If you can't handle losing or adversity....

[bigkid]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
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[northendzonecrazy]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
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[Potomac Griz]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
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I don't think BW is saying that we shouldn't be disagreeing or expressing our concerns.. What I got from his post was that he's saying we shouldn't give up on the Griz because we are having some rough games. In fact, the last paragraph of his post starts out with:

As fans, it's time to rally and support the Griz. I'm not saying to hold back your concerns or criticizm, but don't give up on these guys after this loss.

 

[GrizGuy]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
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Yes, the play should be worthy of GN. Nobody's saying it shouldn't. Nobody's saying, "Let's settle for 7-4." I'm just saying that rather than come on here and whine and say, "Let's run the coach outta town!" that Griz Nation would be better off with the kind of "businesslike" discussion that once populated this board. I realize that was WAY back in 2003, but I see little reason it can't at least be a helluva lot more civil.

 

[argh!]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
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Yes, the play should be worthy of GN. Nobody's saying it shouldn't. Nobody's saying, "Let's settle for 7-4." I'm just saying that rather than come on here and whine and say, "Let's run the coach outta town!" that Griz Nation would be better off with the kind of "businesslike" discussion that once populated this board. I realize that was WAY back in 2003, but I see little reason it can't at least be a helluva lot more civil.

this board was never "businesslike". it was child-like, then the more desperate of us denizens from the book store's site moved over, and it became... it.

 

[GrizGuy]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
:evil: :evil: :evil:

Yes, the play should be worthy of GN. Nobody's saying it shouldn't. Nobody's saying, "Let's settle for 7-4." I'm just saying that rather than come on here and whine and say, "Let's run the coach outta town!" that Griz Nation would be better off with the kind of "businesslike" discussion that once populated this board. I realize that was WAY back in 2003, but I see little reason it can't at least be a helluva lot more civil.

this board was never "businesslike". it was child-like, then the more desperate of us denizens from the book store's site moved over, and it became... it.

Fair enough. I do recall it being a lot more "good-natured" then back in the first two years after I joined. I'm just saying that while I don't disagree that there are reasons to be concerned about the level of play, I think we're all, as UM grads who root for the same team, capable of being more civil to one another. Kind of like you and I are being right now.

 

[cclarkblues]

I'm still pissed off that we have become such a laughable program that we can't even fill Neyland Stadium.

 

[PlayerRep]

UM did try to punch it in. They ran 2 running plays first, for 4 yards in total. We don't know what the play call was on third down, or who the primary receiver was. JJ may have gone to an alternate receiver. I don't think the call had anything to do with whether UM was playing to win or not. Of course, they were playing to win. They weren't just trying to make it a slightly closer game. I don't believe you can or should make the conclusion you're apparently making based on this play, or any one play.

I respect your opinion, but could not disagree more. Trying to punch it in would be equivalent to trying to convert, which they did not attempt. Watch the 3rd down again. Gratton (i believe) was the primary receiver as JJ did not look anyone off. We needed 6 yards to convert but we ran 20 yard routes. I'm okay with taking a shot at the endzone, but it should have been on 1st or 2nd down, for the surprise factor (which even Hermes picked up on) and more importantly leaving 3rd and 4th to convert. Instead, they take the shot on 3rd and then attempt the FG. Clearly the stategy was, if we don't score on 3rd, we'll just kick it. I think in that situ the offense should slow down and be deliberate because with a short field we're not going to tire the D out. I further believe the hurried offense lead to the two rushes without foresight into 3rd and 4th. That whole series should have been better managed, and not winged. Attempting a FG in that situ is "trying to make it a slightly closer game" given the FACT that we could not stop them.

The game came down to that series; it was the most important one. They did not show the attitude of trying to control their own destiny, and imposing their will, which we are all so accustomed to. If the coaches fail to recognize the importance of that series, and need for a TD, we have a bigger problems than crappy special teams and an inexperienced QB.

