I expect Hauck to get a renewed long-term contract this winter/spring

[sdk.catfish]

mthoopsfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:57 am
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He already turned down his head coach job at San Diego St., and reaffirmed that he came back to UM to stay at UM.

That affirms my point in another tread that because he wants to stay, and he has no other jobs to go to, there is absolutly no good reason to extend his contract since he has virtually the same winning percentage as Stitt and lost to the Cats 3 out of 4 times this time around. He is in a very poor negotiating position. Better to wait until his body of work next year can be viewed. Hell, he'd probably stay with a series of one year contracts. And just because he came back to stay at UM doesn't mean that UM has to stay with him if were just seeing Stitt 2.0.

 

[mlbowl]

No, they aren't. Most informed Cats know Hauck is a very good coach, and will figure a way to stop the Cats in the future.

This is the most stupid statement ever. BH2.0 does not have a clue how to stop the cats.... BH and "very good coach" should NEVER be in the same sentence!

That said, i hope he gets extended for the next 5 years....

He sure seemed to know how to stop them last year. That said, I hope he gets extended for the next 5 years...

 

[PTGrizzly]

Look, nobody else has to deal with injuries, bad reffing, and dirty plays. And look at how the team is faster than NDSU! Sure, those guys don’t get the ball, but dammit we’re fast. Best coach in the conference for sure.

Who else dealt with their very good no. 1 qb out for games against the top teams in the conference and NDSU? Ask the Griz coaches who was the faster team?

If the roster in year 5 didn’t have a quality backup (and it did not), and the only quality QB who was ready was a transfer, that is solely on the coaching staff for not having a good enough roster. Call it recruiting or development, either way, it flat wasn’t good enough.

It doesn’t matter if the Griz coaches think their roster is faster if they don’t get those guys the ball. Sure as shit weren’t very many explosive plays compared to the top teams.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Who else dealt with their very good no. 1 qb out for games against the top teams in the conference and NDSU? Ask the Griz coaches who was the faster team?

I don’t really care what the coach-speak says. It was painfully obvious NDSU had better athletes, faster, stronger, in every aspect.

 

[Diesel]

Who else dealt with their very good no. 1 qb out for games against the top teams in the conference and NDSU? Ask the Griz coaches who was the faster team?

I don’t really care what the coach-speak says. It was painfully obvious NDSU had better athletes, faster, stronger, in every aspect.

Robby posterized reveals a 5’9” S with weak hands and closed eyes against a 6’4” WR with eyes on ball and strong hands to keep possession of ball. I have to give it to Robby for being in position and unlike HoneyBadger and P21 would make business decisions when Lynch would run towards them they found getting out of camera view was the better option. Unfortunately for Griz a better athlete with solid coaching usually beats the smaller less athletic player who has smarts and heart. Much like Moss, Mossing entire Griz backfield…painful but true.

 

[uofmman1122]

Who else dealt with their very good no. 1 qb out for games against the top teams in the conference and NDSU? Ask the Griz coaches who was the faster team?

I don’t really care what the coach-speak says. It was painfully obvious NDSU had better athletes, faster, stronger, in every aspect.

I thought we were much closer to them (obviously not close enough) than we were when we played them back in 2014/2015. The size/talent difference seemed much greater back then. Maybe it doesn't matter, but I distinctly remember watching, even when it was out of hand, thinking that the size/speed difference wasn't as bad as I remembered it from before.

 

[mthoopsfan]

mthoopsfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:57 am
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He already turned down his head coach job at San Diego St., and reaffirmed that he came back to UM to stay at UM.

That affirms my point in another tread that because he wants to stay, and he has no other jobs to go to, there is absolutly no good reason to extend his contract since he has virtually the same winning percentage as Stitt and lost to the Cats 3 out of 4 times this time around. He is in a very poor negotiating position. Better to wait until his body of work next year can be viewed. Hell, he'd probably stay with a series of one year contracts. And just because he came back to stay at UM doesn't mean that UM has to stay with him if were just seeing Stitt 2.0.

