Interstate team, I'm worried

[AZGrizFan]

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

According to conference only stats, Griz have played #2, #3, #5 & #6 in terms of run offenses in the BSC. ‘Scats are #1 and CP is #4. When it’s all said and done, the ONLY top 6 team in rushing we won’t have played is CP. We just held a team that averaged 241 to 69.

But I agree with the “unorthodox” comment...

as to the other part your comment, while you held WSU to 69 they were missing their top 2 receivers and their top RB was limited. Why does that matter? WSU runs a typical run offense that is dependent on play action and RPO, when WSU got behind due to 2 longsnapper mistakes and combined with a ineffective pass game due to the above injuries, it changes the whole complexion of their run game. Add in one mistake by their DB and they were behind enough that they need to go pass heavy in the second half, diminishing their run game further.

I think you are trying to compare apples to green beans, but maybe that is just me :thumb:

They got 1.9 per carry. Case closed.

 

[The.Real.2506]

https://static.bigskyconf.com/custompages/football/2019/confonly.htm

https://static.bigskyconf.com/custompages/football/2019/confldrs.htm

According to this, 1, 2 & 3 are the same in Rush Offense using both BSC only and all games

#1 MSU
#2 Cal Poly
#3 EWU

Yes. Weber WAS #2, but not any more.

How far back are we able to go to get our preferred set of statistics.

Just trying to figure out what the rules are this week :thumb:

I’m not going back at all. BEFORE yesterdays game, Weber was top 3. NOW? Not so much...

Ok, I'll let you cherry pick your stats, but I am gonna use the current "real" stats, and reserve the right to cherry pick my own stats in some later thread

:lol: :lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

According to conference only stats, Griz have played #2, #3, #5 & #6 in terms of run offenses in the BSC. ‘Scats are #1 and CP is #4. When it’s all said and done, the ONLY top 6 team in rushing we won’t have played is CP. We just held a team that averaged 241 to 69.

But I agree with the “unorthodox” comment...

as to the other part your comment, while you held WSU to 69 they were missing their top 2 receivers and their top RB was limited. Why does that matter? WSU runs a typical run offense that is dependent on play action and RPO, when WSU got behind due to 2 longsnapper mistakes and combined with a ineffective pass game due to the above injuries, it changes the whole complexion of their run game. Add in one mistake by their DB and they were behind enough that they need to go pass heavy in the second half, diminishing their run game further.

I think you are trying to compare apples to green beans, but maybe that is just me :thumb:

Who were their top two receivers and ashy were they missing them?

the rb Davis had 9 carries.

Weber's longest run was 13 yards.

So, Davis only carrying 9 and 2 receivers out are the reason you think that Weber started the game with drives of: 3-6, 6-17, 10-41, 4 (-7), 5-35, 3-6, 11-47, 1 (-1), 3-7, 4-15, 4-23, 8-31, 3-15. 13 drives for 3 points. 235 yards. 66 plays.

Man, you know less about football than I thought, and I already thought you were lacking.

UM had 3 TD's before UM picked the Weber QB.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Yes. Weber WAS #2, but not any more.

How far back are we able to go to get our preferred set of statistics.

Just trying to figure out what the rules are this week :thumb:

I’m not going back at all. BEFORE yesterdays game, Weber was top 3. NOW? Not so much...

Ok, I'll let you cherry pick your stats, but I am gonna use the current "real" stats, and reserve the right to cherry pick my own stats in some later thread

:lol: :lol:

How, pray tell, is that “cherry picking”? They were top three. We fucking abused them. Now they’re not, and other teams that played lesser competition benefitted (EWU, CP). That’s the way this game works. It’s not like i went back six weeks...

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Here's what to expect next week kiddos.

The Cats will make every effort to make this game an ugly, sloppy slugfest. We will make every effort to take the natural rhythm and style away from you and avoid the lighting flashes of productivity that you guys routinely pull off. The Cats will want the announcers to comment about all the penalties from both teams and eventually say something to the effect of "just let the kids play". Hopefully they'll also comment well into the second half how far below the averages the grizz O is sitting (just like at Davis last night).

This style favors the Cats and gives us the best chance at a win. We will bring the game down to our level and then beat you with experience.

I expect the kitties will struggle to get a first down.

 

[EverettGriz]

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

According to conference only stats, Griz have played #2, #3, #5 & #6 in terms of run offenses in the BSC. ‘Scats are #1 and CP is #4. When it’s all said and done, the ONLY top 6 team in rushing we won’t have played is CP. We just held a team that averaged 241 to 69.

