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grossmanairone said:
I would like to agree with you the type of TE makes a difference. We now have 3 types of TE in the roster this year. Let me cover what grossman can do.
1. Stretching the Field: A flex tight end who can run deep routes forces the safeties to stay back, stretching the defense vertically. This creates more space underneath for slot receivers and running backs to catch passes. It also prevents safeties from focusing solely on deep threats like wide receivers, giving them more one-on-one opportunities.
3. Occupying the Middle of the Field: When a flex tight end runs routes over the middle, it occupies the attention of linebackers and safeties. This can open up the sidelines for wide receivers, as the middle defenders are drawn towards the tight end, creating larger passing windows for outside routes.
4. Disguising Plays: Flex tight ends often shift and move before the snap, making it harder for the defense to read the play. This movement can create confusion and hesitation among defenders, leading to blown coverages and open receivers.
5. Drawing Double Coverage: A highly skilled flex tight end may draw double coverage, with both a linebacker and a safety or cornerback assigned to cover him. This leaves other receivers with more favorable one-on-one matchups, increasing the likelihood of successful completions and big plays.
6. Play Action Passing: Flex tight ends are also effective in play-action passing schemes. When the offense fakes a run, the defense might bite on the fake, especially if the tight end initially appears to block. This hesitation allows the tight end to slip into a route and draw coverage, leaving other receivers open downfield.
7. Blocking and Releasing: A flex tight end can start a play by blocking, giving the appearance of a run, and then release into a route. This dual threat forces defenders to respect the run, and when they do, it creates gaps in the secondary for other receivers to exploit.

By effectively using a flex tight end, an offense can manipulate defensive coverages, create mismatches, and open up passing lanes for all other receivers, making the passing game much more dynamic and difficult to defend.
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You obviously know a lot more about TE than I do. Nice post.
 
EverettGriz said:
In the nation, yes.

I don't know much about this Ketchup guy. Was he anywhere near as good as that Grace Blessner you talked about who allegedly once kicked a foot ball through those ridiculously short uprights at RHS?
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So Grossman is better than Heins who now plays for the Chargers? 6’7” 260 vs 6’4” 225? Did you at least know Tucker Kraft? Heins is significantly better than Grossman and it will show come draft day.
 
Monymony said:
So Grossman is better than Heins who now plays for the Chargers? 6’7” 260 vs 6’4” 225? Did you at least know Tucker Kraft? Heins is significantly better than Grossman and it will show come draft day.
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I think there are many great Cat fans. Salt of the earth people. Then there are the total doucehbags. One significant way to tell the douchebag fan is they always are loudly butchering the Billy Idol version of Mony Mony and throwing in the ESG stuff at the end during games against Stetson or whoever they are playing. When the Griz PA system played the song during the 3rd quarter of the beatdown last November you could see the douchebags were visibly upset. While other Cat fans chuckled and appreciated the humor. I suspected you were a tool when I first saw your handle but on a daily basis your obsession with starting ridiculous arguments confirm it.
 
Trump will hold rally in the Field House in Bozeman tomorrow, supporting Sheehy. I read that tailgating is planned. 8pm. I assume mony will give us made-up and misleading "rally" reports.
 
Monymony said:
Announcers said he had a limp although BH and I agree it was nothing. Ah Yat only played garbage time. Colter probably asked because the announcers repeatedly gave the offense the excuse of a hurt qb.
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Hauck knows McDowell was hurt. He just didn't want to use it as an excuse right after the game.
 
