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I believe in the Griz offensive line

indian-outlaw said:
sugarcoat it all you want but the chances are good that we are going to have problems up front for a while this year.

I get why you are saying that, but truly I am not sure that is the case. TE’s, a damn FB, mobile QB’s and some creative play calling can keep teams on their toes defensively. A couple of games go by and the o line starts to gel. Minus any major injuries, don’t be surprised to see DOLA by year end. One other thing. Hauck was verbally concerned about the O line given his statements lately. I say hogwash. He would never point to a true weakness for the team. He is a phenomenal poker player and he is bluffing. The o line will not be as bad as everyone expects.
 
I hope this will be the most improved group come November as there is certainly room. Don't get me wrong, I believe in these kids too, they're just gonna need some time and experience. Hauck isn't playing up this weakness. Compared to the rest of the team, it is still the weakness.

Really not a lot of advantage to talking them down. He could do that with any of the other positions.

I still think we win this weekend.
 
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizfankb said:
mtgrizfankb said:
PlayerRep said:
We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

and their so damn confident about playing MSU they only use 4 lineman :thumb:

He is also correct. Starters average 295 and 6 ft 4. 2 RF 1So 1JR 1SR

Montana State Starters average 295 and 6ft 4 too. 1Fr, 2So, 1Jr, 1SR

Here are the Game Notes for WIU and MSU:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/Game_Notes_1.pdf

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/FB_Notes_18_1_WIU.pdf

OFFENSE - WIU

LT 76 Drew Wagner Sr. 6-6 312 Tiffin, Iowa

LG 66 Michael Ross R-Fr. 6-2 320 Lombard, Ill.

C 73 Kyle Sanft R-So. 6-4 286 Bartlett, Ill.

RG 63 Chris Zobrist R-Jr. 6-3 280 Troy, Ill.

RT 75 Austin Hopp R-Fr. 6-5 280 Minnetonka, Minn.

2018 MSU Depth Chart

Offense

LEFT TACKLE
63 Mitch Brott** (like brought) 6-6 290 Jr&

LEFT GUARD
51 Taylor Tuiasosopo* (too-ee-ah-so-SO-PO) 6-3 295 So&

CENTER
70 Alex Neale** 6-3 285 Sr+&

RIGHT GUARD
76 Lewis Kidd* 6-6 305 So&

RIGHT TACKLE
66 Connor Wood 6-4 300 Fr&

I guess Tuiasosopo must have had a severe case of diarrhea to get down to 295, because his listed weight on the official MSU roster is 314 lbs. Here is the link.

https://247sports.com/Team/Montana-State-Bobcats-Football-259/Roster

Thanks for showing us that both the MSU and WIU lines average "only" 295 lbs, which totally supports my point that size is highly overrated for O-linemen. Even though WIU has 8 linemen on their roster weighing over 300 lbs., only two of them were good enough to start, being beaten-out by much smaller guys. Again, fans using the fact that our O-line averages well over 300 lbs. as a reason why we will be good on the O-line is a fallacy. And, Hauck and Germer would agree.

We will have a good O-line when the starters get enough real-game reps to get their execution and pre-snap reads honed, and that only comes with experience. Germer knows it. Bobby knows it. Apparently some Griz fans don't.
 
4theluvofgriz said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizfankb said:
mtgrizfankb said:
and their so damn confident about playing MSU they only use 4 lineman :thumb:

He is also correct. Starters average 295 and 6 ft 4. 2 RF 1So 1JR 1SR

Montana State Starters average 295 and 6ft 4 too. 1Fr, 2So, 1Jr, 1SR

Here are the Game Notes for WIU and MSU:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/Game_Notes_1.pdf

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/FB_Notes_18_1_WIU.pdf

OFFENSE - WIU

LT 76 Drew Wagner Sr. 6-6 312 Tiffin, Iowa

LG 66 Michael Ross R-Fr. 6-2 320 Lombard, Ill.

C 73 Kyle Sanft R-So. 6-4 286 Bartlett, Ill.

RG 63 Chris Zobrist R-Jr. 6-3 280 Troy, Ill.

RT 75 Austin Hopp R-Fr. 6-5 280 Minnetonka, Minn.