But I agree with the “unorthodox” comment...

as to the other part your comment, while you held WSU to 69 they were missing their top 2 receivers and their top RB was limited. Why does that matter? WSU runs a typical run offense that is dependent on play action and RPO, when WSU got behind due to 2 longsnapper mistakes and combined with a ineffective pass game due to the above injuries, it changes the whole complexion of their run game. Add in one mistake by their DB and they were behind enough that they need to go pass heavy in the second half, diminishing their run game further.

I think you are trying to compare apples to green beans, but maybe that is just me :thumb:

RIght! And if the GRIZ had gotten two blatant PI calls on Oregon late in the first half, and if they hadn't given up a flukey late touchdown in the first half, it would have changed the entire complexion of the game and they would have beat the Ducks!!!


I think you're stretching so far the band is going to spring back and hit you right in the kisser, but maybe that's just me. :thumb:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

According to conference only stats, Griz have played #2, #3, #5 & #6 in terms of run offenses in the BSC. ‘Scats are #1 and CP is #4. When it’s all said and done, the ONLY top 6 team in rushing we won’t have played is CP. We just held a team that averaged 241 to 69.

But I agree with the “unorthodox” comment...

as to the other part your comment, while you held WSU to 69 they were missing their top 2 receivers and their top RB was limited. Why does that matter? WSU runs a typical run offense that is dependent on play action and RPO, when WSU got behind due to 2 longsnapper mistakes and combined with a ineffective pass game due to the above injuries, it changes the whole complexion of their run game. Add in one mistake by their DB and they were behind enough that they need to go pass heavy in the second half, diminishing their run game further.

I think you are trying to compare apples to green beans, but maybe that is just me :thumb:

Bobcat “if only” comments. A tale as old as time. :lol:
I can’t wait to see the new flat-roofed Hall of Early Exits and If Onlys you guys have planned.

 

[Bear Axed]

So.. Weber was without their 3 best Receivers, Running back and Qb?

The sniveling kitten forgot to mention that they ALL started yesterday's game

 

[Bear Axed]

Just trying to figure out what the rules are this week :thumb:

 

[cclarkblues]

I worry about that Rovig guy because he reminds me of that Russian guy that Rocky had to fight in Rocky Whatever.

 

[fencer24]

It's amazing what the Griz do to a team's stats after they play them.

 

[MontanaJack2006]

I worry about that Rovig guy because he reminds me of that Russian guy that Rocky had to fight in Rocky Whatever.

Rocky IV.

Best movie ever made.

 

[cclarkblues]

I worry about that Rovig guy because he reminds me of that Russian guy that Rocky had to fight in Rocky Whatever.

Rocky IV.

Best movie ever made.

:thumb:

 

[twentythreeOh4]

Keep in mind that everybody (and I mean everybody) stacks the box and concentrates on the qb when either Jonsen or Anderson are getting the snap, yet the combined average is over 6 yards per carry. Crazy isn't it.

Also, every time Anderson carries the ball its a 1 in 7 chance that it is a TD.

That is not even taking into account the "decoy" plays that the run from those formations where they hand off or pitch to another ball carrier who usually then has open field for long gains or a TD.

Cats are very one dimensional and should be easy to stop, and yet they are still the top BSC rushing team by 1.8 yards per carry over the #2 Cal Poly.

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

While UM hasn't faced the top two rushing offenses, they have faced 5 of the top 7 (conference only stats). On the other hand MSU has only faced 1 of the top 7 rushing defenses -- Sac St. And all of MSU's conference wins have been against the 5 worst rushing defenses in the conference -- each giving up or 200+ yards a game (UC Davis 201, S. Utah 211, Cal Poly 225, NAU 238, N Colorado 265).

 

[AZGrizFan]

I worry about that Rovig guy because he reminds me of that Russian guy that Rocky had to fight in Rocky Whatever.

Rocky IV.

Best movie ever made.

Right after Red Dawn.
oke:

 

[ilovethecats]

Keep in mind that everybody (and I mean everybody) stacks the box and concentrates on the qb when either Jonsen or Anderson are getting the snap, yet the combined average is over 6 yards per carry. Crazy isn't it.

Also, every time Anderson carries the ball its a 1 in 7 chance that it is a TD.

That is not even taking into account the "decoy" plays that the run from those formations where they hand off or pitch to another ball carrier who usually then has open field for long gains or a TD.

