I believe in the Griz offensive line

[4theluvofgriz]

The OL is not going to be an issue. The naysayers are going to be disappointed. Not only are they big, they are smart and move just fine.

Are they better than coach hauck is leading? Yes. Am I worried about the oline? Yes will they build their scheme to help the young oline? Yes. As I have said in many other places, this team is gonna look very different than the last few years. Our run schemes will help the oline rather than hurt us. Doesn’t mean the oline will be perfect. They will have missed assignments. They talent is not what BH is worried about. But two juniors two sophomore and a freshman is not gonna be our most experienced group

As usual, there is way too much emphasis by fans on size, and way too little on skill, experience, and depth. Every Big Sky team has 300-lb. O-linemen across their front. That doesn't mean that they have good O-lines. 300 lbs is the norm now for FCS and FBS linemen.

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

 

[4theluvofgriz]

Are they better than coach hauck is leading? Yes. Am I worried about the oline? Yes will they build their scheme to help the young oline? Yes. As I have said in many other places, this team is gonna look very different than the last few years. Our run schemes will help the oline rather than hurt us. Doesn’t mean the oline will be perfect. They will have missed assignments. They talent is not what BH is worried about. But two juniors two sophomore and a freshman is not gonna be our most experienced group

As usual, there is way too much emphasis by fans on size, and way too little on skill, experience, and depth. Every Big Sky team has 300-lb. O-linemen across their front. That doesn't mean that they have good O-lines. 300 lbs is the norm now for FCS and FBS linemen.

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

He keeps thinking it but his wife still won't change her mind....size does in fact matter

Yeah, you are correct. I was wondering about all of those "penis reduction surgery" brochures she keeps placing under my pillow

 

[mtgrizfankb]

As usual, there is way too much emphasis by fans on size, and way too little on skill, experience, and depth. Every Big Sky team has 300-lb. O-linemen across their front. That doesn't mean that they have good O-lines. 300 lbs is the norm now for FCS and FBS linemen.

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

He keeps thinking it but his wife still won't change her mind....size does in fact matter

Yeah, you are correct. I was wondering about all of those "penis reduction surgery" brochures she keeps placing under my pillow

:lol: I think its what she hides under HER pillow what you have to worry about

 

[4theluvofgriz]

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

He keeps thinking it but his wife still won't change her mind....size does in fact matter

Yeah, you are correct. I was wondering about all of those "penis reduction surgery" brochures she keeps placing under my pillow

:lol: I think its what she hides under HER pillow what you have to worry about

Oh, we use that together. You might want to try it sometime. My nickname in high school was Big Dick Hertzer. :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

Are they better than coach hauck is leading? Yes. Am I worried about the oline? Yes will they build their scheme to help the young oline? Yes. As I have said in many other places, this team is gonna look very different than the last few years. Our run schemes will help the oline rather than hurt us. Doesn’t mean the oline will be perfect. They will have missed assignments. They talent is not what BH is worried about. But two juniors two sophomore and a freshman is not gonna be our most experienced group

As usual, there is way too much emphasis by fans on size, and way too little on skill, experience, and depth. Every Big Sky team has 300-lb. O-linemen across their front. That doesn't mean that they have good O-lines. 300 lbs is the norm now for FCS and FBS linemen.

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

As usual, there is way too much emphasis by fans on size, and way too little on skill, experience, and depth. Every Big Sky team has 300-lb. O-linemen across their front. That doesn't mean that they have good O-lines. 300 lbs is the norm now for FCS and FBS linemen.

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

and their so damn confident about playing MSU they only use 4 lineman :thumb:

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

and their so damn confident about playing MSU they only use 4 lineman :thumb:

He is also correct. Starters average 295 and 6 ft 4. 2 RF 1So 1JR 1SR

Montana State Starters average 295 and 6ft 4 too. 1Fr, 2So, 1Jr, 1SR

 

[bgbigdog]

As long as Thatcher & Brent are ready to go, we’re going to be fine.

 

[Mousegriz]

As usual, there is way too much emphasis by fans on size, and way too little on skill, experience, and depth. Every Big Sky team has 300-lb. O-linemen across their front. That doesn't mean that they have good O-lines. 300 lbs is the norm now for FCS and FBS linemen.

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

I don't know much about O-line play......but looks like a couple tiny little wimpy ass teams playing over in Bozeman on Thursday. Based on the Griz O-line bios, heights and weights I don't see either of those teams posing any problems for the taller and heavier Griz. Maybe it will all come down to the parents!

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Infact! If we really want to research, as of 2016 Majority of FCS Olineman was 6ft3-6ft5 and 291 pounds. Division FBS was 6ft 4-6ft6 and 301 pounds

 

[PlayerRep]

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

and their so damn confident about playing MSU they only use 4 lineman :thumb:

He is also correct. Starters average 295 and 6 ft 4. 2 RF 1So 1JR 1SR

Montana State Starters average 295 and 6ft 4 too. 1Fr, 2So, 1Jr, 1SR

Here are the Game Notes for WIU and MSU:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/Game_Notes_1.pdf

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goleathernecks.com/documents/2018/8/28/FB_Notes_18_1_WIU.pdf

OFFENSE - WIU

LT 76 Drew Wagner Sr. 6-6 312 Tiffin, Iowa

LG 66 Michael Ross R-Fr. 6-2 320 Lombard, Ill.

