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I Will Say IT.....

OptimusPrime said:
UND has 3 offensive TDs on the season. I think that about sums it up.

Well the good news is they should double that this week....the bad news is it wont be enough.
 
EverettGriz said:
Ewoo's still a BIG question mark. Yes, their offense is good. But defense wins games. Until Ewoo shows they have the capability to stop anyone (recall that they gave up 35 to a horrible SHSU team who trailed a DII by 40 and scored just once on the DII's first unit), they are still an unknown. The offensive talent is good enough to be a final four team, but there's enough questions that the possibility of going 6-6, 7-5 exists if things go sideways.

Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU
 
EWURanger29 said:
EverettGriz said:
Ewoo's still a BIG question mark. Yes, their offense is good. But defense wins games. Until Ewoo shows they have the capability to stop anyone (recall that they gave up 35 to a horrible SHSU team who trailed a DII by 40 and scored just once on the DII's first unit), they are still an unknown. The offensive talent is good enough to be a final four team, but there's enough questions that the possibility of going 6-6, 7-5 exists if things go sideways.

Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

The tough games are likely to be NAU, MT, and PSU (I can see a possible game like the MSU game). No way EWU loses more than 2, providing there are no further major injuries.
 
mtgrizrule said:
EWURanger29 said:
EverettGriz said:
Ewoo's still a BIG question mark. Yes, their offense is good. But defense wins games. Until Ewoo shows they have the capability to stop anyone (recall that they gave up 35 to a horrible SHSU team who trailed a DII by 40 and scored just once on the DII's first unit), they are still an unknown. The offensive talent is good enough to be a final four team, but there's enough questions that the possibility of going 6-6, 7-5 exists if things go sideways.

Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

The tough games are likely to be NAU, MT, and PSU (I can see a possible game like the MSU game). No way EWU loses more than 2, providing there are no further major injuries.

I should have included PSU in there as well. For whatever reason, despite records, they always seem to play us really though.
 
EWURanger29 said:
EverettGriz said:
Ewoo's still a BIG question mark. Yes, their offense is good. But defense wins games. Until Ewoo shows they have the capability to stop anyone (recall that they gave up 35 to a horrible SHSU team who trailed a DII by 40 and scored just once on the DII's first unit), they are still an unknown. The offensive talent is good enough to be a final four team, but there's enough questions that the possibility of going 6-6, 7-5 exists if things go sideways.

Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

Everyone seems to forget EWU won the chipper 4 years ago and went to back to back semis the last two years, with the same style of play. Maybe a little better D in 2010 but not the offense we have now. 15-1 conference record the last 2 years and 8-2 in the playoffs the last 4 years. Seems to be working just fine. Tough to find a hiccup in the remaining regular season schedule as well. Every game besides the Griz, Eastern will be double digit favs...
 
marceagfan5 said:
EWURanger29 said:
EverettGriz said:
Ewoo's still a BIG question mark. Yes, their offense is good. But defense wins games. Until Ewoo shows they have the capability to stop anyone (recall that they gave up 35 to a horrible SHSU team who trailed a DII by 40 and scored just once on the DII's first unit), they are still an unknown. The offensive talent is good enough to be a final four team, but there's enough questions that the possibility of going 6-6, 7-5 exists if things go sideways.

Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

Everyone seems to forget EWU won the chipper 4 years ago and went to back to back semis the last two years, with the same style of play. Maybe a little better D in 2010 but not the offense we have now. 15-1 conference record the last 2 years and 8-2 in the playoffs the last 4 years. Seems to be working just fine. Tough to find a hiccup in the remaining regular season schedule as well. Every game besides the Griz, Eastern will be double digit favs...

That's the difference between the 2010 eagles and the 2014 eagles... The 2010 team actually had a defense that was good enough to win a championship. This year's defense is not good enough to do that. You can only go through so many shoot outs before you run into a team that has a much better defense. It's still early enough in the season for the eagle defense to improve, but the same result as last year will happen without a good defense.
 
get'em_griz said:
marceagfan5 said:
EWURanger29 said:
EverettGriz said:
Ewoo's still a BIG question mark. Yes, their offense is good. But defense wins games. Until Ewoo shows they have the capability to stop anyone (recall that they gave up 35 to a horrible SHSU team who trailed a DII by 40 and scored just once on the DII's first unit), they are still an unknown. The offensive talent is good enough to be a final four team, but there's enough questions that the possibility of going 6-6, 7-5 exists if things go sideways.

Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

Everyone seems to forget EWU won the chipper 4 years ago and went to back to back semis the last two years, with the same style of play. Maybe a little better D in 2010 but not the offense we have now. 15-1 conference record the last 2 years and 8-2 in the playoffs the last 4 years. Seems to be working just fine. Tough to find a hiccup in the remaining regular season schedule as well. Every game besides the Griz, Eastern will be double digit favs...

That's the difference between the 2010 eagles and the 2014 eagles... The 2010 team actually had a defense that was good enough to win a championship. This year's defense is not good enough to do that. You can only go through so many shoot outs before you run into a team that has a much better defense. It's still early enough in the season for the eagle defense to improve, but the same result as last year will happen without a good defense.

Fair enough...

Maybe we can borrow the Griz D for the rest of the year...
 
MSU is not losing to UND.

