Idaho Vandals Scouting Report

[AZGrizFan]

doesn't anyone worry a little about our coaching? with all this player talk, the coaching will be a big part of this game. the play and player calls should also be a determining factor.
let's see if the coaching team can stay up with the vandals attack and play calling. from what i have seen so far, the edge goes to idaho. at least, according to Brent, idaho has a plan of ball possession, our plan is basically, spectualation. we need to do this and we have to do this.
i think is a result of not knowing what the griz are all about, still trying to find out what that is.
heck, we don't know definitively who our qb is for starters.
i would nothing better than watch the griz win, but the elephant in the needs to be addressed as well, becauce a winning team also needs a good coordinated coaching staff that can adjust to the opponents game plan (both ways) during the game. not just look for reasons why we did not win. you know the adage hindsight is 20/20, well there is another you may not of heard of foresight is 30/30. you get the picture.

Lol. “Doesn’t anyone worry a little about our coaching”?

Have you been under a rock since the NAU game???

 

[mthoopsfan]

The Griz coaches are very good.

 

[EverettGriz]

bub fans sure use "we" a lot when talking about the GRIZ. It's weird.

 

[grizfan07]

I know it’s been said a million times already but everything we do needs to be laser accurate. All sides of the ball need to be lights out. And our coaching needs to adapt on the fly. Honestly, throw the 3-3-5 out the damn window. It should be 4 man fronts all day long with an occasional blitz. Contain McCoy and Woods all day long. We should have a spy on McCoy/woods all day too, if they are contained in that sense we have a chance. Corners and safeties are gonna be put in some tough situations and need to step up. Hatten tore is apart last year and will try again this year. All signs point to a rough day for the Griz but Idaho needs to be shown they are not invincible. I think ST and turnovers will be the difference maker. Let them get pissed off and make mistakes. This game has the feelings of an all out slug fest. My score predictions have jumped around a bit. But I think it will be low scoring since I say both teams will wanna make this game a knock down drag out fight. With my final prediction, MT shocks the vandals at home!

Griz 20
Idaho 17

Go Griz!

 

[mthoopsfan]

My view of last year's game. Idaho beat UM, but didn't clobber the Griz. 30-23.

Idaho won big in plays (72 - 56), TOP (42 - 18), passing (292 - 186), and 3d down conversions (8-18 to 4-11, Idaho was 1-1 on 4th down, and UM was 0-1. Total Offense was 344-220. TOP difference was huge. Note only 344 TO for Idaho, in part due to a quick score after a pick and a safety.

UM was up 1 at halftime, and then went down on a FG in the 3d, and then 2 Idaho TD's in the 4th.

Johnson threw 2 bad 4th quarter picks. Idaho scored on 43 yard pass on the first play after the first one.

After a bad snap/play to the UM punter, Idaho got a safety, early in game. No fumbles lost by either team. Neither team had many penalties.

Idaho threw 1 pick, to UM's 2. Idaho was sacked 3 times, UM 1 time. Idaho had 5 punts, UM had 4.

Idaho had only 52 yards rushing, or 1.2 yards per carry, 44 carries. Woods averaged just over 2 yards per carry. UM rushed only 18 times, and had 1.9 average on 18 carries. Johnson had 4 rushes, for 1 yard.

I haven't watched Idaho play this year, nor have I looked closely at the stats. Nevertheless, I think the Griz win by having few TO's, getting more 3d down conversions, keeping the ball longer and getting more plays than last year, containing or shutting down the run, focusing on stopping more of the pass game, and focusing on the 2 good receivers. The Griz and the coaches saw and experienced Idaho's offense last year, know the qb and the receivers, and know how important it is to keep the ball on O and not have 3 and outs. I would expect the D to have a better scheme this year, and the players to be more aware of what they have to do to stop the Idaho pass game and good receivers. I know Idaho is running bigger this year, but I don't worry about the run. I think the Griz can and will put some pressure on the QB, even though I expect him to throw quick passes. Obviously, the Griz have to minimize the mistakes they have often had this year.

Again, I am positive and hopeful. One game at time.