C 73 Kyle Sanft R-So. 6-4 286 Bartlett, Ill.

RG 63 Chris Zobrist R-Jr. 6-3 280 Troy, Ill.

RT 75 Austin Hopp R-Fr. 6-5 280 Minnetonka, Minn.

2018 MSU Depth Chart

Offense

LEFT TACKLE
63 Mitch Brott** (like brought) 6-6 290 Jr&

LEFT GUARD
51 Taylor Tuiasosopo* (too-ee-ah-so-SO-PO) 6-3 295 So&

CENTER
70 Alex Neale** 6-3 285 Sr+&

RIGHT GUARD
76 Lewis Kidd* 6-6 305 So&

RIGHT TACKLE
66 Connor Wood 6-4 300 Fr&

 

[PlayerRep]

Western Illinois and Montana State starters don't average over 300 on the 0-line. MSU has only 1 starter over 300, and he is 305.

Are you making up stats again?

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

I don't know much about O-line play......but looks like a couple tiny little wimpy ass teams playing over in Bozeman on Thursday. Based on the Griz O-line bios, heights and weights I don't see either of those teams posing any problems for the taller and heavier Griz. Maybe it will all come down to the parents!

How would you evaluate the bench strength of these teams' o-lines? I believe you are experienced in evaluating bench players, right?

 

[WaGriz4life]

I have way too much confidence in Pease and Rosie to be losing sleep over the Oline.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

I have way too much confidence in Pease and Rosie to be losing sleep over the Oline.

I would say about 70% of FCS teams start atleast one freshman on the offensive line. I also think we will be fine but our coaches will never say that. I would imagine we see a lot of rollout to the left and rollout to the right. :thumb:

 

[krammer]

what one would expect to see with a young o/l is lots of zone blocking.....meaning head up, inside, outside man....and BE PHYSICAL.....also nothing changes on pass plays.....after a few games expect the more exotic blocking schemes, pulling guards, trap blocking with guards, tackles, influence blocks, tight ends and slot backs in set or in motion.... etc. etc. ....i choose to believe...go griz !

 

[Mousegriz]

Nice try, but it looks like you are the one making up stats. But why are we surprised? Uh, here is the link to the Western Illinois roster. It shows 14 O-linemen, with 8 of them being 300+ pounds. Of the remaining 6 who are under 300, four of them are freshmen, and I am quite sure most or all will be 300+ by the time they are juniors.

https://goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?roster=1568&path=football

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

I don't know much about O-line play......but looks like a couple tiny little wimpy ass teams playing over in Bozeman on Thursday. Based on the Griz O-line bios, heights and weights I don't see either of those teams posing any problems for the taller and heavier Griz. Maybe it will all come down to the parents!

How would you evaluate the bench strength of these teams' o-lines? I believe you are experienced in evaluating bench players, right?

WTF does bench strength have to do with this.....even the Griz have some bench players that don't weigh 300 and aren't as tall as the STARTERS....we're talking STARTERS here......Griz STARTING OL is heavy and tall and because of that...and the good O-line coach that didn't get replaced this year....they should very be good!

Heavy and Tall!

Loud and Cold!

 

[Ursus1]

I have way too much confidence in Pease and Rosie to be losing sleep over the Oline.

I would say about 70% of FCS teams start atleast one freshman on the offensive line. I also think we will be fine but our coaches will never say that. I would imagine we see a lot of rollout to the left and rollout to the right. :thumb:

How will run game be behind a line that relies on rollouts ro keep QB upright?

 

[PlayerRep]

We are taking about STARTERS. My statement/stats are correct. I looked up the game notes for their upcoming game. WI has 2 over 300 and 2 under 300, is my recollection. They don't AVERAGE over 300.

I don't know much about O-line play......but looks like a couple tiny little wimpy ass teams playing over in Bozeman on Thursday. Based on the Griz O-line bios, heights and weights I don't see either of those teams posing any problems for the taller and heavier Griz. Maybe it will all come down to the parents!

How would you evaluate the bench strength of these teams' o-lines? I believe you are experienced in evaluating bench players, right?

WTF does bench strength have to do with this.....even the Griz have some bench players that don't weigh 300 and aren't as tall as the STARTERS....we're talking STARTERS here......Griz STARTING OL is heavy and tall and because of that...and the good O-line coach that didn't get replaced this year....they should very be good!

Heavy and Tall!

Loud and Cold!

Depth is important. Hauck keeps mentioning it. Had heard you have experience in evaluating bench warmers, i.e. depth.

 

[Paytonlives]

https://twitter.com/Punjabceo/status/1033741776178167808

 

[indian-outlaw]

sugarcoat it all you want but the chances are good that we are going to have problems up front for a while this year.