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The Griz beat a good team on their field at homecoming. That is a wonderful accomplishment by our team. Yet there are ding bats on this board who continue to insist that we could have lost the game. I’m beginning to think that they don’t understand competitive athletics and might have been happier if the Griz lost the game.
 
garizzalies said:
mthoopsfan said:
I said could be second-guessed. I didn’t second guess them. One had a huge blocking mistake.
Oh I agree 💯 and am on the same page.
Most of the posters complaining are arguing about the possibility of calling maybe one or two passes but they do not yet appreciate the increased risk this year under the new rules that if those two would have been drops, The Griz would have had a higher chance of losing.
Taking dumb risks = playing to lose.
Managing risk appropriately = playing to win.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

3/out = playing not to lose
becoming predictable = playing not to lose
 
Spanky2 said:
The Griz beat a good team on their field at homecoming. That is a wonderful accomplishment by our team. Yet there are ding bats on this board who continue to insist that we could have lost the game. I’m beginning to think that they don’t understand competitive athletics and might have been happier if the Griz lost the game.

Nobody is wishing the Griz had lost the game, Spanky. Our primary concern lies in the fact that THAT kind of play calling WILL lose us a game down the road, and it'll be one that's potentially much more important than this one.
 
garizzalies said:
mthoopsfan said:
I said could be second-guessed. I didn’t second guess them. One had a huge blocking mistake.
Oh I agree 💯 and am on the same page.
Most of the posters complaining are arguing about the possibility of calling maybe one or two passes but they do not yet appreciate the increased risk this year under the new rules that if those two would have been drops, The Griz would have had a higher chance of losing.
Taking dumb risks = playing to lose.
Managing risk appropriately = playing to win.

Got it.
 
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
Oh I agree 💯 and am on the same page.
Most of the posters complaining are arguing about the possibility of calling maybe one or two passes but they do not yet appreciate the increased risk this year under the new rules that if those two would have been drops, The Griz would have had a higher chance of losing.
Taking dumb risks = playing to lose.
Managing risk appropriately = playing to win.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

3/out = playing not to lose
becoming predictable = playing not to lose

3 and out means not executing.
 
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
Oh I agree 💯 and am on the same page.
Most of the posters complaining are arguing about the possibility of calling maybe one or two passes but they do not yet appreciate the increased risk this year under the new rules that if those two would have been drops, The Griz would have had a higher chance of losing.
Taking dumb risks = playing to lose.
Managing risk appropriately = playing to win.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

3/out = playing not to lose
becoming predictable = playing not to lose

It was not the play-calling; it was the lack of execution a couple times. It happens. We won. Feel free to go on with your narratives.
 
Spanky2 said:
The Griz beat a good team on their field at homecoming. That is a wonderful accomplishment by our team. Yet there are ding bats on this board who continue to insist that we could have lost the game. I’m beginning to think that they don’t understand competitive athletics and might have been happier if the Griz lost the game.

Beating the no. 3 team in the country on their field on their homecoming, the same team that beat UM in Missoula last season, is just not good enough. Griz fans have higher standards.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Spanky2 said:
The Griz beat a good team on their field at homecoming. That is a wonderful accomplishment by our team. Yet there are ding bats on this board who continue to insist that we could have lost the game. I’m beginning to think that they don’t understand competitive athletics and might have been happier if the Griz lost the game.

Beating the no. 3 team in the country on their field on their homecoming, the same team that beat UM in Missoula last season, is just not good enough. Griz fans have higher standards.

At the risk of repeating myself, it's not about THIS game. It's about what's gonna happen down the road in a game where Bobby tries to "shorten the game" and the other team DOESN'T play slow down, clock-eating drives to shoot themselves in the foot like Idaho did.
 
mthoopsfan said:
AZGrizFan said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

3/out = playing not to lose
becoming predictable = playing not to lose

It was not the play-calling; it was the lack of execution a couple times. It happens. We won. Feel free to go on with your narratives.

It's not a narrative. It's observations. Opinions. Discussion.
 
AZGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
It was not the play-calling; it was the lack of execution a couple times. It happens. We won. Feel free to go on with your narratives.

It's not a narrative. It's observations. Opinions. Discussion.

Nope. You have become mainly an all-narrative poster. This argument of yours isn't even remotely backed up by the play by play or reality.

You've become one of these types of posters: "The Griz aren't going to win anymore games this season. I hope I'm wrong."
 
Probably worth mentioning that the non-conservative coach lost the game.

Idaho scored right before the half. They get the ball at the start of the 3rd and imediatly drive to the Girz 12. Idaho goes for it on 4th and 6th - Interception. May have cost them the game. Any reasonable coach, kicks the field goal. Going for it on 4th down was not a conservative play , but a dumb play.

Next, Idaho scores late in the 4th quarter and attempts to 2 point conversion to tie the game. They try a reverse - taking the ball out of the hands of the QB who kept them in the game - no score. Certianly not a conservative play, but a dumb play.

Next thing you know, Montana wins. I was not happy with how conservative Montana was in the second half but turns out Ol' Coach Hauk got it right.
 
ranco said:
Probably worth mentioning that the non-conservative coach lost the game.

Idaho scored right before the half. They get the ball at the start of the 3rd and imediatly drive to the Girz 12. Idaho goes for it on 4th and 6th - Interception. May have cost them the game. Any reasonable coach, kicks the field goal. Going for it on 4th down was not a conservative play , but a dumb play.

Next, Idaho scores late in the 4th quarter and attempts to 2 point conversion to tie the game. They try a reverse - taking the ball out of the hands of the QB who kept them in the game - no score. Certianly not a conservative play, but a dumb play.

Next thing you know, Montana wins. I was not happy with how conservative Montana was in the second half but turns out Ol' Coach Hauk got it right.

Good points on Idaho coach. Again, I don't see the support for UM being conservative in the 2d half, until late in game.
 
ranco said:
Probably worth mentioning that the non-conservative coach lost the game.

Idaho scored right before the half. They get the ball at the start of the 3rd and imediatly drive to the Girz 12. Idaho goes for it on 4th and 6th - Interception. May have cost them the game. Any reasonable coach, kicks the field goal. Going for it on 4th down was not a conservative play , but a dumb play.

Next, Idaho scores late in the 4th quarter and attempts to 2 point conversion to tie the game. They try a reverse - taking the ball out of the hands of the QB who kept them in the game - no score. Certianly not a conservative play, but a dumb play.

Next thing you know, Montana wins. I was not happy with how conservative Montana was in the second half but turns out Ol' Coach Hauk got it right.

Post of the thread!
 
ranco said:
Probably worth mentioning that the non-conservative coach lost the game.

Idaho scored right before the half. They get the ball at the start of the 3rd and imediatly drive to the Girz 12. Idaho goes for it on 4th and 6th - Interception. May have cost them the game. Any reasonable coach, kicks the field goal. Going for it on 4th down was not a conservative play , but a dumb play.

Next, Idaho scores late in the 4th quarter and attempts to 2 point conversion to tie the game. They try a reverse - taking the ball out of the hands of the QB who kept them in the game - no score. Certianly not a conservative play, but a dumb play.

Next thing you know, Montana wins. I was not happy with how conservative Montana was in the second half but turns out Ol' Coach Hauk got it right.

Yeah... No.

That NC coach watched Montana hang twenty on his defense in the first half. He was facing the fact that they were having trouble containing the other team, not that he was calling dumb plays. He dodged a bullet when a pass overshot #14 early in the second half. I would say unequivocally that his defense had no particular answer for the Montana offense had they just continued on. Instead, the conservative coach gave up on his game plan, literally, right afterward. The Conservative coach managed to bang out nineteen plays in the half after the one they owned with the game plan they brought. The biggest gift the NC coach could ask for. Keeping Montana's offense off the field gave Idaho a chance at a comeback after a literal disaster of a first half. A field goal might have helped, but he was still thinking he was going to have to fight it out with Hauck's offense, you remember - the one they had no answer for in the first half. Not a dumb call at all.