 

[The.Real.2506]

Griz give up an average of 88 yards a game on the ground. 8th in the nation. 3 Ivy schools are above UM, and several Ivies are just below UM. Hopefully, the just returned very good d-lineman can get more plays.

gris give up an average of 263 passing yards per game, 107th in the nation, damn near everybody is above them.

I think the book on you says why run it when you can't defend the pass, thats probably the biggest reason your rush defense looks so good. Ivy's don't play anybody, at least not anybody that runs the ball worth a damn, so there is that too. :thumb:

 

[mthoopsfan]

Griz give up an average of 88 yards a game on the ground. 8th in the nation. 3 Ivy schools are above UM, and several Ivies are just below UM. Hopefully, the just returned very good d-lineman can get more plays.

gris give up an average of 263 passing yards per game, 107th in the nation, damn near everybody is above them.

I think the book on you says why run it when you can't defend the pass, thats probably the biggest reason your rush defense looks so good. Ivy's don't play anybody, at least not anybody that runs the ball worth a damn, so there is that too. :thumb:

Griz are tied for 2d in interceptions and are 39th in pass efficiency defense.

 

[The.Real.2506]

gris give up an average of 263 passing yards per game, 107th in the nation, damn near everybody is above them.

I think the book on you says why run it when you can't defend the pass, thats probably the biggest reason your rush defense looks so good. Ivy's don't play anybody, at least not anybody that runs the ball worth a damn, so there is that too. :thumb:

Griz are tied for 2d in interceptions and are 39th in pass efficiency defense.

7 Int's on the season, all but one came from either Freshman qb's or Utah Tech :lol:
Sounds like an indicator of your weak SOS to me, just like the Ivy's, stats padded with weak opponents.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Griz are tied for 2d in interceptions and are 39th in pass efficiency defense.

7 Int's on the season, all but one came from either Freshman qb's or Utah Tech :lol:
Sounds like an indicator of your weak SOS to me, just like the Ivy's, stats padded with weak opponents.

y'all haven't exactly played murderer's row. you lost to the one good team you've played.

 

[armonte]

Harvard played Holy Cross who was averaging 250 rushing, held them 100 under, oh and beat Cross who was home team by 10.
Holy is ranked 12th.

Griz give up an average of 88 yards a game on the ground. 8th in the nation. 3 Ivy schools are above UM, and several Ivies are just below UM. Hopefully, the just returned very good d-lineman can get more plays.

gris give up an average of 263 passing yards per game, 107th in the nation, damn near everybody is above them.

I think the book on you says why run it when you can't defend the pass, thats probably the biggest reason your rush defense looks so good. Ivy's don't play anybody, at least not anybody that runs the ball worth a damn, so there is that too. :thumb:

 

[The.Real.2506]

7 Int's on the season, all but one came from either Freshman qb's or Utah Tech :lol:
Sounds like an indicator of your weak SOS to me, just like the Ivy's, stats padded with weak opponents.

y'all haven't exactly played murderer's row. you lost to the one good team you've played.

We have 7 Int's also, none against freshman QB's, but I am not putting it out there as some stat that says our defense is great (but I think its pretty damn good for various reasons)

 

[mthoopsfan]

y'all haven't exactly played murderer's row. you lost to the one good team you've played.

We have 7 Int's also, none against freshman QB's, but I am not putting it out there as some stat that says our defense is great (but I think its pretty damn good for various reasons)

Only 7? The Griz have more. Where did I use the stat to say the Griz D is great in this thread. I just provided 2 stats.

 

[retiredpopo]

https://herosports.com/fcs-jason-eck-discusses-montana-matchup-idaho-rise-bzbz/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsZ77KEKSpQ

 

[Missoula223]

I know it’s been said a million times already but everything we do needs to be laser accurate. All sides of the ball need to be lights out. And our coaching needs to adapt on the fly. Honestly, throw the 3-3-5 out the damn window. It should be 4 man fronts all day long with an occasional blitz. Contain McCoy and Woods all day long. We should have a spy on McCoy/woods all day too, if they are contained in that sense we have a chance. Corners and safeties are gonna be put in some tough situations and need to step up. Hatten tore is apart last year and will try again this year. All signs point to a rough day for the Griz but Idaho needs to be shown they are not invincible. I think ST and turnovers will be the difference maker. Let them get pissed off and make mistakes. This game has the feelings of an all out slug fest. My score predictions have jumped around a bit. But I think it will be low scoring since I say both teams will wanna make this game a knock down drag out fight. With my final prediction, MT shocks the vandals at home!

