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[mtgriz]

Who is responsible for posting the box score?
One site just said 'unavailable.' The box score would tell us how long the D was on the field.

2nd half Idaho Drives
13 PLAYS, 63 YARDS, 7:56
11 PLAYS, 41 YARDS, 4:30
17 PLAYS, 75 YARDS, 5:55
6 PLAYS, 75 YARDS, 1:45
1 PLAY, 0 YARDS, 0:10

2nd half Montana Drives
5 PLAYS, 18 YARDS, 2:13
7 PLAYS, 18 YARDS, 3:38
3 PLAYS, 6 YARDS, 2:16
4 PLAYS, 7 YARDS, 0:53
1 PLAYS, 0 YARDS, 0:42

If you have ESPN+, go back and watch the second half again without the anxiety clouding your impression. The play calling wasn’t as conservative as you’d think.

Drive #1 (20-7)
1. Missed deep ball to Fontes who had a step. Possible TD but if the DB catches him it is at least a 25 yard gain.
2. Completed 22 yard pass to White.
3. QB power for 3.
4. Quick slant to Gilman over the middle incomplete.
5. Trips left, wasn’t open, McDowell spills out of pocket to the right and blindsided sack by the former MT Tech guy.

Idaho then has a long drive that ends with the Jaxon Lee pick. They went for it twice on 4th down. Once from their own 37 yard line. One reason they had the ball so much is they weren’t punting and with McCoy’s dynamics it’s hard to get stops with four downs.

Drive #2 (still 20-7) starts on Idaho 45.
1. Ostmo off guard for 3.
2. Fake jet sweep, McDowell run middle for 1.
3. Slant complete to Fontes for 10, first down.
4. McDowell run left for 3.
5. Ostmo sweep right for 3.
6. Ostmo sweep left for -2.
7. FG good. ( I’m okay with the three consecutive runs here as a FG makes it a 16 point lead and bleeds max clock.)

Drive #3 (23-15, 5:48 remaining)
1. Gilman run middle for 1.
2. Gilman run middle breaks left for 4.
3. Empty backfield, Slip screen to Bergen for 1. (Solid play by Vandal defense, play call was not conservative, tried to get first down.)
Ran three plays getting 136 seconds off the clock, so managed the play clock well.

Drive #4 (23-21, 1:52 remaining, Idaho has 2 timeouts to use)
1. Xavier Harris off left tackle for 0 (this one was a headscratcher, to be honest)
2. McDowell sweep left for 3.
3. McDowell power sweep right for 5. (just a little better blocking here and it’s game over)
4. McDowell off right tackle for -2. (ugly out of sync play, and Idaho’s contain guy played it great also.)

Anyway, there were several play calls that were similar to what was being done in the first half. Execution just wasn’t as crisp. And like I said, the anxiety we all suffered those last 10 minutes clouded the collective memory.

 

[AZGrizFan]

8 of the last 9 plays and 10 of the last 12 were runs. He became predictable. Idaho was selling out on the run the entire 4th quarter.

 

[grizcountry420]

2nd half Idaho Drives
13 PLAYS, 63 YARDS, 7:56
11 PLAYS, 41 YARDS, 4:30
17 PLAYS, 75 YARDS, 5:55
6 PLAYS, 75 YARDS, 1:45
1 PLAY, 0 YARDS, 0:10

2nd half Montana Drives
5 PLAYS, 18 YARDS, 2:13
7 PLAYS, 18 YARDS, 3:38
3 PLAYS, 6 YARDS, 2:16
4 PLAYS, 7 YARDS, 0:53
1 PLAYS, 0 YARDS, 0:42

Thank you for your straight up adult answer. Where did you find it, so I won't ask the question again? :thumb:

I got this info from ESPN. If you go to play by play, it will show you the possessions and it will give you a break down of the plays ran.

 

[mtgriz]

8 of the last 9 plays and 10 of the last 12 were runs. He became predictable. Idaho was selling out on the run the entire 4th quarter.

Look, I’m no Hauck apologist. I’d like him to get the record and ride off into the sunset. But the narrative that the entire second half he was playing not to lose is just not accurate. If Idaho was selling out for the run, that slip screen to Bergen would have been nails. Give some credit to Idaho’s defense late in the game. They were energized by the crowd and made it hard to run or pass.

 

[grizcountry420]

8 of the last 9 plays and 10 of the last 12 were runs. He became predictable. Idaho was selling out on the run the entire 4th quarter.

Look, I’m no Hauck apologist. I’d like him to get the record and ride off into the sunset. But the narrative that the entire second half he was playing not to lose is just not accurate. If Idaho was selling out for the run, that slip screen to Bergen would have been nails. Give some credit to Idaho’s defense late in the game. They were energized by the crowd and made it hard to run or pass.

