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How to get back to winning the in-state recruiting war

monte is a character said:
Raider said:
Nothing yet?

Shocker.......
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Look asshole. I don't appreciate you condescending jerk-like attitude and petty name calling. If you want to have a conversation with me, act like an adult. Otherwise GFY.
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Yeah, asshole, he doesn't appreciate the petty name calling. :lol: :lol:
 
wbtfg said:
Don't necessarily agree. I remember when Kramer first started there were some kids accepting a partial scholarship to um over a full ride from msu. Because of that Kramer tried the pr battle of saying he'd never offer a partial scholarship, as that was a slap in the face to some really good montana players. In reality, he stopped offering partial because he'd lose all of those battles to um.

On a personal note, back in the early 2000s, i traveled across the state, and i would rarely ever see msu license plates or people wearing msu apparel.

Now, im not suggesting msu is dominating the instate recruiting battles, but we are now mostly even. Some years we win more in state battles, some years we lose more. That's a huge improvement from 10-15 years ago.
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We are getting our asses kicked in-state by MSU. But the hacks on here will never admit it. All you have to do is compare the number of starters from Montana on our team, and the number on the Cats. It isn't even close. We used to have a minimum of 6-10 starters from Montana among the 22 starters every year. Now, we are lucky to have 2-3. It's so freakin' obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the hacks live in denial 100% of the time.
 
monte is a character said:
wbtfg said:
Don't necessarily agree. I remember when Kramer first started there were some kids accepting a partial scholarship to um over a full ride from msu. Because of that Kramer tried the pr battle of saying he'd never offer a partial scholarship, as that was a slap in the face to some really good montana players. In reality, he stopped offering partial because he'd lose all of those battles to um.

On a personal note, back in the early 2000s, i traveled across the state, and i would rarely ever see msu license plates or people wearing msu apparel.

Now, im not suggesting msu is dominating the instate recruiting battles, but we are now mostly even. Some years we win more in state battles, some years we lose more. That's a huge improvement from 10-15 years ago.
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We are getting our asses kicked in-state by MSU. But the hacks on here will never admit it. All you have to do is compare the number of starters from Montana on our team, and the number on the Cats. It isn't even close. We used to have a minimum of 6-10 starters from Montana among the 22 starters every year. Now, we are lucky to have 2-3. It's so freakin' obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the hacks live in denial 100% of the time.
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You've been saying this but when asked to give proof and show how badly the Griz are "getting their ass kicked" by MSU you don't give evidence.

Can you? I'd like to see what facts you're basing this on rather than just conjecture.
 
BWahlberg said:
monte is a character said:
wbtfg said:
Don't necessarily agree. I remember when Kramer first started there were some kids accepting a partial scholarship to um over a full ride from msu. Because of that Kramer tried the pr battle of saying he'd never offer a partial scholarship, as that was a slap in the face to some really good montana players. In reality, he stopped offering partial because he'd lose all of those battles to um.

On a personal note, back in the early 2000s, i traveled across the state, and i would rarely ever see msu license plates or people wearing msu apparel.

Now, im not suggesting msu is dominating the instate recruiting battles, but we are now mostly even. Some years we win more in state battles, some years we lose more. That's a huge improvement from 10-15 years ago.
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We are getting our asses kicked in-state by MSU. But the hacks on here will never admit it. All you have to do is compare the number of starters from Montana on our team, and the number on the Cats. It isn't even close. We used to have a minimum of 6-10 starters from Montana among the 22 starters every year. Now, we are lucky to have 2-3. It's so freakin' obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the hacks live in denial 100% of the time.
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You've been saying this but when asked to give proof and show how badly the Griz are "getting their ass kicked" by MSU you don't give evidence.

