This is a good read and puts everything into focus well
https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1196835668183441408
https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1196835668183441408
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Hero Sports Take on the Big Game, Seeds, Etc
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Griz win and would likely be a 3 seed. They have stronger resume than JMU in terms of SOS, but doubt committee would give Griz a 2 spot.
If Griz lose there is still a 50/50 shot they get a seed. If Illinois St loses to YSU that will help free up a seed spot for that to happen.
The big question is will the committee seed 4 teams from one conference in that scenario. Those 4 would deserve it but I am not positive committee would do that.
If Griz lose there is still a 50/50 shot they get a seed. If Illinois St loses to YSU that will help free up a seed spot for that to happen.
The big question is will the committee seed 4 teams from one conference in that scenario. Those 4 would deserve it but I am not positive committee would do that.
PlayerRep said:
Here try this. Thanks!
https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1196835668183441408
My thoughts are Griz will be the #3 seed with a win and #6-7 seed with a loss.
This analyst from the link seems pretty good to me:
"MONTANA STATE WINS
The Bobcats have won the last three Brawl of the Wild games. They are playing their best football all season and are on a three-game winning streak.
So let's say Montana State wins...
The Bobcats are going to be a playoff seed with a 9-2 record against the FCS.
Where would they be seeded? Probably in the 6-7 range. NDSU and JMU are No. 1 and 2, assuming they win Saturday. The Bobcats lost to Sac State, and would be seeded behind the Hornets assuming they beat UC Davis. And they would probably be seeded behind Weber State as well if the Wildcats beat Idaho State to finish 9-1 against the FCS with that one loss coming to Montana. MSU's loss to UND would also probably drop them a seed lower than South Dakota State as the Jacks would finish 9-2 against the FCS with a win Saturday at South Dakota and their two losses coming against NDSU and Illinois State, another seeded team if they defeat Youngstown State.
My guess would be a No. 6 seed for MSU in this scenario.
Montana still has an OK chance to be seeded.
It'd be really hard not to seed the Griz with a 9-2 record against the FCS, including a win against Weber State, who should be a seed as well. But one would imagine the Griz will be seeded behind MSU in this scenario.
So the question is would the playoff committee actually seed four teams from one conference? Nothing in their criteria says they can't. They can seed as many teams from one conference as they want. The committee, made up of ADs from each conference that participates in the playoffs, actually giving one conference that much love is questionable, though.
So who gets the bump?
You have to seed Montana State if it wins Saturday. Assuming Sac State and Weber State win, they both would finish with just one FCS loss. It'd be very hard to not to seed those two. Sac State beat Montana and Montana State. But Weber State beat Sac State. BUT ... Montana beat Weber State.
Illinois State, who saw their starting QB suffer a season-ending knee injury last week, losing at YSU on Saturday would drop the Redbirds from being a seed and would certainly help the Big Sky's chances at four seeds. No teams outside the Big Sky, CAA and MVFC have a great argument for a seed, although we could see Wofford, SE Louisiana or Nicholls (who I mentioned their scenarios above) in the Top 8. And there isn't a great No. 2 CAA team with a strong case for a seed. It could maybe be Villanova.
If MSU beats Montana, and Sac State and Weber handle business, along with Illinois State losing in a tough road trip to YSU, something tells me we're going to see four Big Sky seeds. Not only because those four would deserve it, but because there aren't going to be a whole lot of seed-able resumes out there.
If MSU beats Montana, Illinois State wins to secure a seed and the committee doesn't want to seed four Big Sky teams, good luck trying to figure out who gets the short end of the stick between MSU, Montana, Weber State and Sac State."
"MONTANA STATE WINS
The Bobcats have won the last three Brawl of the Wild games. They are playing their best football all season and are on a three-game winning streak.
So let's say Montana State wins...
The Bobcats are going to be a playoff seed with a 9-2 record against the FCS.
Where would they be seeded? Probably in the 6-7 range. NDSU and JMU are No. 1 and 2, assuming they win Saturday. The Bobcats lost to Sac State, and would be seeded behind the Hornets assuming they beat UC Davis. And they would probably be seeded behind Weber State as well if the Wildcats beat Idaho State to finish 9-1 against the FCS with that one loss coming to Montana. MSU's loss to UND would also probably drop them a seed lower than South Dakota State as the Jacks would finish 9-2 against the FCS with a win Saturday at South Dakota and their two losses coming against NDSU and Illinois State, another seeded team if they defeat Youngstown State.
My guess would be a No. 6 seed for MSU in this scenario.
Montana still has an OK chance to be seeded.
It'd be really hard not to seed the Griz with a 9-2 record against the FCS, including a win against Weber State, who should be a seed as well. But one would imagine the Griz will be seeded behind MSU in this scenario.
So the question is would the playoff committee actually seed four teams from one conference? Nothing in their criteria says they can't. They can seed as many teams from one conference as they want. The committee, made up of ADs from each conference that participates in the playoffs, actually giving one conference that much love is questionable, though.
So who gets the bump?
You have to seed Montana State if it wins Saturday. Assuming Sac State and Weber State win, they both would finish with just one FCS loss. It'd be very hard to not to seed those two. Sac State beat Montana and Montana State. But Weber State beat Sac State. BUT ... Montana beat Weber State.
Illinois State, who saw their starting QB suffer a season-ending knee injury last week, losing at YSU on Saturday would drop the Redbirds from being a seed and would certainly help the Big Sky's chances at four seeds. No teams outside the Big Sky, CAA and MVFC have a great argument for a seed, although we could see Wofford, SE Louisiana or Nicholls (who I mentioned their scenarios above) in the Top 8. And there isn't a great No. 2 CAA team with a strong case for a seed. It could maybe be Villanova.
If MSU beats Montana, and Sac State and Weber handle business, along with Illinois State losing in a tough road trip to YSU, something tells me we're going to see four Big Sky seeds. Not only because those four would deserve it, but because there aren't going to be a whole lot of seed-able resumes out there.
If MSU beats Montana, Illinois State wins to secure a seed and the committee doesn't want to seed four Big Sky teams, good luck trying to figure out who gets the short end of the stick between MSU, Montana, Weber State and Sac State."
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