Hermason in trouble...ugh

[Buttegrizzle]

Not yet. Maybe stop off on the way to Laramie next year?

 

[EverettGriz]

I expect better judgement from a starter. If you are drunk and decide you want a sign for the dorm room, use your head. Are you too drunk to accomplish the objective without getting popped? I found an old Rocky Klever signed football sitting in a bar in Sheridan Wyoming. A must have, right? Only I knew I was in no condition to pull off the job. So I walked. So come on Hermy, use your head. Have a walk-on to take for you. It's part of the maturation process.

:lol: :clap:

 

[PTGrizzly]

How many of you have never broken, bent or taken a sign?

Criminal mischief is a total non-event "crime".

You sir, are unbelievable.

Instead of saying that these things aren't a big deal,why can't we just expect players to stay out of trouble during the season? Is that really too much to expect?

Have you ever broken, bent or taken or sign? How about broken a window?

It's fine to expect that every athlete stays out of trouble, during the season and otherwise, but it isn't going to happen. So, all schools are left having to evaluate various situations and figuring out how to address them. Your statement is like saying is it too much to expect for people not to drive after too many drinks, or to exceed the speed limit. Sorry, just isn't going to happen.

Nope, I haven't broken a sign, or a window. I now look forward to your post telling me that I'm probably not a fun individual because I don't break things when I drink.

Look, I get that it's difficult to keep 100 kids out of trouble, but that doesn't mean that we should just forgive them instantly when they do. The kid screwed up, he's going to get a punishment and he's going to have to pay it. Saying that it's not a big deal isn't helping anything, it just tells people that they have free reign to do it again.

 

[grizatheart]

If this is the most trouble someone from the team gets into then I'll feel good. Not that Hermason got in trouble but that this is such small stuff, I will have to assume that the message got thru to a bunch of kids.

And on a side note, I remember when I was dating a girl named Jennifer and I saw the Jennifer Lane sign, I knew I had to have it. Yes I was drunk when I took it and I was stupid when I gave it to her.

 

[PlayerRep]

How many of you have never broken, bent or taken a sign?

Criminal mischief is a total non-event "crime".

You sir, are unbelievable.

Instead of saying that these things aren't a big deal,why can't we just expect players to stay out of trouble during the season? Is that really too much to expect?

Yes, apparently it is. And everyone can save the "guess you've never done anything stupid" rant. Man that gets old. And I'm especially tired of the "it's not a major crime" or "it's only a misdemeanor". Give it a rest people. He got ARRESTED. Shouldn't that be enough? I don't think he should be kicked off the team or anything that drastic, but stop sugar coating it. Like I said earlier, had this been a cat player, Griz fans everywhere would be calling for his head.

No one is sugar coating anything. Some are just trying to put this in perspective--particular for people like you. I get tired of people like you who believe breaking a sign is the crime of the century. No, getting arrested doesn't actually mean much. What was he arrested for? Should he have been arrested? Those are important questions. Then, you need to decide what should happen. Why is that some complicated for some of you? And no, lots of Griz fans would not be calling for a Cats' head in similar circumstances. You might, but many of us wouldn't.

 

[George Ferguson]

PT, I personally think any violation of team rules is a big deal. But, just like when people post things like "we shouldn't look past such and such a team, or we should take it one game at a time" when another fan posts something about a game down the road, what does it really matter? WE as fans don't play the games therefore, WE can look ahead as much as we want and it will have ZERO influence on any game.

And in the case of Hermanson, you said it yourself, he will be punished by UM accordingly. So what does it matter if some FANS on a message board think it isn't a big deal? WE aren't part of the punishment process, WE aren't part of setting forth team rules, and WE didn't tell Hermy to go out and break one of those rules. In this instance, what WE think, one way or another doesn't really matter.

 

[PlayerRep]

How many of you have never broken, bent or taken a sign?

Criminal mischief is a total non-event "crime".

You sir, are unbelievable.

Instead of saying that these things aren't a big deal,why can't we just expect players to stay out of trouble during the season? Is that really too much to expect?

Have you ever broken, bent or taken or sign? How about broken a window?

It's fine to expect that every athlete stays out of trouble, during the season and otherwise, but it isn't going to happen. So, all schools are left having to evaluate various situations and figuring out how to address them. Your statement is like saying is it too much to expect for people not to drive after too many drinks, or to exceed the speed limit. Sorry, just isn't going to happen.

Nope, I haven't broken a sign, or a window. I now look forward to your post telling me that I'm probably not a fun individual because I don't break things when I drink.

Look, I get that it's difficult to keep 100 kids out of trouble, but that doesn't mean that we should just forgive them instantly when they do. The kid screwed up, he's going to get a punishment and he's going to have to pay it. Saying that it's not a big deal isn't helping anything, it just tells people that they have free reign to do it again.

No one has suggested that the kid be forgiven. Not one poster, to my knowledge. So why do you have to make up something like that? That also says something about the type of person you are. The actual crime isn't a big deal. There's nothing wrong with saying that. It does not tell people they can do it again. What an odd thinker you are.