2018 MSU Depth Chart

Offense

LEFT TACKLE
63 Mitch Brott** (like brought) 6-6 290 Jr&

LEFT GUARD
51 Taylor Tuiasosopo* (too-ee-ah-so-SO-PO) 6-3 295 So&

CENTER
70 Alex Neale** 6-3 285 Sr+&

RIGHT GUARD
76 Lewis Kidd* 6-6 305 So&

RIGHT TACKLE
66 Connor Wood 6-4 300 Fr&

I guess Tuiasosopo must have had a severe case of diarrhea to get down to 295, because his listed weight on the official MSU roster is 314 lbs. Here is the link.

https://247sports.com/Team/Montana-State-Bobcats-Football-259/Roster

Thanks for showing us that both the MSU and WIU lines average "only" 295 lbs, which totally supports my point that size is highly overrated for O-linemen. Even though WIU has 8 linemen on their roster weighing over 300 lbs., only two of them were good enough to start, being beaten-out by much smaller guys. Again, fans using the fact that our O-line averages well over 300 lbs. as a reason why we will be good on the O-line is a fallacy. And, Hauck and Germer would agree.

We will have a good O-line when the starters get enough real-game reps to get their execution and pre-snap reads honed, and that only comes with experience. Germer knows it. Bobby knows it. Apparently some Griz fans don't.

Sorry, but the depth chart weight in the Game Notes put out by the Cats a few days ago probably trumps the roster done previously. Can you at least admit that "every" Big Sky team doesn't have starters averaging "over 300", now that you've been proven to be wrong. Even if the higher weight for that guy is used, they still don't average over 300 pounds.

Proving once again that you've never gotten a statistic right in your life.

By the way, no one has said the UM o-line will be good because they are big or average over 300. It is one of many reasons.

By the way, I have talked to both Hauck and Germer about the o-line. When I said the o-line was big, athletic, and well-coached, and I thought they would be fine, he said only that they are young and inexperienced. What did Hauck and Germer tell you? Ha.

Also, I find it interesting how many posters seemed not to get my initial joke post. Yes, I do believe in the o-line, and I was doing a rah-rah post since it's game week, but the rest of what I said was intended to be a small spoof mimicking a lot of posts I see on egriz.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Jaredkuehn said:
The previous coaching staff did a good job recruiting young talent on the O-line, but it makes you wonder what the plan was for this year. Just roll with a bunch of young, unproven players? Convert a couple of receivers? Pray to the drop-down gods? It had to be a point of contention for Germer. He's got to be happy about Hauck's commitment to that group.

I hate to be critical, but even as naïve fans, I think a lot of us saw this coming over the past couple years.

I'm glad there are some positive thoughts about the O-line. All my impressions are coming from media reports and Hauck's comments, all of which are pretty negative. I think it would be cool if they became the breakout group of the team. I'm rooting for their success.

FACT: 5+ O-Linemen were signed in each of Stitt’s 3 recruiting classes.
FACT: Some O-Linemen who would have been counted on have hung up their cleats, washed out, or otherwise not panned out.



So, I’m not sure what you “saw coming” over the past few years...unless you had a crystal ball and knew that Jackson would get hurt, Stoner would quit, Torres would leave, etc., etc....Not sure how may schollies you’d have a coach assign to one position group, but 20 is a lot (think: receivers)...

Whoa, did I strike a nerve? The imbalanced roster has been a topic of conversation for a couple years. Its been addressed by Hauck on multiple occasions, not only at OL, but CB, LB, and QB. Its not just bad luck at one position, it appears to be a larger mis-management of the roster. I'm not claiming to have a crystal ball, but its not that hard to look at previous rosters and see some holes. To be fair, some of this may pre-date the Bob Stitt era.

In looking at the past three years rosters, I don't see that there have ever been 20 guys listed at OL, let alone 20 of them on scholarships, so I'm not sure what your comment about 20 being a lot is in reference to.

Here are Stitt's o-line recurits according to gogriz.com. I don't recall any late additions or transfers, but maybe I'm missing the other 4+ O-line recruits?

2015 -
Dallas Hart
Jackson McCullough
Cody Meyer
Angel Villanueva

2016 -
Conlan Beaver
Dylan Eickmeyer
Thayne Jackson
Brandon Scott
Ashton Torres

2017 -
Payton Stoner
Skyler Martin
 
PlayerRep said:
4theluvofgriz said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizfankb said:
He is also correct. Starters average 295 and 6 ft 4. 2 RF 1So 1JR 1SR

Montana State Starters average 295 and 6ft 4 too. 1Fr, 2So, 1Jr, 1SR

Here are the Game Notes for WIU and MSU:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/Game_Notes_1.pdf

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/FB_Notes_18_1_WIU.pdf

OFFENSE - WIU

LT 76 Drew Wagner Sr. 6-6 312 Tiffin, Iowa

LG 66 Michael Ross R-Fr. 6-2 320 Lombard, Ill.