Idaho's defense was energized because they weren't on the field very much in the second half. Montana ran 20 plays compared to Idaho's 48 plays. Hauck most definitely was playing not to lose in the second half. The play calling was so predictable.

 

[mtgriz]

Look, I’m no Hauck apologist. I’d like him to get the record and ride off into the sunset. But the narrative that the entire second half he was playing not to lose is just not accurate. If Idaho was selling out for the run, that slip screen to Bergen would have been nails. Give some credit to Idaho’s defense late in the game. They were energized by the crowd and made it hard to run or pass.

Idaho's defense was energized because they weren't on the field very much in the second half. Montana ran 20 plays compared to Idaho's 48 plays. Hauck most definitely was playing not to lose in the second half. The play calling was so predictable.

Idaho’s play calling was pretty damn predictable as well! McCoy scrambling and slinging it. By your logic, why wasn’t Idaho’s defense energized in the first quarter?

The Griz had a 1st and 10 from their own 7 yard line early in the 2nd quarter. The play call was a handoff to Gillman. Pretty damn predictable I’d say. 53 yards later….at some point it’s more about execution and not just making a lazy argument that the play calling is predictable.

I guess we could try George Costanza as our play caller. Call a play that is the exact opposite of what your instinct tells you to do. Ha.

 

[EverettGriz]

I generally agree with AZ. Yes we get to celebrate a win but if not for a stupid offside penalty on the on-side kick, we could very well be bemoaning an ugly loss. If it is actually Bobby's strategy to barely hang on to a lead then it is a dumb one which will be exposed sooner or later. While I hate 30 point losses more, I still hate losing when your team lead by multiple scores for most of the game.

Well, but for that offside penalty, Idaho doesn't recover the kick, so I'm not sure how we can call it "stupid". The only reason Hatton recovered is that he had a full yard head start and was running at full speed before the ball was kicked.

 

[garizzalies]

8 of the last 9 plays and 10 of the last 12 were runs. He became predictable. Idaho was selling out on the run the entire 4th quarter.

I thought you did risk analysis for a living?

With the increasing number of drops at critical times in the second half, thank god we didn’t throw more and risk more clock stoppages and give UI more time. Your approach would play right into UI’s hands.

I know this is a joke phrase around here, but it’s true: BH got ‘em right where he wanted ‘em—in scramble mode at the end. He talked about it. Playing from behind in a hurry-up is the exact opposite of what UI wants to do.

 

[bgbigdog]

I generally agree with AZ. Yes we get to celebrate a win but if not for a stupid offside penalty on the on-side kick, we could very well be bemoaning an ugly loss. If it is actually Bobby's strategy to barely hang on to a lead then it is a dumb one which will be exposed sooner or later. While I hate 30 point losses more, I still hate losing when your team lead by multiple scores for most of the game.

Well, but for that offside penalty, Idaho doesn't recover the kick, so I'm not sure how we can call it "stupid". The only reason Hatton recovered is that he had a full yard head start and was running at full speed before the ball was kicked.

We can kick around semantics all day. I think the lament here is that things seemed to work well in the first half, why go away from the gal who brought you? When did Idaho shut things off? “Prevent offense” is going to get them beaten.

 

[AZGrizFan]

8 of the last 9 plays and 10 of the last 12 were runs. He became predictable. Idaho was selling out on the run the entire 4th quarter.

I thought you did risk analysis for a living?

With the increasing number of drops at critical times in the second half, thank god we didn’t throw more and risk more clock stoppages and give UI more time. Your approach would play right into UI’s hands.

I know this is a joke phrase around here, but it’s true: BH got ‘em right where he wanted ‘em—in scramble mode at the end. He talked about it. Playing from behind in a hurry-up is the exact opposite of what UI wants to do.

So you're blaming the drops for Bobby going conservative?

 

[AZGrizFan]

I generally agree with AZ. Yes we get to celebrate a win but if not for a stupid offside penalty on the on-side kick, we could very well be bemoaning an ugly loss. If it is actually Bobby's strategy to barely hang on to a lead then it is a dumb one which will be exposed sooner or later. While I hate 30 point losses more, I still hate losing when your team lead by multiple scores for most of the game.

Well, but for that offside penalty, Idaho doesn't recover the kick, so I'm not sure how we can call it "stupid". The only reason Hatton recovered is that he had a full yard head start and was running at full speed before the ball was kicked.

THat's a huge assumption. He was over by about 6 inches...to assume he doesn't get to that ball is a fairly large assumption, IMHO.

 

[Wolf777]

Well, but for that offside penalty, Idaho doesn't recover the kick, so I'm not sure how we can call it "stupid". The only reason Hatton recovered is that he had a full yard head start and was running at full speed before the ball was kicked.

