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Is a big RB already on the roster, just not at RB?

GrizMBA92 said:
Great. Drops downs. No immediate impact. Sit a year while they recruit to replace you. Meh

Not sure you understand the transfer rules. One time transfer rule allows immediate eligibility at second institution, with exception of transferring to a FBS school. I think one must sit out one year for Div 1 b-ball and wrestling too.

Van, Jones, and Sanders all come to mind with regards to immediate impact after transfer.
 
Geddes said:
GrizMBA92 said:
Great. Drops downs. No immediate impact. Sit a year while they recruit to replace you. Meh

Not sure you understand the transfer rules. One time transfer rule allows immediate eligibility at second institution, with exception of transferring to a FBS school. I think one must sit out one year for Div 1 b-ball and wrestling too.

Van, Jones, and Sanders all come to mind with regards to immediate impact after transfer.

Wilson
Henderson
Van Ackern

I'm sure there's a few more in the past 3-4 years.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Geddes said:
GrizMBA92 said:
Great. Drops downs. No immediate impact. Sit a year while they recruit to replace you. Meh

Not sure you understand the transfer rules. One time transfer rule allows immediate eligibility at second institution, with exception of transferring to a FBS school. I think one must sit out one year for Div 1 b-ball and wrestling too.

Van, Jones, and Sanders all come to mind with regards to immediate impact after transfer.

Wilson
Henderson
Van Ackern

I'm sure there's a few more in the past 3-4 years.

So, concensus is a shit load of immediate impact via drop down transfer..
 
Not all transfers have impact, just look at the butt load the Cats brought in who really contributed nothing. But the right transfer has great impact, as evidenced by the names mentioned above.

Ochs was another I'd add to that list. Yamen Sanders was a good pick up last year for a much needed spot. It looks like Stitt and the gang are going after very strategic, targeted transfers this year for much needed spots and depth. I think he'll find some studs but a couple may not pan out.
 
HookedonGriz said:
Not all transfers have impact, just look at the butt load the Cats brought in who really contributed nothing. But the right transfer has great impact, as evidenced by the names mentioned above.

Ochs was another I'd add to that list. Yamen Sanders was a good pick up last year for a much needed spot. It looks like Stitt and the gang are going after very strategic, targeted transfers this year for much needed spots and depth. I think he'll find some studs but a couple may not pan out.

Undoubtedly true.
 
Geddes said:
HookedonGriz said:
Not all transfers have impact, just look at the butt load the Cats brought in who really contributed nothing. But the right transfer has great impact, as evidenced by the names mentioned above.

Ochs was another I'd add to that list. Yamen Sanders was a good pick up last year for a much needed spot. It looks like Stitt and the gang are going after very strategic, targeted transfers this year for much needed spots and depth. I think he'll find some studs but a couple may not pan out.

Undoubtedly true.

If they don't work out, then Stitt will fire them after the last game of the year! :lol:
 
Good for Stitt.If we are going to be competitive at the top half of FCS next year, we need several transfers.
 
kemajic said:
HookedonGriz said:
John Santiago from UND, a true Freshman who is listed at 5'9 170lbs, averaged about 130 yards per game and put up close to 1500 yards on the season. I don't think of it as being a certain size but instead a talent. We need a talent. Maybe Calhoun or another will emerge as that guy. Like what ice heard and read of Brody Martinez, too. We need the guys up front to blow up holes for the backs too which seemed to be a problem.

Santiago is very fast with a special burst and "to the house" top end. Seems to have all the other tools as well. Will likely be 195 as a senior.

I agree with both of you.

UM needs better whole openers, and more explosion at the RB position. Look at the guys that are in the National Championship! Their OL's are monsters, and their RB's can FLY. (Fastest guys on their teams)

It's a no-brainer, duh! :D
 
Compare our running backs to these schools:
North Dakota
North Dakota State
Portland State
Montana State
Montana Tech
Well, how do we compare?
 
I would put Nyguen/Calhoun only below the top 3. Newell is an awesome kid, a gutsy, hard-working leader, a guy you want in your foxhole. I love him. But in no way is he more skilled, nor is Brekke, than Nyguen and Calhoun.

Saraceni? Totally can't make that comparison. He goes against Frontier defensive lines, and I cover the Frontier for a living, and this season, the defenses, with the exception of Western, were the worst I have ever seen in nearly 15 years of covering Frontier football. There wasn't one other team in the conference besides Western which had what I would even consider a decent defense this season. It was that bad. Yes, Saraceni is very talented, but how he would he have fared against NDSU's defense? The Griz' defense? UND's run defense? I'm guessing he wouldn't have come close to rushing for 1,600 yards.
 
havgrizfan said:
I would put Nyguen/Calhoun only below the top 3. Newell is an awesome kid, a gutsy, hard-working leader, a guy you want in your foxhole. I love him. But in no way is he more skilled, nor is Brekke, than Nyguen and Calhoun.

Saraceni? Totally can't make that comparison. He goes against Frontier defensive lines, and I cover the Frontier for a living, and this season, the defenses, with the exception of Western, were the worst I have ever seen in nearly 15 years of covering Frontier football. There wasn't one other team in the conference besides Western which had what I would even consider a decent defense this season. It was that bad. Yes, Saraceni is very talented, but how he would he have fared against NDSU's defense? The Griz' defense? UND's run defense? I'm guessing he wouldn't have come close to rushing for 1,600 yards.

