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Humor from bobkitten nation

Cats2506 said:
Bear Axed said:
another really fun fact!
The kitten fans led by 2506 himself all believe that their Oline will get better as the year goes on.
(yet, not one of them believes any other teams D-line will improve and counter what little improvements the young. small kitten O-line will make)

:msugrad:

I would say that its expected that any Freshman starting every game and playing all the snaps will make more progress during that year than an upper classman will who has starting experience.

Experience and performance is not a linear equation, its a curve that flattens, of course it goes without saying that it is different for each individual.
Mckinney should really be hitting his stride by about cat griz time then eh?
 
Skookum-Jim said:
Cats2506 said:
Bear Axed said:
another really fun fact!
The kitten fans led by 2506 himself all believe that their Oline will get better as the year goes on.
(yet, not one of them believes any other teams D-line will improve and counter what little improvements the young. small kitten O-line will make)

:msugrad:

I would say that its expected that any Freshman starting every game and playing all the snaps will make more progress during that year than an upper classman will who has starting experience.

Experience and performance is not a linear equation, its a curve that flattens, of course it goes without saying that it is different for each individual.
Mckinney should really be hitting his stride by about cat griz time then eh?

Ya can't fix muscle memory learned over many years, sorry, you're stuck with a shitty passer
 
You losers need to quit this cat post crap, ya I get it we haven't won a chipper in a while and it makes you feel good to pick on the little retarded kid next door. If you have an infatuation with a team at least make it a good team like ewu... Always scared they will beat us
 
Cats2506 said:
Skookum-Jim said:
Cats2506 said:
Bear Axed said:
another really fun fact!
The kitten fans led by 2506 himself all believe that their Oline will get better as the year goes on.
(yet, not one of them believes any other teams D-line will improve and counter what little improvements the young. small kitten O-line will make)

:msugrad:

I would say that its expected that any Freshman starting every game and playing all the snaps will make more progress during that year than an upper classman will who has starting experience.

Experience and performance is not a linear equation, its a curve that flattens, of course it goes without saying that it is different for each individual.
Mckinney should really be hitting his stride by about cat griz time then eh?

Ya can't fix muscle memory learned over many years, sorry, you're stuck with a shitty passer
Well you better start teaching your O-line's muscles to not suck, otherwise trying to watch your offense in Cat-Griz will be just as hilarious as last year :lol:
 
Bear Axed said:
Cats2506 said:
Bear Axed said:
another really fun fact!
The kitten fans led by 2506 himself all believe that their Oline will get better as the year goes on.
(yet, not one of them believes any other teams D-line will improve and counter what little improvements the young. small kitten O-line will make)

:msugrad:

I would say that its expected that any Freshman starting every game and playing all the snaps will make more progress during that year than an upper classman will who has starting experience.

Experience and performance is not a linear equation, its a curve that flattens, of course it goes without saying that it is different for each individual.
Ya a curve that flattens to about a 36/10 ratio? Right

Or a 70-36 ratio. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
gofor2 said:
You losers need to quit this cat post crap, ya I get it we haven't won a chipper in a while and it makes you feel good to pick on the little retarded kid next door. If you have an infatuation with a team at least make it a good team like ewu... Always scared they will beat us

The little retarded kid walked out winners the last time they walked out of WAGRIZ. And, if my memory serves me, it's tough to win on the red field.
 
Just some I'm clear....

A few years ago when UM was ranked in the top 2 or 3 and had close wins against crappy teams (ie Idaho State) that was because UM had a bullseye on their back and opposing teams put out more effort against UM because they were ranked so high. Now that MSU is ranked in the top 2-3 and are winning close games against average/below average teams it's because MSU is overrated?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Please advise....
 
Cats2506 said:
grizaremoregooder said:
Their problems are not an easy fix. The offensive line is just young and not very good. Teaching technique and form will only get you so far, you can't teach a kid to be bigger, stronger, and older. They can't protect the quarterback or run the ball between the tackles from what I have seen. Denarius Mcghee is the only thing keeping this team going right now. I watched him take 5-6 bad hits last week you can't just keep taking that type of punishment over the course of season and not get banged up. Not clue how healthy he will be after running for his life for an entire season. The cats don't have that long ball threat they had with Akpla like last season and they are having to keep the tight ends and backs in to block because the line is just not getting it done. Couple that with poor special teams (i.e. field goals) and no run game and you are going to struggle putting points up on the board against a good team in the red zone. Like I said, Denarius Mcghee is going to keep this team afloat but to say that THIS team is good enough to win a National Championship or beat Montana on the road is a stretch. Some problems you just can't fix maybe they should have gone after some J.C. lineman in the offseason too late now.