C 73 Kyle Sanft R-So. 6-4 286 Bartlett, Ill.

RG 63 Chris Zobrist R-Jr. 6-3 280 Troy, Ill.

RT 75 Austin Hopp R-Fr. 6-5 280 Minnetonka, Minn.

2018 MSU Depth Chart

Offense

LEFT TACKLE
63 Mitch Brott** (like brought) 6-6 290 Jr&

LEFT GUARD
51 Taylor Tuiasosopo* (too-ee-ah-so-SO-PO) 6-3 295 So&

CENTER
70 Alex Neale** 6-3 285 Sr+&

RIGHT GUARD
76 Lewis Kidd* 6-6 305 So&

RIGHT TACKLE
66 Connor Wood 6-4 300 Fr&

I guess Tuiasosopo must have had a severe case of diarrhea to get down to 295, because his listed weight on the official MSU roster is 314 lbs. Here is the link.

https://247sports.com/Team/Montana-State-Bobcats-Football-259/Roster

Thanks for showing us that both the MSU and WIU lines average "only" 295 lbs, which totally supports my point that size is highly overrated for O-linemen. Even though WIU has 8 linemen on their roster weighing over 300 lbs., only two of them were good enough to start, being beaten-out by much smaller guys. Again, fans using the fact that our O-line averages well over 300 lbs. as a reason why we will be good on the O-line is a fallacy. And, Hauck and Germer would agree.

We will have a good O-line when the starters get enough real-game reps to get their execution and pre-snap reads honed, and that only comes with experience. Germer knows it. Bobby knows it. Apparently some Griz fans don't.

Sorry, but the depth chart weight in the Game Notes put out by the Cats a few days ago probably trumps the roster done previously. Can you at least admit that "every" Big Sky team doesn't have starters averaging "over 300", now that you've been proven to be wrong. Even if the higher weight for that guy is used, they still don't average over 300 pounds.

Proving once again that you've never gotten a statistic right in your life.

By the way, no one has said the UM o-line will be good because they are big or average over 300. It is one of many reasons.

By the way, I have talked to both Hauck and Germer about the o-line. When I said the o-line was big, athletic, and well-coached, and I thought they would be fine, he said only that they are young and inexperienced. What did Hauck and Germer tell you? Ha.

Also, I find it interesting how many posters seemed not to get my initial joke post. Yes, I do believe in the o-line, and I was doing a rah-rah post since it's game week, but the rest of what I said was intended to be a small spoof mimicking a lot of posts I see on egriz.

If you weren't always so quick to get defensive, puff up your chest and pull out the "talked to Bobby and Germer" line maybe you'd have the time to "get" other posters' replies. We "got" it PR....you're funny....ever think of getting into comedy?

Go Griz! Go O-Line!
 
PlayerRep said:
4theluvofgriz said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizfankb said:
He is also correct. Starters average 295 and 6 ft 4. 2 RF 1So 1JR 1SR

Montana State Starters average 295 and 6ft 4 too. 1Fr, 2So, 1Jr, 1SR

Here are the Game Notes for WIU and MSU:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/Game_Notes_1.pdf

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/FB_Notes_18_1_WIU.pdf

OFFENSE - WIU

LT 76 Drew Wagner Sr. 6-6 312 Tiffin, Iowa

LG 66 Michael Ross R-Fr. 6-2 320 Lombard, Ill.

C 73 Kyle Sanft R-So. 6-4 286 Bartlett, Ill.

RG 63 Chris Zobrist R-Jr. 6-3 280 Troy, Ill.

RT 75 Austin Hopp R-Fr. 6-5 280 Minnetonka, Minn.

2018 MSU Depth Chart

Offense

LEFT TACKLE
63 Mitch Brott** (like brought) 6-6 290 Jr&

LEFT GUARD
51 Taylor Tuiasosopo* (too-ee-ah-so-SO-PO) 6-3 295 So&

CENTER
70 Alex Neale** 6-3 285 Sr+&

RIGHT GUARD
76 Lewis Kidd* 6-6 305 So&

RIGHT TACKLE
66 Connor Wood 6-4 300 Fr&

I guess Tuiasosopo must have had a severe case of diarrhea to get down to 295, because his listed weight on the official MSU roster is 314 lbs. Here is the link.

https://247sports.com/Team/Montana-State-Bobcats-Football-259/Roster

Thanks for showing us that both the MSU and WIU lines average "only" 295 lbs, which totally supports my point that size is highly overrated for O-linemen. Even though WIU has 8 linemen on their roster weighing over 300 lbs., only two of them were good enough to start, being beaten-out by much smaller guys. Again, fans using the fact that our O-line averages well over 300 lbs. as a reason why we will be good on the O-line is a fallacy. And, Hauck and Germer would agree.