THat's a huge assumption. He was over by about 6 inches...to assume he doesn't get to that ball is a fairly large assumption, IMHO.

It may be an assumption, but he was offside by half a body length, so regardless it negates everything. He’s a good receiver but he’s not 6’8” with a 7’ wingspan.

 

[AZGrizFan]

THat's a huge assumption. He was over by about 6 inches...to assume he doesn't get to that ball is a fairly large assumption, IMHO.

It may be an assumption, but he was iffside by half a body length. He’s a good receiver but he’s not 6’8” with a 7’ wingspan.

Well I guess we can be thankful that ref decided to throw the flag...they swallowed their whistles pretty much all night on much more obvious penalties than that one...

 

[garizzalies]

I thought you did risk analysis for a living?

With the increasing number of drops at critical times in the second half, thank god we didn’t throw more and risk more clock stoppages and give UI more time. Your approach would play right into UI’s hands.

I know this is a joke phrase around here, but it’s true: BH got ‘em right where he wanted ‘em—in scramble mode at the end. He talked about it. Playing from behind in a hurry-up is the exact opposite of what UI wants to do.

So you're blaming the drops for Bobby going conservative?

No. Where’d you get that?
Your flipping the “switch” theory doesn’t hold water as BH mentioned the issue at halftime. The plan was already in place. The increasing drops sealed it.
The new rules make Bobbyball 1.0 different than 2.0.
Drops are now more important than ever.

 

[garizzalies]

Well, but for that offside penalty, Idaho doesn't recover the kick, so I'm not sure how we can call it "stupid". The only reason Hatton recovered is that he had a full yard head start and was running at full speed before the ball was kicked.

We can kick around semantics all day. I think the lament here is that things seemed to work well in the first half, why go away from the gal who brought you? When did Idaho shut things off? “Prevent offense” is going to get them beaten.

You mean the ugly girl? That would never happen. My love is undying. Do I need to put more hearts in the title?

 

[bgbigdog]

We can kick around semantics all day. I think the lament here is that things seemed to work well in the first half, why go away from the gal who brought you? When did Idaho shut things off? “Prevent offense” is going to get them beaten.

You mean the ugly girl? That would never happen. My love is undying. Do I need to put more hearts in the title?

The saying refers to staying true to what got you to where you were. Rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Look it up.

 

[bgbigdog]

I thought you did risk analysis for a living?

With the increasing number of drops at critical times in the second half, thank god we didn’t throw more and risk more clock stoppages and give UI more time. Your approach would play right into UI’s hands.

I know this is a joke phrase around here, but it’s true: BH got ‘em right where he wanted ‘em—in scramble mode at the end. He talked about it. Playing from behind in a hurry-up is the exact opposite of what UI wants to do.

So you're blaming the drops for Bobby going conservative?

Hauck going conservative with the lead has been his MO since literally forever.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I generally agree with AZ. Yes we get to celebrate a win but if not for a stupid offside penalty on the on-side kick, we could very well be bemoaning an ugly loss. If it is actually Bobby's strategy to barely hang on to a lead then it is a dumb one which will be exposed sooner or later. While I hate 30 point losses more, I still hate losing when your team lead by multiple scores for most of the game.

Well, but for that offside penalty, Idaho doesn't recover the kick, so I'm not sure how we can call it "stupid". The only reason Hatton recovered is that he had a full yard head start and was running at full speed before the ball was kicked.

That one single near miss is not what makes "hang on for a win" strategy stupid. Relying on your opponent's failures (2 point conversion) and penalties so you can win is stupid. Griz had the game in hand and almost let it slip away. THAT is stupid. Now, not saying it can't be over-done. Lanning had the Ducks going for it on 4th down 3 times inside the red zone instead of kicking field goals. The Ducks lost by 3 points. There has to be a happy medium between "parking the bus" and excessive aggressiveness.

 

[3-7-77]

It's the Bye Week, chill! Take some time off. Then, watch SSU kick some scat ass on Saturday night.
From 'Platoon':
Sgt. Elias: 'Take a break, O'Neill, you don't have to be a pr*ck every day of your life, you know.'
:lol:

 

[bgbigdog]

Queue up the "win's a win" responses.

And that is certainly true. Facing one of the two best offenses in the conference, leaving your defense on the field for all but 19 plays in the second half, is a losing strategy if you care about the season. Nothing I saw in the first half would lead me to believe Idaho had the answers to what was going on such that they were going to bottle it up. Run the ball up the middle a whole bunch, which is an affect of his MO on having the lead, and what you get is.

A wins a win. Great week of prep, some things to clean up. if you believe in these guys, show them. Let them ball out.