WOW, all I can say is that your delusion is pretty deep.
OL experience: every game snap they gain, CSU, & Drake really mixed the looks up to confuse them, they adjusted and came through by now they have seen almost every goofy defensive formation anyone can throw at them. SFA is one of the top pass rush teams in the FCS (sack leaders in 2011) and the young pups only allowed 3 sacks, #5 is a true NFL player. We have JC transfers (300 pounders), they are backups and will probably redshirt

McGhee health: been hearing this from you for 3 years now, he just keeps getting bigger stronger and better, he takes a few hits but is very good and makinging them glancing blows.

Special teams: we are 100% in FG's, (hint: you dont kick many when you score TD's when in the redzone) Other than the punt which hit another player and the returner tried to save it I dont really see a problem, in fact they are better this year in coverage and Johnson will take a couple back this year.

#2 and NC hopes: every team has hopes at this time of year, but there is a lot of football yet to be played and still a lot of unknowns, the team you see in November will not be the same as it is now and vise-versa. We all need to let this season play out and enjoy the ride :thumb:
Totally disagree, you guys have been absolutely dominated up front and that won't change this season. Your quarterback has been running for his life for 3 games now-two of those were against jokes and 1 was against a team that will finish in the middle of the pack in the Southland. What's going to happen when you start playing good fronts in the Big Sky? This was not the case last season you guys had a good Senior laden offensive line. Mcghee is taking a lot of shots that he did not take last seasonand I would be worried about that if I was a Cat fan. You won't win a game in the Big Sky without him he is that good. Your field goal team has been left off the field on 4th and 5 or 6 inside the 30 on every attempt I have seen so far. This was not the case last season Carpenter kicked a lot of field goals for you guys at this distance. If I remember correctly he kicked 5 against EWU most from beyond 50 yards. When you start playing good teams this will be a problem for you-not being able to get the 3 is huge in close games (I fear we will have the same problem). Someone obviously doesn't have a lot of faith in your kicking to knock down kicks if you go for it on 4th and 6 inside the 25.
 
grizaremoregooder said:
Cats2506 said:
grizaremoregooder said:
Their problems are not an easy fix. The offensive line is just young and not very good. Teaching technique and form will only get you so far, you can't teach a kid to be bigger, stronger, and older. They can't protect the quarterback or run the ball between the tackles from what I have seen. Denarius Mcghee is the only thing keeping this team going right now. I watched him take 5-6 bad hits last week you can't just keep taking that type of punishment over the course of season and not get banged up. Not clue how healthy he will be after running for his life for an entire season. The cats don't have that long ball threat they had with Akpla like last season and they are having to keep the tight ends and backs in to block because the line is just not getting it done. Couple that with poor special teams (i.e. field goals) and no run game and you are going to struggle putting points up on the board against a good team in the red zone. Like I said, Denarius Mcghee is going to keep this team afloat but to say that THIS team is good enough to win a National Championship or beat Montana on the road is a stretch. Some problems you just can't fix maybe they should have gone after some J.C. lineman in the offseason too late now.

WOW, all I can say is that your delusion is pretty deep.
OL experience: every game snap they gain, CSU, & Drake really mixed the looks up to confuse them, they adjusted and came through by now they have seen almost every goofy defensive formation anyone can throw at them. SFA is one of the top pass rush teams in the FCS (sack leaders in 2011) and the young pups only allowed 3 sacks, #5 is a true NFL player. We have JC transfers (300 pounders), they are backups and will probably redshirt

McGhee health: been hearing this from you for 3 years now, he just keeps getting bigger stronger and better, he takes a few hits but is very good and makinging them glancing blows.

Special teams: we are 100% in FG's, (hint: you dont kick many when you score TD's when in the redzone) Other than the punt which hit another player and the returner tried to save it I dont really see a problem, in fact they are better this year in coverage and Johnson will take a couple back this year.

#2 and NC hopes: every team has hopes at this time of year, but there is a lot of football yet to be played and still a lot of unknowns, the team you see in November will not be the same as it is now and vise-versa. We all need to let this season play out and enjoy the ride :thumb:
Totally disagree, you guys have been absolutely dominated up front and that won't change this season. Your quarterback has been running for his life for 3 games now-two of those were against jokes and 1 was against a team that will finish in the middle of the pack in the Southland. What's going to happen when you start playing good fronts in the Big Sky? This was not the case last season you guys had a good Senior laden offensive line. Mcghee is taking a lot of shots that he did not take last seasonand I would be worried about that if I was a Cat fan. You won't win a game in the Big Sky without him he is that good. Your field goal team has been left off the field on 4th and 5 or 6 inside the 30 on every attempt I have seen so far. This was not the case last season Carpenter kicked a lot of field goals for you guys at this distance. If I remember correctly he kicked 5 against EWU most from beyond 50 yards. When you start playing good teams this will be a problem for you-not being able to get the 3 is huge in close games (I fear we will have the same problem). Someone obviously doesn't have a lot of faith in your kicking to knock down kicks if you go for it on 4th and 6 inside the 25.