Griz 20
Idaho 17

Go Griz!

Throw out your base defense in 1 week of practice. I’m sure that will work great.

Also spy with another guy, which really means 5 commuted to the front. Leaving your options in the back end to man free, and 3 deep 3 under. And do it for an entire game. Great recipe for success :clap:

 

[mthoopsfan]

I know it’s been said a million times already but everything we do needs to be laser accurate. All sides of the ball need to be lights out. And our coaching needs to adapt on the fly. Honestly, throw the 3-3-5 out the damn window. It should be 4 man fronts all day long with an occasional blitz. Contain McCoy and Woods all day long. We should have a spy on McCoy/woods all day too, if they are contained in that sense we have a chance. Corners and safeties are gonna be put in some tough situations and need to step up. Hatten tore is apart last year and will try again this year. All signs point to a rough day for the Griz but Idaho needs to be shown they are not invincible. I think ST and turnovers will be the difference maker. Let them get pissed off and make mistakes. This game has the feelings of an all out slug fest. My score predictions have jumped around a bit. But I think it will be low scoring since I say both teams will wanna make this game a knock down drag out fight. With my final prediction, MT shocks the vandals at home!

Griz 20
Idaho 17

Go Griz!

Throw out your base defense in 1 week of practice. I’m sure that will work great.

Also spy with another guy, which really means 5 commuted to the front. Leaving your options in the back end to man free, and 3 deep 3 under. And do it for an entire game. Great recipe for success :clap:

Remember that every poster gets a ribbon on egriz.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Throw out your base defense in 1 week of practice. I’m sure that will work great.

Also spy with another guy, which really means 5 commuted to the front. Leaving your options in the back end to man free, and 3 deep 3 under. And do it for an entire game. Great recipe for success :clap:

Remember that every poster gets a ribbon on egriz.

Even I know that’s a shitty idea, and I’ve never even played the game.

 

[indian-outlaw]

If the griz play as good as they did last week they will win this game. UCD is as good of a team as Idaho is. No reason we can't win this game in Moscow.

 

[svvandal]

If the griz play as good as they did last week they will win this game. UCD is as good of a team as Idaho is. No reason we can't win this game in Moscow.

Looking forward to your postgame thoughts! LOL

 

[Fahque]

Great scouting report! I think the keys to winning start with the secondary of our D. If we don't give up the big plays deep, then we should be successful on D. Technically we don't have any sacks in conference play, but our defense is still putting pressure and rushing the QBs to make quick decisions. And our defense as a whole don't give up a lot of YAC. We are probably one of the best tackling defenses in the Big Sky and create turnovers at the right times.
I feel like our offense is getting better each week and more consistent. McDowell is doing a good job at getting our play Akers the ball. The good thing is, the mistakes we've been making can be easily fixed, like protecting the ball better so no fumbles and just being more decisive in throwing the ball. I feel like a lot of McDowell's incomplete passes which are way off comes with his indecisiveness and being uncomfortable with the offense. But each day/week he's getting a better feel and improving which is what we want.
If we can get Junior the ball more as well as Fontes, Keelan and Eli then there's no stopping our O. A lot of the times our offense stalls is because of simple mistakes that they can fix. I have a good feeling and believe our Griz will win 36-35 in a barn burner. Go GRIZ!!!!!!

We say this every week and it never happens, I'm not raising my hopes this week...hope I'm wrong

 

[indian-outlaw]

If the griz play as good as they did last week they will win this game. UCD is as good of a team as Idaho is. No reason we can't win this game in Moscow.

Looking forward to your postgame thoughts! LOL

Sure we'll see how it goes. What did you have to say after last years UCD game?