Hopefully Good Enrollment News....

[grizpsych]

Applications are up 123% compared to the same timeframe last year. In other words, the application trend has increased greatly. What that will do to upcoming enrollment is yet to be seen but all those apps are promising.

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

I’ll take any increase.....at all. She said the acceptance rate is also up 300+ percent. Both encouraging trends.

Oh yeah. Me too. I was just trying to get people to understand the actual numbers. A three fold increase in acceptance is nice. But, have they changed their standards?

 

[Grisly Fan]

Wait! Application % is up 123% (according to Keila) but enrollment is down 7.6%? huh? As mark Twain said:"there are lies, damned lies and Statistics"

Applications are up 123% compared to the same timeframe last year. In other words, the application trend has increased greatly. What that will do to upcoming enrollment is yet to be seen but all those apps are promising.

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

 

[signedbewildered]

Wait! Application % is up 123% (according to Keila) but enrollment is down 7.6%? huh? As mark Twain said:"there are lies, damned lies and Statistics"

Applications are up 123% compared to the same timeframe last year. In other words, the application trend has increased greatly. What that will do to upcoming enrollment is yet to be seen but all those apps are promising.

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

Huh? Did I read it wrong? I'm seeing it as more than doubling. Doubling and almost another quarter to boot. What am I missing?

Mathing is hard.

 

[grizpsych]

Applications are up 123% compared to the same timeframe last year. In other words, the application trend has increased greatly. What that will do to upcoming enrollment is yet to be seen but all those apps are promising.

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

 

[signedbewildered]

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Someone is incredibly wrong now I'm curious to know who. I'm seriously terrible at math and apparently I've been mistaken my whole life what 100 percent increase means.

Either way an increase is an increase and in my mind I'd like to believe the application requests more than doubled.

 

[grizpsych]

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Someone is incredibly wrong now I'm curious to know who. I'm seriously terrible at math and apparently I've been mistaken my whole life what 100 percent increase means.

Either way an increase is an increase and in my mind I'd like to believe the application requests more than doubled.

It is not that hard. Last year's number of applications (say 1000) is the starting reference. Thus, if this year was the same number of applications, that would be 100% of last years applications. Here we are given that current applications are 123% of last years applications, Thus, 1.23 X 1000. You use proportions when actually calculating the raw numbers. I know this because I literally teach statistics.

Of course, no one has to believe me, or Google, or the other link I edited into my post. And regardless, this is great news! I hope that most applicants are from out of state or international students.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Wait! Application % is up 123% (according to Keila) but enrollment is down 7.6%? huh? As mark Twain said:"there are lies, damned lies and Statistics"

Applications are up 123% compared to the same timeframe last year. In other words, the application trend has increased greatly. What that will do to upcoming enrollment is yet to be seen but all those apps are promising.

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

Lets assume we would be taking around 3K applications a year with 91% acceptance which would lead to about 2700 freshman a year. that number gets smaller as you have drop outs throughout the years. So if applications are up 123% that's almost 700 more applications if we increase acceptance you have to figure we would have a incoming class of around 3500 freshman or so incoming. That is a 800 student increase. If we stayed at that number for 4 years. After those 4 years enrollment would be around 10500. Assuming the current Drop out rate of about 15% per year from the original freshman enrollment number. so if we assume linear regression(which is probably not accurate but its all I have to go off of) 3500 freshman, 2975 soph, 2100 Juniors and 1925 Seniors would be enrolled after 4 years. Add that to grad students ect. and its a good increase. Now these numbers are probably not accurate but the idea is still the same that 123% increase does not look huge when you look at one individual year but if we were able to carry just that same amount...basically keep a level enrollment at that point. we would be increasing substantially.

 

[grizpsych]

Applications are up 123% compared to the same timeframe last year. In other words, the application trend has increased greatly. What that will do to upcoming enrollment is yet to be seen but all those apps are promising.