 

[EverettGriz]

getting arrested doesn't actually mean much

Did you just actually type that??

Yes, getting arrested DOES mean something. Most of us will go our entire lives without seeing the backseat of a police car. To suggest otherwise -- particularly when you've got all of the advantages of a DI college football players -- is a little ridiculous.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I cant speak for everyone, but I sure feel better now that PR has reprimanded all the repeat offenders. I may even get some sleep tonight.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

getting arrested doesn't actually mean much

Did you just actually type that??

Yes, getting arrested DOES mean something. Most of us will go our entire lives without seeing the backseat of a police car. To suggest otherwise -- particularly when you've got all of the advantages of a DI college football players -- is a little ridiculous.

I wish I could say I went my whole life without seeing the back of a police car.... I never spent more than 5 hours in a jail cell though. Literally every bit of trouble I have ever been in in my life there was alcohol involved. Alcohol seems to be the common denominator. Speaking from experience, college is where you make your mistakes, and you learn from them. I learned that I should have drinking limits, which has resulted in me not having a run-in with the law since I finished my junior year at UM. I did some stupid things in college, but I learned from them, and I moved on with my life. M. Hermanson is young, and maybe just a little dumb, but he will learn from this mistake and move on, just like many of us have.

 

[cclarkblues]

The REALLY stupid thing is getting caught...

 

[grizcountry420]

I've never been to jail...



True Story

 

[grizindabox]

Greg Rachac ‏@CatGrizInsider 2m
#Griz safety Matt Hermanson is suspended for the NAU game this week

 

[PlayerRep]

getting arrested doesn't actually mean much

Did you just actually type that??

Yes, getting arrested DOES mean something. Most of us will go our entire lives without seeing the backseat of a police car. To suggest otherwise -- particularly when you've got all of the advantages of a DI college football players -- is a little ridiculous.

People get arrested and little or nothing comes of out all the time. I've been arrested. Proud of it. Like I said, getting arrested is only the beginning of the analyis/process. There are multiple and more important questions after that.

This is what the FBI says on number of arrests in 2011, i.e. about 12.5 million.

"■Nationwide, law enforcement made an estimated 12,408,899 arrests in 2011. Of these arrests, 534,704 were for violent crimes, and 1,639,883 were for property crimes. (Note: the UCR Program does not collect data on citations for traffic violations.)
■The highest number of arrests were for drug abuse violations (estimated at 1,531,251 arrests), larceny-theft (estimated at 1,264,986), and driving under the influence (estimated at 1,215,077)."

 

[GrizMusician]

Greg Rachac ‏@CatGrizInsider 2m
#Griz safety Matt Hermanson is suspended for the NAU game this week

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[rimrockgriz]

How many of you have never broken, bent or taken a sign?

Criminal mischief is a total non-event "crime".

You sir, are unbelievable.

Instead of saying that these things aren't a big deal,why can't we just expect players to stay out of trouble during the season? Is that really too much to expect?

Yes, apparently it is. And everyone can save the "guess you've never done anything stupid" rant. Man that gets old. And I'm especially tired of the "it's not a major crime" or "it's only a misdemeanor". Give it a rest people. He got ARRESTED. Shouldn't that be enough? I don't think he should be kicked off the team or anything that drastic, but stop sugar coating it. Like I said earlier, had this been a cat player, Griz fans everywhere would be calling for his head.

Nate Bignell took a bike for a stroll...turns out it wasn't his and he didn't have permission. Similar situation here...1-2 games for the boda them... :egriz:

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I don't trust people that have never been to jail...............

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[putter]

getting arrested doesn't actually mean much

Did you just actually type that??

Yes, getting arrested DOES mean something. Most of us will go our entire lives without seeing the backseat of a police car. To suggest otherwise -- particularly when you've got all of the advantages of a DI college football players -- is a little ridiculous.

People get arrested and little or nothing comes of out all the time. I've been arrested. Proud of it. Like I said, getting arrested is only the beginning of the analyis/process. There are multiple and more important questions after that.

This is what the FBI says on number of arrests in 2011, i.e. about 12.5 million.

"■Nationwide, law enforcement made an estimated 12,408,899 arrests in 2011. Of these arrests, 534,704 were for violent crimes, and 1,639,883 were for property crimes. (Note: the UCR Program does not collect data on citations for traffic violations.)
■The highest number of arrests were for drug abuse violations (estimated at 1,531,251 arrests), larceny-theft (estimated at 1,264,986), and driving under the influence (estimated at 1,215,077)."

Really? Trying for the street cred banner on e-Griz?

 

[PlayerRep]

"Study: 41% of Americans Have Been Arrested By the Time They’re 23"

This is a headline from an internet site.

Here's an article on the subject. Cites the same figure, and others.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/arrests-increasing-us-youth/story?id=15180222" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The US has a higher percentage of people in jail than any other country in the world.

 

[mcg]

I have a hard time believing that. I suppose it could be true, but 41% is awfully big number.