Hauck has big leverage. He is very popular with virtually all of the major donors and boosters. Haslam would be under pressure if he didn’t treat Hauck well. UM needs Hauck for reasons other than football too. If he wanted to leave, he could go to the NFL at ST coach. He could also let it known through his agent that he is ready to move on. You are not close enough to the program to know these things.

 

[indiancoyote]

That affirms my point in another tread that because he wants to stay, and he has no other jobs to go to, there is absolutly no good reason to extend his contract since he has virtually the same winning percentage as Stitt and lost to the Cats 3 out of 4 times this time around. He is in a very poor negotiating position. Better to wait until his body of work next year can be viewed. Hell, he'd probably stay with a series of one year contracts. And just because he came back to stay at UM doesn't mean that UM has to stay with him if were just seeing Stitt 2.0.

Hauck has big leverage. He is very popular with virtually all of the major donors and boosters. Haslam would be under pressure if he didn’t treat Hauck well. UM needs Hauck for reasons other than football too. If he wanted to leave, he could go to the NFL at ST coach. He could also let it known through his agent that he is ready to move on. You are not close enough to the program to know these things.

Lets all hope he moves on.

 

[sdk.catfish]

Hauck has big leverage. He is very popular with virtually all of the major donors and boosters. Haslam would be under pressure if he didn’t treat Hauck well. UM needs Hauck for reasons other than football too. If he wanted to leave, he could go to the NFL at ST coach. He could also let it known through his agent that he is ready to move on. You are not close enough to the program to know these things.

Your opinion may not be accurate. I think you underestimate the impact of an 8-5 record on the big boosters with a absolute thrashing at the hands of MSU and NDSU. Of course everybody on this forum knows you have zero contacts with NFL teams as far as their special team coaches needs are but they might not want one who allows an onside kick to hit one of the return team inthe head and be subsequentially recovered. He could let his agent know he is ready to move on but nobody wants him at this point, unless he wants to move to Western or Carrol. And clearly he doesn't want to move on or there would be some offers now but I don't see any interviews. I know you are obtuse but have you ever thought it may be best for Hauck, and UM, to just proceed with the 2023 season and see where that leaves us. If he has a great season then he does have leverage. If he doesn't then UM doesn't have a long term contract to buy out if he goes 7-4 and ua crushed at home by the Cats. Do you want what is best for UM or for Bobby?

 

[mthoopsfan]

Hauck has big leverage. He is very popular with virtually all of the major donors and boosters. Haslam would be under pressure if he didn’t treat Hauck well. UM needs Hauck for reasons other than football too. If he wanted to leave, he could go to the NFL at ST coach. He could also let it known through his agent that he is ready to move on. You are not close enough to the program to know these things.

Your opinion may not be accurate. I think you underestimate the impact of an 8-5 record on the big boosters with a absolute thrashing at the hands of MSU and NDSU. Of course everybody on this forum knows you have zero contacts with NFL teams as far as their special team coaches needs are but they might not want one who allows an onside kick to hit one of the return team inthe head and be subsequentially recovered. He could let his agent know he is ready to move on but nobody wants him at this point, unless he wants to move to Western or Carrol. And clearly he doesn't want to move on or there would be some offers now but I don't see any interviews. I know you are obtuse but have you ever thought it may be best for Hauck, and UM, to just proceed with the 2023 season and see where that leaves us. If he has a great season then he does have leverage. If he doesn't then UM doesn't have a long term contract to buy out if he goes 7-4 and ua crushed at home by the Cats. Do you want what is best for UM or for Bobby?

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I know most of the top boosters and donors. I know what they think about Bobby. I actually do have some contacts with NFL teams, but I know what I said from Bobby’s good friends. Lots of teams would be interested in Hauck. Keeping Hauck happy is what is best for UM.

 

[indiancoyote]

Hauck has big leverage. He is very popular with virtually all of the major donors and boosters. Haslam would be under pressure if he didn’t treat Hauck well. UM needs Hauck for reasons other than football too. If he wanted to leave, he could go to the NFL at ST coach. He could also let it known through his agent that he is ready to move on. You are not close enough to the program to know these things.

