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How the Dakota's Recruit...

HelenaHandBasket said:
Griz can't recruit everywhere. As for comparing Missoula to Fargo or Brookings, do you think kids that grow up in the Midwest have an overall issue with the landscape?
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They don't, if they don't know better. Watch the video in the Dawn Gillman - Eli (Minnesota) to Montana thread and she will answer your question.
 
5280Griz said:
If they are from the cities it’s 3 hours drive to Brookings or Fargo, it is 17 hours drive to Missoula. There is 1 daily 3 hour flight on Delta that often costs $500 or more round trip.
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Yet I had five kids from Minnesota on my floor when I attended UM in the late 80s and that was before the internet. They either had family in Missoula or local area, or they had parents who had attended UM, or they came out on a visit to Glacier Park and fell in love with the area. Speaking of Glacier Park, 15 years ago when I visited and did the Glacier NP & Yellowstone NP tour of duty with the kids, I swear 80% of the cars in GNP had a Minnesota license plate. There's a reason MSU recruits Minnesota students heavily and enthusiastically.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Meh I disagree . Fargo has a fantastic downtown and is overall a nicer town. Cheaper and nicer homes. Very little homelessness. Significantly better jobs.

Missoula is a better place to vacation in, but live and make a living , it is Fargo.
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Meh I disagree. Missoula has way more to do for college students and it has a hometown feel. Fargo feels like a suburb built off an interstate with no character. Might as well be a suburb of Moorhead.
 
Wolf777 said:
People should tell NDSU they will never win if they don’t have predominantly ND players. 🙄

Those people should then take a look at the demographic of players on NDSU, UND and SDSU and see the recruiting areas that pop up over and over again.
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They should also look at the player development. Who is their strength coach and what the hell are they doing? Whatever it is - replicate it. Especially on the lines.
 
Been harping on this forever. NDSU has had a strategy of recruiting FBS talent players in adjoining states, pitching to parents they may start as sophomores and parents can drive comfortably to every game. They already have tuition reciprocity so the "cost" of a scholarship is the same as an instate recruit. Go check their recruitment freshmen classes and see how many have FBS offers. Plus the Gophers were perennial doormats in Big Ten. Want your kid to play for a champ or a doormat? That's the NDSU way that is now copied by all the ND and SD schools.
 
Copper Griz said:
They should also look at the player development. Who is their strength coach and what the hell are they doing? Whatever it is - replicate it. Especially on the lines.
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It’s been discussed post brawl, but there is clearly things that have been taken from that program and replicated at MSU. The interesting thing to me is that it hasn’t exactly translated to FBS from previous coaches. Don’t get me wrong, Bohl and Kleiman have had success at Wyoming and Kansas State (Entz is too early in his tenure to tell), but not dominance. I have questions as to why that is, but regardless it does seem that Bobby has now moved on from coaches in certain positions so it’s fair to question if the development program needs to be re evaluated. Do we need to focus dollars and energy to poach a coach/trainer from that NDSU tree?
 
Copper Griz said:
They should also look at the player development. Who is their strength coach and what the hell are they doing? Whatever it is - replicate it. Especially on the lines.
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It's not just physical development aka strength coach, it's also the mental development. Vigen alluded to it in one of his post game press conferences.

It's also their training table (nutrition program).
 
Wolf777 said:
It’s been discussed post brawl, but there is clearly things that have been taken from that program and replicated at MSU. The interesting thing to me is that it hasn’t exactly translated to FBS from previous coaches. Don’t get me wrong, Bohl and Kleiman have had success at Wyoming and Kansas State (Entz is too early in his tenure to tell), but not dominance. I have questions as to why that is, but regardless it does seem that Bobby has now moved on from coaches in certain positions so it’s fair to question if the development program needs to be re evaluated. Do we need to focus dollars and energy to poach a coach/trainer from that NDSU tree?
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I would take someone from their strength training tree who has worked at another school.
 
GriznMN said:
It's not just physical development aka strength coach, it's also the mental development. Vigen alluded to it in one of his post game press conferences.

It's also their training table (nutrition program).
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I cannot argue on bit. MSU came into Wa Griz and they did not look or act intimated. It was not the MSU of old. The Cats would inevitably fold at key points in the game in past years. They are mentally tough. Does that mean the Griz aren’t. No. Can the Griz beat them. Absolutely. They were really one or two mistakes away from doing just that. The programs are pretty evenly matched. NDSU - now that may be a different story. This year seems like they are beatable. We shall see as the Griz run the gauntlet.
 
Jim Kramer has been NDSU’s strength coach since 2004. He was the strength coach for all NDSU championships and NFL players during the FCS era.
 
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