We will have a good O-line when the starters get enough real-game reps to get their execution and pre-snap reads honed, and that only comes with experience. Germer knows it. Bobby knows it. Apparently some Griz fans don't.

Sorry, but the depth chart weight in the Game Notes put out by the Cats a few days ago probably trumps the roster done previously. Can you at least admit that "every" Big Sky team doesn't have starters averaging "over 300", now that you've been proven to be wrong. Even if the higher weight for that guy is used, they still don't average over 300 pounds.

Proving once again that you've never gotten a statistic right in your life.

By the way, no one has said the UM o-line will be good because they are big or average over 300. It is one of many reasons.

By the way, I have talked to both Hauck and Germer about the o-line. When I said the o-line was big, athletic, and well-coached, and I thought they would be fine, he said only that they are young and inexperienced. What did Hauck and Germer tell you? Ha.

Also, I find it interesting how many posters seemed not to get my initial joke post. Yes, I do believe in the o-line, and I was doing a rah-rah post since it's game week, but the rest of what I said was intended to be a small spoof mimicking a lot of posts I see on egriz.

Please show me a post from me where I stated that all Big Sky teams "average over 300 across the line". Oh, you can't. You just like to play your one-up-man game for everyone on this board. How many posters on here have to call your "smarter-than-thou" B.S. before you get the message that your opinions are not everything. You are just a washed-up old hack who name-drops how much of an insider you are on a routine basis and relishes self-promotion. Your game, just like your playing career, got old many years ago.
 
Mousegriz said:
PlayerRep said:
4theluvofgriz said:
PlayerRep said:
Here are the Game Notes for WIU and MSU:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/Game_Notes_1.pdf

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/FB_Notes_18_1_WIU.pdf

OFFENSE - WIU

LT 76 Drew Wagner Sr. 6-6 312 Tiffin, Iowa

LG 66 Michael Ross R-Fr. 6-2 320 Lombard, Ill.

C 73 Kyle Sanft R-So. 6-4 286 Bartlett, Ill.

RG 63 Chris Zobrist R-Jr. 6-3 280 Troy, Ill.

RT 75 Austin Hopp R-Fr. 6-5 280 Minnetonka, Minn.

2018 MSU Depth Chart

Offense

LEFT TACKLE
63 Mitch Brott** (like brought) 6-6 290 Jr&

LEFT GUARD
51 Taylor Tuiasosopo* (too-ee-ah-so-SO-PO) 6-3 295 So&

CENTER
70 Alex Neale** 6-3 285 Sr+&

RIGHT GUARD
76 Lewis Kidd* 6-6 305 So&

RIGHT TACKLE
66 Connor Wood 6-4 300 Fr&

I guess Tuiasosopo must have had a severe case of diarrhea to get down to 295, because his listed weight on the official MSU roster is 314 lbs. Here is the link.

https://247sports.com/Team/Montana-State-Bobcats-Football-259/Roster

Thanks for showing us that both the MSU and WIU lines average "only" 295 lbs, which totally supports my point that size is highly overrated for O-linemen. Even though WIU has 8 linemen on their roster weighing over 300 lbs., only two of them were good enough to start, being beaten-out by much smaller guys. Again, fans using the fact that our O-line averages well over 300 lbs. as a reason why we will be good on the O-line is a fallacy. And, Hauck and Germer would agree.

We will have a good O-line when the starters get enough real-game reps to get their execution and pre-snap reads honed, and that only comes with experience. Germer knows it. Bobby knows it. Apparently some Griz fans don't.

Sorry, but the depth chart weight in the Game Notes put out by the Cats a few days ago probably trumps the roster done previously. Can you at least admit that "every" Big Sky team doesn't have starters averaging "over 300", now that you've been proven to be wrong. Even if the higher weight for that guy is used, they still don't average over 300 pounds.

Proving once again that you've never gotten a statistic right in your life.

By the way, no one has said the UM o-line will be good because they are big or average over 300. It is one of many reasons.