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

Lets assume we would be taking around 3K applications a year with 91% acceptance which would lead to about 2700 freshman a year. that number gets smaller as you have drop outs throughout the years. So if applications are up 123% that's almost 700 more applications if we increase acceptance you have to figure we would have a incoming class of around 3500 freshman or so incoming. That is a 800 student increase. If we stayed at that number for 4 years. After those 4 years enrollment would be around 10500. Assuming the current Drop out rate of about 15% per year from the original freshman enrollment number. so if we assume linear regression(which is probably not accurate but its all I have to go off of) 3500 freshman, 2975 soph, 2100 Juniors and 1925 Seniors would be enrolled after 4 years. Add that to grad students ect. and its a good increase. Now these numbers are probably not accurate but the idea is still the same that 123% increase does not look huge when you look at one individual year but if we were able to carry just that same amount...basically keep a level enrollment at that point. we would be increasing substantially.

Good analysis. Though I would change drop out rate to its inverse retention rate (85% in your example). One thing that offsets drop outs are transfer students. The really astounding number number that I would like to see is the amount of money change. Taking your 800 more students and using 10,000 dollars per year in tuition and fees (an underestimate for sure), that is 8 million more dollars next year than this year UM will bring in.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I think most of us get it. I'm just simply AMAZED at that large of an increase if accurate. Makes me worry someone forgot to use a decimal point. Or that they sent out 123 percent more and not just received.

You gotta admit that's very encouraging.

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero more. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

 

[hilinegrizfan]

:ditto: carry the 2...

 

[grizpsych]

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Oh good. So you out of all people know that statisticians never mean increase in the way you are meaning it. Plus, the original post says that application are up 123% from last year. The reference is last year. I guarantee that the tweet meant 123% of last year's applications. Your post grad training should make you smart enough to understand that.
[media]https://twitter.com/KeilaSzpaller/status/1050509940589178880[/media]

Edit: As for insults. Maybe you reread your first reply to me. It's obvious you have no idea how much math a Cognitive Psychologist/Scientist actually uses every single day.

 

[Grisly Fan]

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Oh good. So you out of all people know that statisticians never mean increase in the way you are meaning it. Plus, the original post says that application are up 123% from last year. The reference is last year. I guarantee that "the friend" meant 123% of last year's applications. Your post grad training should make you smart enough to understand that.

Edit: As for insults. Maybe you reread your first reply to me. It's obvious you have no idea how much math a Cognitive Psychologist/Scientist actually uses every single day.

The first line of the article in the Missoulian is "The University of Montana has drawn 123 percent more applications from prospective students this year than it did last year at the same time, according to a UM vice president."

I sure can't know that they actually meant 23% more when it said 123% more. Apparently you are better at reading between the lines than I am.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Huh? If 1000 people applied last year, then this year it would be 1230. That isn't a huge increase in raw number of students.

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero more. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Ill have to agree, a statistician would not say increase in that fashion as they are using 100% as the baseline of what they are making the judgement off off. So no matter if you say they had a 23% increase or increase of 123% ...the result is the same. In stats a 200% increase is a double of your baseline which is 100%. Much like if you are operating a business and you are 123% to your goal. That means you grew business by 23 total percent above the goal. Nobody is really wrong here you guys are just talking in different forms.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Oh good. So you out of all people know that statisticians never mean increase in the way you are meaning it. Plus, the original post says that application are up 123% from last year. The reference is last year. I guarantee that "the friend" meant 123% of last year's applications. Your post grad training should make you smart enough to understand that.

Edit: As for insults. Maybe you reread your first reply to me. It's obvious you have no idea how much math a Cognitive Psychologist/Scientist actually uses every single day.

The first line of the article in the Missoulian is "The University of Montana has drawn 123 percent more applications from prospective students this year than it did last year at the same time, according to a UM vice president."

I sure can't know that they actually meant 23% more when it said 123% more. Apparently you are better at reading between the lines than I am.

if you see a headline that reads... google stock up 123%, what do you think? its the same thing...not sure where you are lost...its pretty basic math and comprehension.

 

[grizpsych]

A piece of unsolicited advice: Stick with psychology. Your math is wanting. A 123% INCREASE would be more than double what they had previously. If you think of it this way then it is easier to comprehend. If they had 100 people apply last year and saw a 100% increase then there were 200 people that applied or in this case it would be 223 people that applied (100% + 23%). This is definitely a significant increase.