Can you? I'd like to see what facts you're basing this on rather than just conjecture.
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I agree with Brint here for sure. Wolfman sometimes says things as if they were fact and scoffs and those who don't agree with him.
For example wolfman insists that we are incestuous when hiring coaches but when I ask for examples of this he doesn't give any. I guess he didn't like the fact that Hauck, Glenn, Dennehey and Delaney all had previous ties to the university and football in the NW.
 
monte is a character said:
wbtfg said:
Don't necessarily agree. I remember when Kramer first started there were some kids accepting a partial scholarship to um over a full ride from msu. Because of that Kramer tried the pr battle of saying he'd never offer a partial scholarship, as that was a slap in the face to some really good montana players. In reality, he stopped offering partial because he'd lose all of those battles to um.

On a personal note, back in the early 2000s, i traveled across the state, and i would rarely ever see msu license plates or people wearing msu apparel.

Now, im not suggesting msu is dominating the instate recruiting battles, but we are now mostly even. Some years we win more in state battles, some years we lose more. That's a huge improvement from 10-15 years ago.
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We are getting our asses kicked in-state by MSU. But the hacks on here will never admit it. All you have to do is compare the number of starters from Montana on our team, and the number on the Cats. It isn't even close. We used to have a minimum of 6-10 starters from Montana among the 22 starters every year. Now, we are lucky to have 2-3. It's so freakin' obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the hacks live in denial 100% of the time.
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So is your point that Montana kids are better players than kids from other states, so it is important to get more? Griz football would win more games with 6 more Montana kids? I know people enjoy seeing Montana kids, but your argument is poppycock...
 
BWahlberg said:
monte is a character said:
wbtfg said:
Don't necessarily agree. I remember when Kramer first started there were some kids accepting a partial scholarship to um over a full ride from msu. Because of that Kramer tried the pr battle of saying he'd never offer a partial scholarship, as that was a slap in the face to some really good montana players. In reality, he stopped offering partial because he'd lose all of those battles to um.

On a personal note, back in the early 2000s, i traveled across the state, and i would rarely ever see msu license plates or people wearing msu apparel.

Now, im not suggesting msu is dominating the instate recruiting battles, but we are now mostly even. Some years we win more in state battles, some years we lose more. That's a huge improvement from 10-15 years ago.
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We are getting our asses kicked in-state by MSU. But the hacks on here will never admit it. All you have to do is compare the number of starters from Montana on our team, and the number on the Cats. It isn't even close. We used to have a minimum of 6-10 starters from Montana among the 22 starters every year. Now, we are lucky to have 2-3. It's so freakin' obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the hacks live in denial 100% of the time.
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You've been saying this but when asked to give proof and show how badly the Griz are "getting their ass kicked" by MSU you don't give evidence.

Can you? I'd like to see what facts you're basing this on rather than just conjecture.
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When he first started (as "monte the character") pissing and moaning about "getting our asses kicked in-state" recruiting, it was about DELANEY getting HIS ass kicked on in-state recruiting. So, I produced a list of OUR Montana boys recruited by Delaney, and MSU's Montana boys recruited by Ash. I asked mtc which ones of those Montana boys (besides obviously Brekke) was he so hot on, which ones were the stars that we'd missed, and which ones were the specific examples of us "getting our ass kicked in-state". His answer was something to the effect of "well nobody knows about THOSE recruits because they're all too young yet to know whether they'll make an impact", which obviously made my point exactly (much to his dismay, I'm sure)....so I see that NOW he's changed his argument (which losers of discussions usually do) to them having more STARTERS from Montana than we do, which obviously isn't a "Mick" problem, since Mick hasn't been here long enough to have recruited many players who are currently starting.

Apparently Wags, Kidder, Rehm, Crittenden, Thiebes, Weyer, Dallaserra, Burke, Peevy or Harris don't count. All of whom start (or did, in Kidder's case) or are in the 2-deep rotation and see extensive playing time.
 
monte is a character said:
wbtfg said:
Don't necessarily agree. I remember when Kramer first started there were some kids accepting a partial scholarship to um over a full ride from msu. Because of that Kramer tried the pr battle of saying he'd never offer a partial scholarship, as that was a slap in the face to some really good montana players. In reality, he stopped offering partial because he'd lose all of those battles to um.