Montana's defense was the reason the plays didn't work. McCoy hasn't been harassed like that this season. Not one game, including the FBS games played. He threw two interceptions, one bouncing off the hands of the best receiver in the FCS at the goal line. Not a dumb play for a team that honestly believed they could win if they just ran their offense. That same guy slipped on the two-point conversion attempt, or there might have been a more preferable outcome. That likely wasn't something that they had shown on film prior, because, like Hauck, Eck has some specials trickeration up his sleeve. You might also recall the onsides kick that turned the tide in last year's game.

Bottom line, Eck believes in his guys and will put the game in their hands. Hauck on the other hand, is Conservative. He puts everything on the backs of the defense.

Hauck got lucky. He knows that as well.
 
bgbigdog said:
ranco said:
Probably worth mentioning that the non-conservative coach lost the game.

Idaho scored right before the half. They get the ball at the start of the 3rd and imediatly drive to the Girz 12. Idaho goes for it on 4th and 6th - Interception. May have cost them the game. Any reasonable coach, kicks the field goal. Going for it on 4th down was not a conservative play , but a dumb play.

Next, Idaho scores late in the 4th quarter and attempts to 2 point conversion to tie the game. They try a reverse - taking the ball out of the hands of the QB who kept them in the game - no score. Certianly not a conservative play, but a dumb play.

Next thing you know, Montana wins. I was not happy with how conservative Montana was in the second half but turns out Ol' Coach Hauk got it right.

Yeah... No.

That NC coach watched Montana hang twenty on his defense in the first half. He was facing the fact that they were having trouble containing the other team, not that he was calling dumb plays. He dodged a bullet when a pass overshot #14 early in the second half. I would say unequivocally that his defense had no particular answer for the Montana offense had they just continued on. Instead, the conservative coach gave up on his game plan, literally, right afterward. The Conservative coach managed to bang out nineteen plays in the half after the one they owned with the game plan they brought. The biggest gift the NC coach could ask for. Keeping Montana's offense off the field gave Idaho a chance at a comeback after a literal disaster of a first half. A field goal might have helped, but he was still thinking he was going to have to fight it out with Hauck's offense, you remember - the one they had no answer for in the first half. Not a dumb call at all.

Montana's defense was the reason the plays didn't work. McCoy hasn't been harassed like that this season. Not one game, including the FBS games played. He threw two interceptions, one bouncing off the hands of the best receiver in the FCS at the goal line. Not a dumb play for a team that honestly believed they could win if they just ran their offense. That same guy slipped on the two-point conversion attempt, or there might have been a more preferable outcome. That likely wasn't something that they had shown on film prior, because, like Hauck, Eck has some specials trickeration up his sleeve. You might also recall the onsides kick that turned the tide in last year's game.

Bottom line, Eck believes in his guys and will put the game in their hands. Hauck on the other hand, is Conservative. He puts everything on the backs of the defense.

Hauck got lucky. He knows that as well.

Look at the second half plays. They don't support what you said. I went through the plays up above. If you D is better than your O, why wouldn't you rely on the D more.
 
I think I 've discovered how BH manages to recruit so many hungry defensive players to become Griz. "Do you want to play, and play, and play, and play, and play, and become the center of the world's attention in the second half of EVERY GAME? Then come to Missoula. 8-)
 
The Griz defenders love to play. And love to play for Griz. I know or have met all 17 or so of the backers. Know 4 of them in particular. Know Cotton and Gubner too. They aren’t perfect, but they are damn good and playing well now. They are fired up. I hope they can keep getting it done as a team. Excited for them.
 
mthoopsfan said:
The Griz defenders love to play. And love to play for Griz. I know or have met all 17 or so of the backers. Know 4 of them in particular. Know Cotton and Gubner too. They aren’t perfect, but they are damn good and playing well now. They are fired up. I hope they can keep getting it done as a team. Excited for them.

Agreed. 100%.
 
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