By the way, I have talked to both Hauck and Germer about the o-line. When I said the o-line was big, athletic, and well-coached, and I thought they would be fine, he said only that they are young and inexperienced. What did Hauck and Germer tell you? Ha.

Also, I find it interesting how many posters seemed not to get my initial joke post. Yes, I do believe in the o-line, and I was doing a rah-rah post since it's game week, but the rest of what I said was intended to be a small spoof mimicking a lot of posts I see on egriz.

If you weren't always so quick to get defensive, puff up your chest and pull out the "talked to Bobby and Germer" line maybe you'd have the time to "get" other posters' replies. We "got" it PR....you're funny....ever think of getting into comedy?

Go Griz! Go O-Line!


Oh, besides being an amateur comedian, don't forget how important and connected he is. He and Bobby wear the same style of underwear.
 
Oh, besides being an amateur comedian, don't forget how important and connected he is. He and Bobby wear the same style of underwear.
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Same style...most likely different sizes and I'd guess Bobby's have less "stripes"!
 
4theluvofgriz said:
4theluvofgriz said:
PlayerRep said:
4theluvofgriz said:
I guess Tuiasosopo must have had a severe case of diarrhea to get down to 295, because his listed weight on the official MSU roster is 314 lbs. Here is the link.

https://247sports.com/Team/Montana-State-Bobcats-Football-259/Roster

Thanks for showing us that both the MSU and WIU lines average "only" 295 lbs, which totally supports my point that size is highly overrated for O-linemen. Even though WIU has 8 linemen on their roster weighing over 300 lbs., only two of them were good enough to start, being beaten-out by much smaller guys. Again, fans using the fact that our O-line averages well over 300 lbs. as a reason why we will be good on the O-line is a fallacy. And, Hauck and Germer would agree.

We will have a good O-line when the starters get enough real-game reps to get their execution and pre-snap reads honed, and that only comes with experience. Germer knows it. Bobby knows it. Apparently some Griz fans don't.

Sorry, but the depth chart weight in the Game Notes put out by the Cats a few days ago probably trumps the roster done previously. Can you at least admit that "every" Big Sky team doesn't have starters averaging "over 300", now that you've been proven to be wrong. Even if the higher weight for that guy is used, they still don't average over 300 pounds.

Proving once again that you've never gotten a statistic right in your life.

By the way, no one has said the UM o-line will be good because they are big or average over 300. It is one of many reasons.

By the way, I have talked to both Hauck and Germer about the o-line. When I said the o-line was big, athletic, and well-coached, and I thought they would be fine, he said only that they are young and inexperienced. What did Hauck and Germer tell you? Ha.

Also, I find it interesting how many posters seemed not to get my initial joke post. Yes, I do believe in the o-line, and I was doing a rah-rah post since it's game week, but the rest of what I said was intended to be a small spoof mimicking a lot of posts I see on egriz.

Please show me a post from me where I stated that all Big Sky teams "average over 300 across the line". Oh, you can't. All I said was that every Big Sky Line had plenty of 300 pounders, which they do. You embellished after that to fit your narrative, which is par for the course for you.

Here's your post:

"Every Big Sky team has 300-lb. O-linemen across their front. That doesn't mean that they have good O-lines. 300 lbs is the norm now for FCS and FBS linemen."

Is it your view that "300 lbs across the front" means 2 starters over 300, 1 at 300, and 2 under 300, for any average of 295?

Is your view that "300 lbs across the front" means that some/many are under 300, and their average is under 300?

Is it your view that WIU, a good FBS team, has "300 lbs across the front" even though they have 3 starters at 286, 280 and 280?

Just when I think you can't say anything more wrong or stupid, you surprise me.
 
4theluvofgriz said:
Mousegriz said:
PlayerRep said:
4theluvofgriz said:
I guess Tuiasosopo must have had a severe case of diarrhea to get down to 295, because his listed weight on the official MSU roster is 314 lbs. Here is the link.

https://247sports.com/Team/Montana-State-Bobcats-Football-259/Roster

Thanks for showing us that both the MSU and WIU lines average "only" 295 lbs, which totally supports my point that size is highly overrated for O-linemen. Even though WIU has 8 linemen on their roster weighing over 300 lbs., only two of them were good enough to start, being beaten-out by much smaller guys. Again, fans using the fact that our O-line averages well over 300 lbs. as a reason why we will be good on the O-line is a fallacy. And, Hauck and Germer would agree.