On a personal note, back in the early 2000s, i traveled across the state, and i would rarely ever see msu license plates or people wearing msu apparel.

Now, im not suggesting msu is dominating the instate recruiting battles, but we are now mostly even. Some years we win more in state battles, some years we lose more. That's a huge improvement from 10-15 years ago.
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We are getting our asses kicked in-state by MSU. But the hacks on here will never admit it. All you have to do is compare the number of starters from Montana on our team, and the number on the Cats. It isn't even close. We used to have a minimum of 6-10 starters from Montana among the 22 starters every year. Now, we are lucky to have 2-3. It's so freakin' obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the hacks live in denial 100% of the time.
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Who does Zach Wagzzzz play for again???

Good to see you're still a raging pessimistic douche!
 
When the game is played Saturday there will be ONE player on the field that will be playing on Sundays next year...he is from Montana, and he wears maroon.......Monte is a douche just needs to STFU
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
When the game is played Saturday there will be ONE player on the field that will be playing on Sundays next year...he is from Montana, and he wears maroon.......Monte is a douche just needs to STFU
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Colter put out a good story on Wagenmann this week.

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grizindabox said:
monte is a character said:
wbtfg said:
Don't necessarily agree. I remember when Kramer first started there were some kids accepting a partial scholarship to um over a full ride from msu. Because of that Kramer tried the pr battle of saying he'd never offer a partial scholarship, as that was a slap in the face to some really good montana players. In reality, he stopped offering partial because he'd lose all of those battles to um.

On a personal note, back in the early 2000s, i traveled across the state, and i would rarely ever see msu license plates or people wearing msu apparel.

Now, im not suggesting msu is dominating the instate recruiting battles, but we are now mostly even. Some years we win more in state battles, some years we lose more. That's a huge improvement from 10-15 years ago.
Click to expand...

We are getting our asses kicked in-state by MSU. But the hacks on here will never admit it. All you have to do is compare the number of starters from Montana on our team, and the number on the Cats. It isn't even close. We used to have a minimum of 6-10 starters from Montana among the 22 starters every year. Now, we are lucky to have 2-3. It's so freakin' obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the hacks live in denial 100% of the time.
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So is your point that Montana kids are better players than kids from other states, so it is important to get more? Griz football would win more games with 6 more Montana kids? I know people enjoy seeing Montana kids, but your argument is poppycock...
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Monte's football acumen is good but this issue is some what of a Red Herring. Fighting over
high school football players from Montana is kinda wasted effort. The state rarely produces much FBS talent and it's FCS talent is lean at times too. So what are the Griz losing to the Cats, like one player per year, in a bad year? It's a non-issue IMO. Get your feet on the street in So. Cal and clean up down there...BTW, Justin has done a good job in that respect recently.
 
2010: 5 offensive starters from Montana (Reynolds, Gratton, Verlanic, Selle, Hardy) and 2 defensive starters (Tripp and Waldhauser), for a total of 7
2011: 2 offensive starters from Montana (Gratton, Hardy) and 3 defensive (Tripp, Waldhauser and Featherston) for a total of 5
2012: 3 offensive starters (Gratton, Hardy, Carver) and 4 defensive (Harris, Wagenmann, Stuberg & Tripp)
2013: 1 offensive starter (Pierson) and 4 defensive (Wags, Tripp, Coyle, Kidder)
2014: 3 offensive starters (Jansenn, Weyer, Theibes) and 3 defensive (Wags, Kidder, Rehm)

So, 7, 5, 7, 5 and 6 in the last 5 years.

2015: Kidder, Crittenden, Dallaserra, Thiebes, Weyer, Harris, Peevey, with Gustafson, Burke, Janssen, Schye and Horner also possible starters or seeing considerable playing time.
 
After two straight years of cat ass kicking, I would say we are winning the instate recruiting battle and it will only get better with new lockers/weight training room, not to mention starting next season on ESPN. Two down, 15 to go to break the 16 in row record.
 
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