Just how F'd up are you, the last guy named Carpenter we had playing for us was a QB not a kicker, I wont even get into the rest of your inaccuracy's

maybe you should comeback and try again when you have your shit straight :lol:
 
wbtfg said:
Just some I'm clear....

A few years ago when UM was ranked in the top 2 or 3 and had close wins against crappy teams (ie Idaho State) that was because UM had a bullseye on their back and opposing teams put out more effort against UM because they were ranked so high. Now that MSU is ranked in the top 2-3 and are winning close games against average/below average teams it's because MSU is overrated?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Please advise....

sounds about right. everyone gets up for the griz but every team the cats play close is terrible and doesn't put any emphasis on beating the #2 team in the country. :clap:
 
ilovethecats said:
wbtfg said:
Just some I'm clear....

A few years ago when UM was ranked in the top 2 or 3 and had close wins against crappy teams (ie Idaho State) that was because UM had a bullseye on their back and opposing teams put out more effort against UM because they were ranked so high. Now that MSU is ranked in the top 2-3 and are winning close games against average/below average teams it's because MSU is overrated?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Please advise....

sounds about right. everyone gets up for the griz but every team the cats play close is terrible and doesn't put any emphasis on beating the #2 team in the country. :clap:

Cat fans have been doing this to Griz fans for years. Kinda funny to watch how butt hurt Cat fans get when the roles are reversed :lol:
 
ilovethecats said:
wbtfg said:
Just some I'm clear....

A few years ago when UM was ranked in the top 2 or 3 and had close wins against crappy teams (ie Idaho State) that was because UM had a bullseye on their back and opposing teams put out more effort against UM because they were ranked so high. Now that MSU is ranked in the top 2-3 and are winning close games against average/below average teams it's because MSU is overrated?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Please advise....

sounds about right. everyone gets up for the griz but every team the cats play close is terrible and doesn't put any emphasis on beating the #2 team in the country. :clap:

The cats just need to prove that they can consistently win those close games. They aren't always going to play perfect and they need to prove that they can have a bad day and still pull out the victory. In the past the cats haven't been able to do that, while the Griz have. Looks like the cats are turning it around this year. Lets see if they can keep it up in conference and the playoffs.
 
br fan said:
ilovethecats said:
wbtfg said:
Just some I'm clear....

A few years ago when UM was ranked in the top 2 or 3 and had close wins against crappy teams (ie Idaho State) that was because UM had a bullseye on their back and opposing teams put out more effort against UM because they were ranked so high. Now that MSU is ranked in the top 2-3 and are winning close games against average/below average teams it's because MSU is overrated?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Please advise....

sounds about right. everyone gets up for the griz but every team the cats play close is terrible and doesn't put any emphasis on beating the #2 team in the country. :clap:

Cat fans have been doing this to Griz fans for years. Kinda funny to watch how butt hurt Cat fans get when the roles are reversed :lol:

not sure who is butt hurt but i agree. the back and forth between fans is pretty funny. every single thing you can say about cat fans i can say about griz fans. and vice versa. but for some reason people like to pretend they're different. funny stuff. serious delusion....
 
ilovethecats said:
br fan said:
ilovethecats said:
wbtfg said:
Just some I'm clear....

A few years ago when UM was ranked in the top 2 or 3 and had close wins against crappy teams (ie Idaho State) that was because UM had a bullseye on their back and opposing teams put out more effort against UM because they were ranked so high. Now that MSU is ranked in the top 2-3 and are winning close games against average/below average teams it's because MSU is overrated?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Please advise....

sounds about right. everyone gets up for the griz but every team the cats play close is terrible and doesn't put any emphasis on beating the #2 team in the country. :clap:

Cat fans have been doing this to Griz fans for years. Kinda funny to watch how butt hurt Cat fans get when the roles are reversed :lol:

not sure who is butt hurt but i agree. the back and forth between fans is pretty funny. every single thing you can say about cat fans i can say about griz fans. and vice versa. but for some reason people like to pretend they're different. funny stuff. serious delusion....