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero more. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Ill have to agree, a statistician would not say increase in that fashion as they are using 100% as the baseline of what they are making the judgement off off. So no matter if you say they had a 23% increase or increase of 123% ...the result is the same. In stats a 200% increase is a double of your baseline which is 100%. Much like if you are operating a business and you are 123% to your goal. That means you grew business by 23 total percent above the goal. Nobody is really wrong here you guys are just talking in different forms.

No GrislyFan actually thinks there might be more than double the amount of Freshman on Campus next year than this year.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I stand by my statement. 123% more means 100% + 123% or 223% of the original. If what they meant was 23% more than last year then that is what they should/would have said.

 

[grizpsych]

I stand by my statement. 123% more means 100% + 123% or 223% of the original. If what they meant was 23% more than last year then that is what they should/would have said.

If the number of Freshman at UM next year is even close to twice as many Freshman at UM this year. I will publicly apologize to you and buy you whatever drink you want. :thumb:

 

[Grisly Fan]

How about you pick up a calculator and type 1.23 X 1000 and see what it equals. Or, you can Google what is 123% of 1000 and it will give you the answer. Here, I'll make it easier for you.

http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+123%25+of+1000

You dumb ahole!

Edit: Some further reading for you to educate yourself on third grade math.

https://www.geteasysolution.com/what-is-123-percent-of-1000

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero more. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Ill have to agree, a statistician would not say increase in that fashion as they are using 100% as the baseline of what they are making the judgement off off. So no matter if you say they had a 23% increase or increase of 123% ...the result is the same. In stats a 200% increase is a double of your baseline which is 100%. Much like if you are operating a business and you are 123% to your goal. That means you grew business by 23 total percent above the goal. Nobody is really wrong here you guys are just talking in different forms.

No GrislyFan actually thinks there might be more than double the amount of Freshman on Campus next year than this year.

Its not what I think, it is what they article says in plain English. If the article is mistaken then that isn't my problem. And besides, it says a 123% more applications and if true that doesn't necessarily mean 123% more freshman. They all would certainly not be accepted -- or maybe they would? No insight there.

 

[grizpsych]

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero more. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Ill have to agree, a statistician would not say increase in that fashion as they are using 100% as the baseline of what they are making the judgement off off. So no matter if you say they had a 23% increase or increase of 123% ...the result is the same. In stats a 200% increase is a double of your baseline which is 100%. Much like if you are operating a business and you are 123% to your goal. That means you grew business by 23 total percent above the goal. Nobody is really wrong here you guys are just talking in different forms.

No GrislyFan actually thinks there might be more than double the amount of Freshman on Campus next year than this year.

Its not what I think, it is what they article says in plain English. If the article is mistaken then that isn't my problem. And besides, it says a 123% more applications and if true that doesn't necessarily mean 123% more freshman. They all would certainly not be accepted -- or maybe they would? No insight there.

If acceptance rate remains the same then number of Freshman would more than double by your reasoning. So, my offer from my other post stands. Best.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

I could cite my post-graduate math education but you wouldn't believe it (or even care) anyway. The operative word is INCREASE. By your logic, a 100% INCREASE over 100 would be zero more. WRONG! I take back my statement. Your math is fine. It is your English comprehension that is broken. And I will refrain from childish insults.

Ill have to agree, a statistician would not say increase in that fashion as they are using 100% as the baseline of what they are making the judgement off off. So no matter if you say they had a 23% increase or increase of 123% ...the result is the same. In stats a 200% increase is a double of your baseline which is 100%. Much like if you are operating a business and you are 123% to your goal. That means you grew business by 23 total percent above the goal. Nobody is really wrong here you guys are just talking in different forms.

No GrislyFan actually thinks there might be more than double the amount of Freshman on Campus next year than this year.

Its not what I think, it is what they article says in plain English. If the article is mistaken then that isn't my problem. And besides, it says a 123% more applications and if true that doesn't necessarily mean 123% more freshman. They all would certainly not be accepted -- or maybe they would? No insight there.

That's not what it says at all. 100% of 10 is still 10. thats basic basic math in 5th grade probably earlier now a days. so if 100% of 10 is 10 than 123 percent is not over double. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: