic record you will see that it does not favor um, but if you would rather live in a world where you sharpen stones into spears that is fine with me. :thumb:

Proof that people can convince themselves of anything if they need to strongly enough :lol:

 

[Ursa Major]

"So from a statistical probability standpoint, if history does repeat itself, this decade will be MSU 7-3 -- this is almost a perfect sinusoidal curve -- performance has never been a matter of averaging out 100 years into a static mean, it's always been about variability and the nature self-correcting systems. More power to you if the griz can maintain high winning percentage during a cyclical self-correction (or perhaps a coming external correction forced upon you), but I am skeptical. This will be the decade of the Bobcat."

God forbid this delusional individual is designing aircraft that I or the people I love will be traveling on. Talk about blinded by science. Let’s throw in some extraneous variables like coaching, strength of recruiting, tradition, popularity, confidence…

Success begets success. Predicting future football success is NOT a mathematical formula. I will stick with what has been already proven: 76 / 106 = 66%

 

[App90]

Of course, ASU has had it's fair share of off the field problems recently: A little sex scandal of our own (never even saw a court room, but there was a lot of campus strife and negative pub due to a libelous media/social media campaign by a vocal minority), some coach turn over ect. No one in their right mind would throw stones from this glass house.

I'm just trying to get a feel for the confidence of your fan base. No one is ever really confident coming into our venue, at least no one that knows anything about football, and I always expected a program of your caliber to be the exception, but I'm not so sure with all the crap your squad has on their plate this off-season.

Our team is looking pretty good. Thoughts?

Dr. Gonzo....

Do you remember our (ASU's) last loss against a bunch of Maine players that came into Boone and dominated. I dont think any of them stood above 5'06". This is a young ASU football team. ASU's OL is a huge question mark I predict another Twitter outburst soon, the wide reciever corp has been decimated to graduation, (I know all about Price, Washington, Peacock and a few others, but they are not seasoned), ASU has no real running back that has emerged except for maybe Miller if he is used properly and maybe Chisholm will get it together, ASU will miss Tanyi on the defensive side, he was NFL calibre. ASU's secondary is like being at a Mad Hatters tea party, example the Furman debacle vs the Georgia Southern game. ASU's Linebackers are the bright spot, the defensive line will be young but should be solid, but that is as far as it goes. Coach Satterfield coming back will have FCS coaches guessing. JJ can throw the ball but can he read Montana's shifting defenses sets that disquises itself like a cameleon, if ASU's WR's get jammed at the line like against the Maine midgets he wont have time to throw the ball. Then theres a bit of a problem with the FG unit. They seemed to miss when the game was on the line especially in Boone last year. ASU is going to have a very very rough year. Who wins on 9-8-12 who knows, seems to me both teams have gone through alot. I love ASU but with these issues, keep your money in your pocket. ASU has ECU on 9-1-12 as you know in Greenville, if ASU comes out with no injuries then maybe they give UM a battle. But on the positive side ASU has a beautiful stadium, great fans, and a packed house just like Montana, but that doesnt win games. I hate to say it but Kidd Brewer may roll over in his grave this year...
Either way both teams are the cream of the crop in the FCS and I wish all the UM fans safe travels and cant wait to get to Montana for our return game no matter the outcome.