Talent wise was FCS recruit out of high school. 1600 yards no, but sure would have liked him in maroon
 
havgrizfan said:
I would put Nyguen/Calhoun only below the top 3. Newell is an awesome kid, a gutsy, hard-working leader, a guy you want in your foxhole. I love him. But in no way is he more skilled, nor is Brekke, than Nyguen and Calhoun.

Saraceni? Totally can't make that comparison. He goes against Frontier defensive lines, and I cover the Frontier for a living, and this season, the defenses, with the exception of Western, were the worst I have ever seen in nearly 15 years of covering Frontier football. There wasn't one other team in the conference besides Western which had what I would even consider a decent defense this season. It was that bad. Yes, Saraceni is very talented, but how he would he have fared against NDSU's defense? The Griz' defense? UND's run defense? I'm guessing he wouldn't have come close to rushing for 1,600 yards.
You overrate Nguyen and we've not seen enough of Calhoun. I would guess that if we had Saraceni we would "have come close to rushing for" more than 6 yards against NDSU. He can fly; he would beat Nguyen by 20 yards in a 100.
 
I don't care how "big" a running back is, as long as they are good. The last consistent "big" running back we had was Lex. I think Calhoun will be the answer. He isn't necessarily "big" but he runs like a big.
 
MissoulaMarinerFan said:
I don't care how "big" a running back is, as long as they are good. The last consistent "big" running back we had was Lex. I think Calhoun will be the answer. He isn't necessarily "big" but he runs like a big.

I agree that size is not necessarily the answer Washington Husky running back Myles Gaskin is 5'9" and 192 lbs. He gets the job done. Eyes, balance, quickness, speed and strength are the key elements for a running back and no matter how much talent he has a big talented offensive line is mandatory for him to be successful. A quick glance back at the lines in front of our talented running backs in prior years will confirm this.
 
Griz1 said:
MissoulaMarinerFan said:
I don't care how "big" a running back is, as long as they are good. The last consistent "big" running back we had was Lex. I think Calhoun will be the answer. He isn't necessarily "big" but he runs like a big.

I agree that size is not necessarily the answer Washington Husky running back Myles Gaskin is 5'9" and 192 lbs. He gets the job done. Eyes, balance, quickness, speed and strength are the key elements for a running back and no matter how much talent he has a big talented offensive line is mandatory for him to be successful. A quick glance back at the lines in front of our talented running backs in prior years will confirm this.
That is exactly who I was thinking of when I wrote what I did. Gaskin has a crazy ability to do "more with less" behind the Oline as well. Calhoun reminds me of him a little bit - not quite the shiftiness or top-end speed, but he has excellent balance - he'll be a good one no matter how "meh" the oline will potentially be.
 
havgrizfan said:
I would put Nyguen/Calhoun only below the top 3. Newell is an awesome kid, a gutsy, hard-working leader, a guy you want in your foxhole. I love him. But in no way is he more skilled, nor is Brekke, than Nyguen and Calhoun.

Saraceni? Totally can't make that comparison. He goes against Frontier defensive lines, and I cover the Frontier for a living, and this season, the defenses, with the exception of Western, were the worst I have ever seen in nearly 15 years of covering Frontier football. There wasn't one other team in the conference besides Western which had what I would even consider a decent defense this season. It was that bad. Yes, Saraceni is very talented, but how he would he have fared against NDSU's defense? The Griz' defense? UND's run defense? I'm guessing he wouldn't have come close to rushing for 1,600 yards.

I think Calhoun is the most skilled and could end up being the best of the 4 mentioned, but Newell was the best player of those 4 last year. I agree that it is very difficult to make the comparison on Saraceni, but he was flat out dominant and is a guy that I think could compete at the BSC level.

I expect Calhoun could become one of our most improved players next year. I like the thought of him improving his pass catching and blocking and becoming more of a 3 down back. Very impressive freshman year. Hopefully, he becomes one of those guys who becomes dominant and becomes a difference making play maker for 3 years (ala Reynolds, Hilliard, Yo)
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
havgrizfan said:
I would put Nyguen/Calhoun only below the top 3. Newell is an awesome kid, a gutsy, hard-working leader, a guy you want in your foxhole. I love him. But in no way is he more skilled, nor is Brekke, than Nyguen and Calhoun.

Saraceni? Totally can't make that comparison. He goes against Frontier defensive lines, and I cover the Frontier for a living, and this season, the defenses, with the exception of Western, were the worst I have ever seen in nearly 15 years of covering Frontier football. There wasn't one other team in the conference besides Western which had what I would even consider a decent defense this season. It was that bad. Yes, Saraceni is very talented, but how he would he have fared against NDSU's defense? The Griz' defense? UND's run defense? I'm guessing he wouldn't have come close to rushing for 1,600 yards.

I think Calhoun is the most skilled and could end up being the best of the 4 mentioned, but Newell was the best player of those 4 last year. I agree that it is very difficult to make the comparison on Saraceni, but he was flat out dominant and is a guy that I think could compete at the BSC level.

I expect Calhoun could become one of our most improved players next year. I like the thought of him improving his pass catching and blocking and becoming more of a 3 down back. Very impressive freshman year. Hopefully, he becomes one of those guys who becomes dominant and becomes a difference making play maker for 3 years (ala Reynolds, Hilliard, Yo)
Newell was the best because his QB was a threat to run.
 
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