Winner winner chicken dinner!
 
ilovethecats said:
br fan said:
ilovethecats said:
wbtfg said:
Just some I'm clear....

A few years ago when UM was ranked in the top 2 or 3 and had close wins against crappy teams (ie Idaho State) that was because UM had a bullseye on their back and opposing teams put out more effort against UM because they were ranked so high. Now that MSU is ranked in the top 2-3 and are winning close games against average/below average teams it's because MSU is overrated?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Please advise....

sounds about right. everyone gets up for the griz but every team the cats play close is terrible and doesn't put any emphasis on beating the #2 team in the country. :clap:

Cat fans have been doing this to Griz fans for years. Kinda funny to watch how butt hurt Cat fans get when the roles are reversed :lol:

not sure who is butt hurt but i agree. the back and forth between fans is pretty funny. every single thing you can say about cat fans i can say about griz fans. and vice versa. but for some reason people like to pretend they're different. funny stuff. serious delusion....

ILTC my post wasn't necessarily addressed at you, but more at Cat fans in general. I agree completely with your post, and I did do what fans of both schools are guilty of, which is lumping what all Cat fans think based on what a couple fans may say. I actually think you are one of the most rational posters on the board.

But I am enjoying the role reversal between the Cats and the Griz year, and watching Cat fans being in the position that Griz fans have been in for years, which is responding to claims that the Cats are overrated. Cat fans are not used to being in that position, and can really only respond in one of two ways: (1) admit they're overrated; or (2) defend the ranking with the usual "we've played best DII team, non-scholarship team, and the best front 7 we'll face all year" arguments. I have the feeling this is going to go on all year, and I think we'll see most Cat fans end up arguing both positions at different times depending on the situation. We're already seeing the "remember what the Griz did in (insert year, game or situation, as the case may be) argument. As a Griz fan I'm kind of enjoying not having to constantly defend the Griz ranking, while watching Cat fans squirm defending theirs. :mrgreen:
 
good post. i rarely get involved in the back and forth but rather sit back and enjoy the show if you will. arguing cat-griz is every bit as dumb as arguing republican-democrat. some will be of the opinion that their party/team can never do anything wrong ever. others are smart enough to call it like they see it. in this case here's how i see it....

cat griz is a great rivalry but one that some fans take WAY too seriously. i am convinced there are people out there who if they saw fans of the "other" team stranded on the side of the road they wouldn't stop and help because of the hate. it's asinine to me. i have been through real-life tragedy and i'm not about to get caught up in nonsense because i love the cats. that said, i love the back and forth that goes on and i never mind seeing the griz lose. but there are far bigger things in my life than whether the cats win on saturdays...

as for this year i have a few thoughts. i like our team this year. we had nearly every player on the roster stick around this summer and i love that. i appreciate the #2 ranking but it's not like there was an auction and crazy cat fans put up the most money to get that spot. it's a ranking. it's fun but pointless. you don't have to remind me when we were #1 and got smashed by 3 td's at home. however, i would love to keep our ranking around #2 for the purpose of playoff seeding and i think that is reasonable. as to whether we're the 2nd best team in the country.....i have no idea. we certainly haven't played like it but you don't get a trophy for being 2nd. especially being 2nd in september. that said, if all the pieces fall in place and make the championship or even win the damn thing....i guess we can look back on september 20th and say we were at least the 2nd best team. it means nothing.

i think many fans look at things the same way i do. but there are always going to be those that don't. i have no doubt some cat fans are giddy right now and think we're the best thing since sliced bread. i don't speak for them. just because a guy lives in bozeman or likes the cats doesn't mean we're the same. if we were, you'd never see bar fights and every person in missoula would love eachother because you're all griz. don't think you have to look any farther than this board to see that ALL griz fans certainly aren't the same. :lol:

i think some of the things i've read about the cats are both true and false. our line is our weakest link no doubt. but to say they can't improve as the season goes on is silly. they alreasy look much better than against chadron. and while they are smaller than the griz line that is huge, they stack up pretty good with most o-lines in the conference. but i think most cat fans are aware that our last two playoff exits were do in large part to very poor line play on both sides of the ball.

i also disagree with the idea that mcghee has been running for his life. he's an athletic qb and if his reads aren't there he'll use his feet. but i think some are mistaking his scrambling for running for his life which i don't think is fair. clearly our line can always give him more time, but i don't think they are hurting us in this regard as much as some people have claimed.

bottom line is we haven't even started league play yet. we have no idea what our teams are going to look like in 2 months. but no doubt they will be filled with back and forth jibberish about who lost by more, which fans were loudest, who's team is faking injuries, and how much better "my" team is than "your" team. :roll:
 
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