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High School Needs Shot clock
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milehighgriz
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I watch a lot of basketball at all levels. I enjoy high school basketball, but changes definitely need to be made. For one, the shot clock is a must. I have seen too many games this year where talented teams are winning without scoring 40 points. Just the other night I saw a team play the Dean Smith four corners offense with 4 minutes left and only a 5 point lead. It is frustrating to watch and frustrating to play. The slow down approach used to only be used when teams not as talented slowed down the pace, which is a good strategy. When I see talented team slow the ball and not take shots, it is a waste of talent. The lack of a shot clock is being taking advatage.
Also, I would like to see 10 minute quarters; 8 minute quarters are way to short of games.
Also, I would like to see 10 minute quarters; 8 minute quarters are way to short of games.
I was reading the book Archie and Peyton Manning wrote and Archie's wife was talking about watching Archie play in a bvasketball tournament in high school.....said the final score of the game was 6-2......talk about stalling
Explosive 1
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There are some great memories because of the lack of shot clock in H.S. ball.
I loved Keller and his Helena High Bengals at state a couple years ago playing the Hellgate Knights. Hellgate went to a zone because they couldn't stop Andy Brown. Keller just had his kids pull it out to half court and wait for Hellgate to come out of the zone.
Seth Jameson sat with the ball on his hip for about 4 minutes.
Hays and Keller just stood and stared at each other, waiting....waiting...waiting....finally Hays broke and came out of the zone....Andy Brown got a lay-up.
It was just awesome to see two great coaches just stare each other down.
Another good one was supplied to me by Wes Appelt.
Wes played on the great MCPS teams back when Lou Roucheleau(sp?) was coaching. Thats back when Sentinel was the only Missoula school. Anyway, he said that a team went into a stall against them in the first quarter. So his coach pulled all of his starters and sat them on the bench, ordered them all popcorn and had them sit there until the other team came out of the stall.
Great story to hear from someone who was there, just thought I might share a couple ancedotes.
I loved Keller and his Helena High Bengals at state a couple years ago playing the Hellgate Knights. Hellgate went to a zone because they couldn't stop Andy Brown. Keller just had his kids pull it out to half court and wait for Hellgate to come out of the zone.
Seth Jameson sat with the ball on his hip for about 4 minutes.
Hays and Keller just stood and stared at each other, waiting....waiting...waiting....finally Hays broke and came out of the zone....Andy Brown got a lay-up.
It was just awesome to see two great coaches just stare each other down.
Another good one was supplied to me by Wes Appelt.
Wes played on the great MCPS teams back when Lou Roucheleau(sp?) was coaching. Thats back when Sentinel was the only Missoula school. Anyway, he said that a team went into a stall against them in the first quarter. So his coach pulled all of his starters and sat them on the bench, ordered them all popcorn and had them sit there until the other team came out of the stall.
Great story to hear from someone who was there, just thought I might share a couple ancedotes.
ronangrizfan
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When I was a freshman in high school, we finished second in our conference with two losses - both times to a team that matched up very well against our run and shoot offense; they had bigger guys in the paint that could move up and down the floor and forced us to shoot from the perimeter with a great match-up zone. I should point out this was back in Feb. '76 - no three point line in MT. So there we were ready to take them on again for the district tourney championship.....had to find a different plan of attack. We went with D. Smith's four corner offense..eight to ten of us could handle the ball no problem....so we patiently looked to attack - bring up a post man to free throw line and makes cuts, etc. Did this all night long and won by 8-10 points as I recall. Granted, it was low-scoring, but I recall many saying the intensity level of that game matched any double overtime thriller where both teams were over 100 pts. each.
High school isn't ready for a shot clock. You got a five second closely guarded rule; there's innovative schemes such as traps, half-court presses; box and one's, etc. Let 'em play.
High school isn't ready for a shot clock. You got a five second closely guarded rule; there's innovative schemes such as traps, half-court presses; box and one's, etc. Let 'em play.
Explosive 1
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Hey sweetwyne, you know you're the love of my life and I'm not disagreeing with you on this, just thought I'd add a couple of insightful stories.
It was entertaining to watch the two coaches just stare each other down for the entire four minutes. The chemistry was electric, like a great chess match. Keller vs. Hays, very fun game to watch as was most of their meetings.
It was entertaining to watch the two coaches just stare each other down for the entire four minutes. The chemistry was electric, like a great chess match. Keller vs. Hays, very fun game to watch as was most of their meetings.
msla35
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As far as the high school game, I definitly agree that 10 minute quarters are necessary. If you have watched high school basketball lately you may have noticed that some games have only spanned a mere 70 minutes. With football games going for 150 minutes, shouldn't we give them a mere 8 more minutes to play. I for one play high school basketball and would welcome the change not only for more ball, but also for more stats
hoop_fan987
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i would have to agree that a shot clock is defenitely needed. for the few basketball games (high school) that i have watched this year, almost every one went into a stall situation whether it was for a minute or 5 minutes. its boring and a shot clock would be good i think. i also think that 10 minute quarters would be a good idea. it would contribute to many things, and make the games more interesting in my opinion.
I don't think we need a shot clock. I have seen plenty of high school basketball. In the majority of cases, most teams play each other without the stall. About six years ago, I witnessed Centerville pull out Dean Smith's four corners. I felt it was fun to watch. Although it would get old if it was every night.
In most cases, I feel the stall is hard to run. We are talking about high school kids. In most cases, there is a foul or turnover before the first 45 seconds.
In most cases, I feel the stall is hard to run. We are talking about high school kids. In most cases, there is a foul or turnover before the first 45 seconds.
hoop_fan987
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Brogriz, thats not true at all. there are many teams today at the high school level that could stall, and a shot clock is very much needed.