Monymony said:
So Grossman is better than Heins who now plays for the Chargers? 6’7” 260 vs 6’4” 225? Did you at least know Tucker Kraft? Heins is significantly better than Grossman and it will show come draft day.
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Just looked up heinz nfl draft review……and btw big fan of the Heinz kid. He has a great nfl career ahead of him. Reminds me of Will Dissly. Now back to business as I would kindly remind you the topic “ what player makes a huge difference “ and we pointed out the Flex TE position is such a marauder role in an offense that when you take that out of the offense massive schemes are not possible. U following here? I will assume u did play, coach and consult and follow me. Fun times monymonee
 
grossmanairone said:
Just looked up heinz nfl draft review……and btw big fan of the Heinz kid. He has a great nfl career ahead of him. Reminds me of Will Dissly. Now back to business as I would kindly remind you the topic “ what player makes a huge difference “ and we pointed out the Flex TE position is such a marauder role in an offense that when you take that out of the offense massive schemes are not possible. U following here? I will assume u did play, coach and consult and follow me. Fun times monymonee
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Grossman is solid but I see him a more of a WR build than TE… curious is he trying to play TE in NFL?
 
grossmanairone said:
I would like to agree with you the type of TE Grossman is = makes a game changing difference. With him back this year the griz now have 3 types of TE in the roster this year. Let me cover what type of TE grossman is: Flex TE
1. Stretching the Field: A flex TE can run deep routes that forces the safeties to stay back, stretching the defense vertically. This creates more space underneath for slot receivers and running backs to catch passes. It also prevents safeties from focusing solely on deep threats like wide receivers, giving them more one-on-one opportunities.
3. Occupying the Middle of the Field: When a flex TE runs routes over the middle, Grossman occupies the attention of linebackers and safeties. This can open up the sidelines for wide receivers, as the middle defenders are drawn towards the tight end, creating larger passing windows for outside routes.
4. Disguising Plays: Grossman often shifts and moves before the snap, making it harder for the defense to read the play. This movement can create confusion and hesitation among defenders, leading to blown coverages and open receivers.
5. Drawing Double Coverage: A highly skilled TE like Grossman draws double coverage, with both a linebacker and a safety or cornerback assigned to cover him. He runs a 4.55 (40 yard dash) so…..this matchup leaves other receivers with more favorable one-on-one matchups, increasing the likelihood of successful completions and big plays.
6. Play Action Passing: Grossman is extremely sneaky + effective in play-action passing schemes. When the offense fakes a run, the defense might bite on the fake, especially if the TE initially appears to block or chip block em. This hesitation allows the tight end to slip into a route and draw coverage, leaving other receivers open downfield. His wheel route is “NFL grade” and he always gets open fast as the defender can’t turn their hips fast enough.
7. Chipping / Blocking and Releasing: A flex TE can start a play by blocking, giving the appearance of a run, and then release into a route. This dual threat forces defenders to respect the run, and when they do, it creates gaps in the secondary for other receivers to exploit.

By effectively using some of these skills I taught him, Grossman can easily manipulate defensive coverages, create mismatches, and open up passing lanes for all other receivers, making the passing game much more dynamic and difficult to defend.
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I sometimes wonder how different our offense would have been with Grossman as a threat. I'd heard in the past from one player that Grossman was always a safe check down when the first and/or second read were covered (when Grossman wasn't that read). With the way he forces defense to account for him, and the way teams didn't get tipped off on whether we were running if he was in the package, I sometimes daydream and wonder if the Grossman injury was actually the one that kept us from being in the national championship until the very end. God, I can't wait to see him back.
 
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mthoopsfan said:
Grossman is 2d team Stats All-American and you think he's "solid". You really don't have a clue.
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Is Grossman a prototypical TE???? No... Is the "Prototypical" TE of yesteryear a thing?? Not really. TE are like Small forwards in College and NBA now days. You need to be able to go down low at times, but also hit the 3 and be able to stretch the floor with speed and athleticism. Grossman can do all those things, and is a player that coaches NEED to know where he is at all times, and change the Defense to make sure they aren't in a major mismatch. That isn't easy to do on the fly during a game. I have no clue if he will get drafted, and honestly don't really care. He makes the Griz offense one of the top in the FCS. And if he can stay healthy, and come back after a year in the same form he left, then I don't envy any of the D coordinators that face the Griz. Are there still questions about him coming off a year out??? Of course there are, and should be. But those will be answered when he plays games on a field with other Football players.
 
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