Cats are very one dimensional and should be easy to stop, and yet they are still the top BSC rushing team by 1.8 yards per carry over the #2 Cal Poly.

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

While UM hasn't faced the top two rushing offenses, they have faced 5 of the top 7 (conference only stats). On the other hand MSU has only faced 1 of the top 7 rushing defenses -- Sac St. And all of MSU's conference wins have been against the 5 worst rushing defenses in the conference -- each giving up or 200+ yards a game (UC Davis 201, S. Utah 211, Cal Poly 225, NAU 238, N Colorado 265).

Because they all had to play the Cats....

 

[The.Real.2506]

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

While UM hasn't faced the top two rushing offenses, they have faced 5 of the top 7 (conference only stats). On the other hand MSU has only faced 1 of the top 7 rushing defenses -- Sac St. And all of MSU's conference wins have been against the 5 worst rushing defenses in the conference -- each giving up or 200+ yards a game (UC Davis 201, S. Utah 211, Cal Poly 225, NAU 238, N Colorado 265).

Because they all had to play the Cats....

using the AZ method :thumb:

 

[EverettGriz]

Keep in mind that everybody (and I mean everybody) stacks the box and concentrates on the qb when either Jonsen or Anderson are getting the snap, yet the combined average is over 6 yards per carry. Crazy isn't it.

Also, every time Anderson carries the ball its a 1 in 7 chance that it is a TD.

That is not even taking into account the "decoy" plays that the run from those formations where they hand off or pitch to another ball carrier who usually then has open field for long gains or a TD.

Cats are very one dimensional and should be easy to stop, and yet they are still the top BSC rushing team by 1.8 yards per carry over the #2 Cal Poly.

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

While UM hasn't faced the top two rushing offenses, they have faced 5 of the top 7 (conference only stats). On the other hand MSU has only faced 1 of the top 7 rushing defenses -- Sac St. And all of MSU's conference wins have been against the 5 worst rushing defenses in the conference -- each giving up or 200+ yards a game (UC Davis 201, S. Utah 211, Cal Poly 225, NAU 238, N Colorado 265).

Wow. Great post.

 

[MTGriz87]

Keep in mind that everybody (and I mean everybody) stacks the box and concentrates on the qb when either Jonsen or Anderson are getting the snap, yet the combined average is over 6 yards per carry. Crazy isn't it.

Also, every time Anderson carries the ball its a 1 in 7 chance that it is a TD.

That is not even taking into account the "decoy" plays that the run from those formations where they hand off or pitch to another ball carrier who usually then has open field for long gains or a TD.

Cats are very one dimensional and should be easy to stop, and yet they are still the top BSC rushing team by 1.8 yards per carry over the #2 Cal Poly.

Actually pretty impressive stats for the Cats from a rushing perspective. Quality of opponent may also have something to do with it. That is not a slam. They can’t choose who they play and they play hard. Just an observation.

I agree with you quality of opponents comment, but I think the same can be said of the griz run D, they have not played the top 2 run offense in the league yet.

The advantage MSU has is that their run game is very unorthodox, making it difficult to game plan for. Like the triple option, which teams don't see often a team has to adjust their schemes from the normal to defend them. Unlike the triple option there is no real book written on how to defend it, so each defensive coordinator will develop a game plan based on what he sees on film and develop schemes that he may have never used before.

While UM hasn't faced the top two rushing offenses, they have faced 5 of the top 7 (conference only stats). On the other hand MSU has only faced 1 of the top 7 rushing defenses -- Sac St. And all of MSU's conference wins have been against the 5 worst rushing defenses in the conference -- each giving up or 200+ yards a game (UC Davis 201, S. Utah 211, Cal Poly 225, NAU 238, N Colorado 265).

*Mic drop*

 

[The.Real.2506]

How far back are we able to go to get our preferred set of statistics.

Just trying to figure out what the rules are this week :thumb:

I’m not going back at all. BEFORE yesterdays game, Weber was top 3. NOW? Not so much...

Ok, I'll let you cherry pick your stats, but I am gonna use the current "real" stats, and reserve the right to cherry pick my own stats in some later thread

:lol: :lol:

How, pray tell, is that “cherry picking”? They were top three. We f***[*] abused them. Now they’re not, and other teams that played lesser competition benefitted (EWU, CP). That’s the way this game works. It’s not like i went back six weeks...

So now that the Cats hung 382 rushing yards on um, do you think that just maybe you were cherry picking the stats a little?