EWU is maybe losing 1 game this regular season, that's as soft a conference schedule as you can get, not their fault, it's the hand they've been dealt. UM, NAU, or PSU may be trouble, otherwise it's smooth sailing for EWU.
 
marceagfan5 said:
get'em_griz said:
marceagfan5 said:
EWURanger29 said:
Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

Everyone seems to forget EWU won the chipper 4 years ago and went to back to back semis the last two years, with the same style of play. Maybe a little better D in 2010 but not the offense we have now. 15-1 conference record the last 2 years and 8-2 in the playoffs the last 4 years. Seems to be working just fine. Tough to find a hiccup in the remaining regular season schedule as well. Every game besides the Griz, Eastern will be double digit favs...

That's the difference between the 2010 eagles and the 2014 eagles... The 2010 team actually had a defense that was good enough to win a championship. This year's defense is not good enough to do that. You can only go through so many shoot outs before you run into a team that has a much better defense. It's still early enough in the season for the eagle defense to improve, but the same result as last year will happen without a good defense.

Fair enough...

Maybe we can borrow the Griz D for the rest of the year...

That combination would be effin' lethal. :thumb:
 
Instead of sending multiple teams to the playoffs lets just send "Team Big Sky"

The best O (EWU)
The best D (UM)
The best ST (Not a UM kicker :roll: )

I'm sure we'll win that way!
 
Cujo said:
Instead of sending multiple teams to the playoffs lets just send "Team Big Sky"

The best O (EWU)
The best D (UM)
The best ST (Not a UM kicker :roll: )

I'm sure we'll win that way!

We can build it... We have the technology! :P
 
get'em_griz said:
marceagfan5 said:
EWURanger29 said:
EverettGriz said:
Ewoo's still a BIG question mark. Yes, their offense is good. But defense wins games. Until Ewoo shows they have the capability to stop anyone (recall that they gave up 35 to a horrible SHSU team who trailed a DII by 40 and scored just once on the DII's first unit), they are still an unknown. The offensive talent is good enough to be a final four team, but there's enough questions that the possibility of going 6-6, 7-5 exists if things go sideways.

Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

Everyone seems to forget EWU won the chipper 4 years ago and went to back to back semis the last two years, with the same style of play. Maybe a little better D in 2010 but not the offense we have now. 15-1 conference record the last 2 years and 8-2 in the playoffs the last 4 years. Seems to be working just fine. Tough to find a hiccup in the remaining regular season schedule as well. Every game besides the Griz, Eastern will be double digit favs...

That's the difference between the 2010 eagles and the 2014 eagles... The 2010 team actually had a defense that was good enough to win a championship. This year's defense is not good enough to do that. You can only go through so many shoot outs before you run into a team that has a much better defense. It's still early enough in the season for the eagle defense to improve, but the same result as last year will happen without a good defense.

I will agree with this. Offensively, we're always around the top nationally (Baldwin is an O wizard). The difference between the 2010 team and the 2012 and 2013 (and possibly 2014) teams that couldn't get past the semi's is the defense. In 2010 EWU led the country in take aways; that is the difference in a lot of games. They gave up a lot of yards, but they were able to get key stops, create TO's, or hold opponents to FG's when it counted (See NC game). Until our D can learn how to do something similar, it's difficult to see us advancing past the semi's. Our O is on a different level, but all it takes is for them to have a few bad series, turn the ball over, etc. and we lose the game. We saw that in the MSU game when Adams had a poor first half, and all of a sudden we're behind in the game because we can't stop anything. It is amazing that we won that game having more TO's than MSU, a lower third down %, as well as having a lot more yards in penalties.

The real difference in the game was the 3 4th down conversions MSU tried that EWU was able to stuff, as compares to the 2/2 on 4th down by EWU.
 
EWURanger29 said:
get'em_griz said:
marceagfan5 said:
EWURanger29 said:
Ouch. Anything's possible, but I'd say anything other than 9-3 would be a total failure with our remaining schedule. I don't really see us losing 5 out of 8 against these opponents, and to be honest, running the table is not out of the question, either. Montana and NAU are probably our toughest remaining games. We don't play Sac or CP this season.

@ UC Davis
Idaho State
@ SUU
N. Colorado
@ NAU
N. Dakota
Montana
@ PSU

Everyone seems to forget EWU won the chipper 4 years ago and went to back to back semis the last two years, with the same style of play. Maybe a little better D in 2010 but not the offense we have now. 15-1 conference record the last 2 years and 8-2 in the playoffs the last 4 years. Seems to be working just fine. Tough to find a hiccup in the remaining regular season schedule as well. Every game besides the Griz, Eastern will be double digit favs...

That's the difference between the 2010 eagles and the 2014 eagles... The 2010 team actually had a defense that was good enough to win a championship. This year's defense is not good enough to do that. You can only go through so many shoot outs before you run into a team that has a much better defense. It's still early enough in the season for the eagle defense to improve, but the same result as last year will happen without a good defense.

I will agree with this. Offensively, we're always around the top nationally (Baldwin is an O wizard). The difference between the 2010 team and the 2012 and 2013 (and possibly 2014) teams that couldn't get past the semi's is the defense. In 2010 EWU led the country in take aways; that is the difference in a lot of games. They gave up a lot of yards, but they were able to get keeps stops or hold opponents to FG's when it counted (See NC game). Until our D can learn how to do something similar, it's difficult to see us advancing past the semi's. Our O is on a different level, but all it takes is for them to have a few bad series, turn the ball over, etc. and we lost the game. We say that in the MSU game when Adams had a poor first half, and all of a sudden we're behind in the game because we can't stop anyone. It is amazing that we won that game having more TO's than MSU, a lower third down conversion %, and well over in penalty yards. The real difference in the game was the 3 4th down conversions MSU tried that EWU was able to stuff, as compares to the 2/2 on 4th down by EWU.
The eagles have has sme amazing 4th downs this year. Look at the Washington game
 
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