I'm fine with your views and arguments, altho I don't agree that going for the endzone on 1st or 2nd down was necessarily the time to do it. I think the goal should have been to get a first down. I would have considered this 4 down territory, and my guess is that the coaches also thought that (until it was 4th and 6). After the first 3 downs, I wasn't too excited about this particular play-calling sequence either. Judged as of that time (i.e. after being at 4th and 6), I would have put in Nguyen at the beginning of the sequence. He's more likely to pick up more running yardage, has pretty good hands, and is capable of getting into the endzone after a short pass. We didn't need to a power runner to pick up a few yards. As I've said, I probably would have gone for it on 4th down, but I don't think that decision, at that point of the game, means, as some have indicated, that the coach doesn't have a clue. Also, The coaches could have been thinking an easy FG and onside kick.

By the way, I know Moore catches screen passes, but does he catch the swing passes and outside bubble screens? I can't recall. He's a better pass blocker than the other 2, but I don't think we needed him for pass-blocking at the time.

 

[PlayerRep]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
:evil: :evil: :evil:

Yes, the play should be worthy of GN. Nobody's saying it shouldn't. Nobody's saying, "Let's settle for 7-4." I'm just saying that rather than come on here and whine and say, "Let's run the coach outta town!" that Griz Nation would be better off with the kind of "businesslike" discussion that once populated this board. I realize that was WAY back in 2003, but I see little reason it can't at least be a helluva lot more civil.

this board was never "businesslike". it was child-like, then the more desperate of us denizens from the book store's site moved over, and it became... it.

The board has too many posters like this, who usually just want to snip at others, think they're way wittier than they are, and seldom contribute anything related to football or the program.

 

[Growler1]

The play on the field should be worthy of Griz Nation as well. Since January BW has given analysis of this and analysis of that. Then when someone actually challenges his assessment he asks them to hit the road. Screw that! People look forward to Griz football for months on end and for the team to play what could properly be described as uninspired football will definitely result in some harsh words. People vent in many ways Brint and if the coaching staff can't handle some harsh assessment than find a new line of work. My gosh we are looking like a high school team and some don't think a little pissed off chatter is warranted. WE ARE PLAYING TERRIBLE AND IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE COACHING STAFF PERIOD!!
:evil: :evil: :evil:

Yes, the play should be worthy of GN. Nobody's saying it shouldn't. Nobody's saying, "Let's settle for 7-4." I'm just saying that rather than come on here and whine and say, "Let's run the coach outta town!" that Griz Nation would be better off with the kind of "businesslike" discussion that once populated this board. I realize that was WAY back in 2003, but I see little reason it can't at least be a helluva lot more civil.

this board was never "businesslike". it was child-like, then the more desperate of us denizens from the book store's site moved over, and it became... it.

The board has too many posters like this, who usually just want to snip at others, think they're way wittier than they are, and seldom contribute anything related to football or the program.

We once had a poster named Greenie,
Who labeled "bad fans"as meanies.
He changed his screen
hoping no one would know,
But we all still know he's a weenie.

 

[garizzalies]

I'm fine with your views and arguments, altho I don't agree that going for the endzone on 1st or 2nd down was necessarily the time to do it. I think the goal should have been to get a first down. I would have considered this 4 down territory, and my guess is that the coaches also thought that (until it was 4th and 6). After the first 3 downs, I wasn't too excited about this particular play-calling sequence either. Judged as of that time (i.e. after being at 4th and 6), I would have put in Nguyen at the beginning of the sequence. He's more likely to pick up more running yardage, has pretty good hands, and is capable of getting into the endzone after a short pass. We didn't need to a power runner to pick up a few yards. As I've said, I probably would have gone for it on 4th down, but I don't think that decision, at that point of the game, means, as some have indicated, that the coach doesn't have a clue. Also, The coaches could have been thinking an easy FG and onside kick.

By the way, I know Moore catches screen passes, but does he catch the swing passes and outside bubble screens? I can't recall. He's a better pass blocker than the other 2, but I don't think we needed him for pass-blocking at the time.

I will stop beating this dead horse but i wanted to make one last point on that epic fail of a series. That series epitomized the complaints we're hearing on here (no heart/emotion, 20 yard routes when only 6yards are needed, hurry up and settle for a FG, wrong personnel, not attempting 4th downs while teams like SS and EWU have no problem playing to win regardless of time left in the game, etc). This was the most important drive in the most important game this year. I think the fact that most of griz nation, including the person with the darkest shade of maroon colored glasses, seem to agree that this series was horrible managed, speaks volumes.
p.s. I am actually a pflu believer (it may not sound like it). I love his schemes, staff, and players, but his overall managment should be coming along faster.