Your opinion may not be accurate. I think you underestimate the impact of an 8-5 record on the big boosters with a absolute thrashing at the hands of MSU and NDSU. Of course everybody on this forum knows you have zero contacts with NFL teams as far as their special team coaches needs are but they might not want one who allows an onside kick to hit one of the return team inthe head and be subsequentially recovered. He could let his agent know he is ready to move on but nobody wants him at this point, unless he wants to move to Western or Carrol. And clearly he doesn't want to move on or there would be some offers now but I don't see any interviews. I know you are obtuse but have you ever thought it may be best for Hauck, and UM, to just proceed with the 2023 season and see where that leaves us. If he has a great season then he does have leverage. If he doesn't then UM doesn't have a long term contract to buy out if he goes 7-4 and ua crushed at home by the Cats. Do you want what is best for UM or for Bobby?

Not a chance at Carroll. Their coach actually won a championship and was rewarded by his peers.

 

[sdk.catfish]

I know most of the top boosters and donors. I know what they think about Bobby. I actually do have some contacts with NFL teams, but I know what I said from Bobby’s good friends. Lots of teams would be interested in Hauck. Keeping Hauck happy is what is best for UM.

My only response is that Bobby should take his own advice that he gives his players. If he isn't happy he should move on. Show us an NFL special teams offer. Is that what Bobby wants since you are already on record as saying he came back to UM to finish his career. Doesn't seem that there any are opportunities at present. If what is best for UM relies on the retention of one person who is a football coach with no current alternative job offers then the university has much bigger problems to deal with.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I know most of the top boosters and donors. I know what they think about Bobby. I actually do have some contacts with NFL teams, but I know what I said from Bobby’s good friends. Lots of teams would be interested in Hauck. Keeping Hauck happy is what is best for UM.

My only response is that Bobby should take his own advice that he gives his players. If he isn't happy he should move on. Show us an NFL special teams offer. Is that what Bobby wants since you are already on record as saying he came back to UM to finish his career. Doesn't seem that there any are opportunities at present. If what is best for UM relies on the retention of one person who is a football coach with no current alternative job offers then the university has much bigger problems to deal with.

You don’t know what you are talking about. Keep spewing your hot air.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

When Troy Taylor accepts the Stanford offer Bobby will move up to being the third or fourth best coach in the conference.

 

[mthoopsfan]

When Troy Taylor accepts the Stanford offer Bobby will move up to being the third or fourth best coach in the conference.

Is Taylor going to finish his SS career with 1 playoff win?

 

[Jesse]

When Troy Taylor accepts the Stanford offer Bobby will move up to being the third or fourth best coach in the conference.

Is Taylor going to finish his SS career with 1 playoff win?

What difference does that make if he gets the Stanford job? Why would he need to win more playoff games to prove himself. You are just silly

 

[mthoopsfan]

Is Taylor going to finish his SS career with 1 playoff win?

What difference does that make if he gets the Stanford job? Why would he need to win more playoff games to prove himself. You are just silly

Some of you are trying to tout Taylor’s great conference record, but he hasn’t won playoff games. That’s my point. I went to Stanford and follow Stanford. Taylor doesn’t excite me for the Stanford coach.

 

[Jesse]

What difference does that make if he gets the Stanford job? Why would he need to win more playoff games to prove himself. You are just silly

Some of you are trying to tout Taylor’s great conference record, but he hasn’t won playoff games. That’s my point. I went to Stanford and follow Stanford. Taylor doesn’t excite me for the Stanford coach.

Yeah sure you did. Lol

 

[uofmman1122]

I think Taylor's resume has been really impressive, but like I said a few weeks ago, if Bobby had won 3 straight conference titles, but then went 1-3 in the playoffs over that span, including 0-fer two years in a row after being a top 4 seed, and bounced in the quarters as the 2-seed, the same people calling for him to be fired now would more than likely be saying the same stuff.

"He can't get it done"
"Still loses in the playoffs"
"Conference titles don't mean anything if you can't win playoff games"

 

[mthoopsfan]

Some of you are trying to tout Taylor’s great conference record, but he hasn’t won playoff games. That’s my point. I went to Stanford and follow Stanford. Taylor doesn’t excite me for the Stanford coach.

Yeah sure you did. Lol

Yeah sure I did what?