We will have a good O-line when the starters get enough real-game reps to get their execution and pre-snap reads honed, and that only comes with experience. Germer knows it. Bobby knows it. Apparently some Griz fans don't.

Sorry, but the depth chart weight in the Game Notes put out by the Cats a few days ago probably trumps the roster done previously. Can you at least admit that "every" Big Sky team doesn't have starters averaging "over 300", now that you've been proven to be wrong. Even if the higher weight for that guy is used, they still don't average over 300 pounds.

Proving once again that you've never gotten a statistic right in your life.

By the way, no one has said the UM o-line will be good because they are big or average over 300. It is one of many reasons.

By the way, I have talked to both Hauck and Germer about the o-line. When I said the o-line was big, athletic, and well-coached, and I thought they would be fine, he said only that they are young and inexperienced. What did Hauck and Germer tell you? Ha.

Also, I find it interesting how many posters seemed not to get my initial joke post. Yes, I do believe in the o-line, and I was doing a rah-rah post since it's game week, but the rest of what I said was intended to be a small spoof mimicking a lot of posts I see on egriz.

If you weren't always so quick to get defensive, puff up your chest and pull out the "talked to Bobby and Germer" line maybe you'd have the time to "get" other posters' replies. We "got" it PR....you're funny....ever think of getting into comedy?

Go Griz! Go O-Line!


Oh, besides being an amateur comedian, don't forget how important and connected he is. He and Bobby wear the same style of underwear.

You, with no basis, said Hauck and Germer would agree with you. So, since I had talked to them about the subject (especially Hauck), I said that they didn't agree with you. That isn't puffing the chest. That is merely pointing out your almost non-stop nonsense. You mentioned Hauck and Germer first, buddy.

Plus, I like how you lie about being at practice, when they are closed and you weren't there.
 
I don't know what to think about the O-Line. The group in total has not lived up to the Griz tradition of excellence in some time. It has been a while since I really felt good about the unit.

I know they are well coached.

Given the attrition they've had, and some new faces - my guess is they will struggle.

I am hopeful their coaching, scheme, and the defense can give them time to improve as the season progresses.
 
PlayerRep said:
4theluvofgriz said:
Mousegriz said:
PlayerRep said:
Sorry, but the depth chart weight in the Game Notes put out by the Cats a few days ago probably trumps the roster done previously. Can you at least admit that "every" Big Sky team doesn't have starters averaging "over 300", now that you've been proven to be wrong. Even if the higher weight for that guy is used, they still don't average over 300 pounds.

Proving once again that you've never gotten a statistic right in your life.

By the way, no one has said the UM o-line will be good because they are big or average over 300. It is one of many reasons.

By the way, I have talked to both Hauck and Germer about the o-line. When I said the o-line was big, athletic, and well-coached, and I thought they would be fine, he said only that they are young and inexperienced. What did Hauck and Germer tell you? Ha.

Also, I find it interesting how many posters seemed not to get my initial joke post. Yes, I do believe in the o-line, and I was doing a rah-rah post since it's game week, but the rest of what I said was intended to be a small spoof mimicking a lot of posts I see on egriz.

If you weren't always so quick to get defensive, puff up your chest and pull out the "talked to Bobby and Germer" line maybe you'd have the time to "get" other posters' replies. We "got" it PR....you're funny....ever think of getting into comedy?

Go Griz! Go O-Line!


Oh, besides being an amateur comedian, don't forget how important and connected he is. He and Bobby wear the same style of underwear.

You, with no basis, said Hauck and Germer would agree with you. So, since I had talked to them about the subject (especially Hauck), I said that they didn't agree with you. That isn't puffing the chest. That is merely pointing out your almost non-stop nonsense. You mentioned Hauck and Germer first, buddy.

Plus, I like how you lie about being at practice, when they are closed and you weren't there.

You are such a joke on this board, and the funniest thing is, you have no clue how posters feel about your constant chest-pounding and name dropping. We don't care about how many times you talk with Hauck, or how many players and coaches visit your lake house. It is nauseating and only exposes how insecure you are. If it gives your pathetic life meaning by jock-sniffing, then by all means go for it.

Oh, and since you seem to know so much about Griz football, here's a news flash for ya. Fall practices have been open to the public since they began. I have attended three of them, and met several egriz posters there.
 
I do believe a lot of questions will be answered in less than one week. However, many more will arise...
 
Payton, please close this thread. Enough dain brammage already on this topic, turning it into a pissing match, and not anything about football.
 
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