 

[PlayerRep]

I'm fine with your views and arguments, altho I don't agree that going for the endzone on 1st or 2nd down was necessarily the time to do it. I think the goal should have been to get a first down. I would have considered this 4 down territory, and my guess is that the coaches also thought that (until it was 4th and 6). After the first 3 downs, I wasn't too excited about this particular play-calling sequence either. Judged as of that time (i.e. after being at 4th and 6), I would have put in Nguyen at the beginning of the sequence. He's more likely to pick up more running yardage, has pretty good hands, and is capable of getting into the endzone after a short pass. We didn't need to a power runner to pick up a few yards. As I've said, I probably would have gone for it on 4th down, but I don't think that decision, at that point of the game, means, as some have indicated, that the coach doesn't have a clue. Also, The coaches could have been thinking an easy FG and onside kick.

By the way, I know Moore catches screen passes, but does he catch the swing passes and outside bubble screens? I can't recall. He's a better pass blocker than the other 2, but I don't think we needed him for pass-blocking at the time.

I will stop beating this dead horse but i wanted to make one last point on that epic fail of a series. That series epitomized the complaints we're hearing on here (no heart/emotion, 20 yard routes when only 6yards are needed, hurry up and settle for a FG, wrong personnel, not attempting 4th downs while teams like SS and EWU have no problem playing to win regardless of time left in the game, etc). This was the most important drive in the most important game this year. I think the fact that most of griz nation, including the person with the darkest shade of maroon colored glasses, seem to agree that this series was horrible managed, speaks volumes.
p.s. I am actually a pflu believer (it may not sound like it). I love his schemes, staff, and players, but his overall managment should be coming along faster.

I don't believe the drive was "horribly managed". I also don't believe it was the "most important drive in the most important game game this year." It wasn't even close to being that. I think EWU was a much more important game, and there have been numerous more important drives. Just for the record that the badly beaten dead horse.

 

[ilovethecats]

my gawd this thread is full of holier-than-thou prima donnas. perhaps it is worth mentioning in here for the millionth time that bobby hauck never played college football, yet he seems to get people to listen to his views on the game.

but probably not.

where have you been? there is no chance anyone on here knows anything about football. and especially no chance if you've never played the game. hell.....many people here who HAVE played the game are still told daily they don't understand the game. i'm starting to to think we might be talking about 2 different kinds of football or something..... :?

 

[AZDoc]

All I care about is that we move forward...and hope that this week's talk is of Sac St beating Bozo St and the Griz thumping UNC by at least 30. :!:

 

[getgrizzy]

I don't believe the drive was "horribly managed". I also don't believe it was the "most important drive in the most important game game this year." It wasn't even close to being that. I think EWU was a much more important game, and there have been numerous more important drives. Just for the record that the badly beaten dead horse.

all conference games are very important. it's most important to beat teams that will help you win the tie-breaker, which are teams you end up tied with. we have this other weird thing with home games. we almost always win at home, so that either makes it more important to keep winning at home or more important to win a few on the road.

we need to go 6-2 in the league. that means win 5 of the last 6. it's most important to win five more conference games. that will get us in the playoffs. if we lose at nau, we'll be running on vapors with wsu coming in and playing at msu.

 

[BWahlberg]

Interesting to re-read this... at the turning point of the regular season for this team, after the Sac loss.

 

[Tokyogriz]

Bye Bye Suck State loss .....

arty:

 

[BWahlberg]

Bye Bye Suck State loss .....

arty:

It still stings the Griz though. Of the 9-2 loss teams our FCS loss is "the worst" where UNI lost to NDSU, GSU lost to App, and MSU lost to UM.

Could come back to haunt the Griz.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Bye Bye Suck State loss .....

arty:

It still stings the Griz though. Of the 9-2 loss teams our FCS loss is "the worst" where UNI lost to NDSU, GSU lost to App, and MSU lost to UM.

Could come back to haunt the Griz.

None of those teams are on a 7-game winning streak though.

 

[montana_jack]

Bump from last year around the same time.

Lots of season to go boys and girls.