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Hermason in trouble...ugh

ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
I dont even get why he would be suspended, its not like he had a party disturbed the peace and got tased and arrested................



:coffee:
Didn't delaney say at one point that if you make the police blotter you would sit, and if it involved alcohol you would sit a bit longer?
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
I dont even get why he would be suspended, its not like he had a party disturbed the peace and got tased and arrested................



:coffee:
Didn't delaney say at one point that if you make the police blotter you would sit, and if it involved alcohol you would sit a bit longer?

I never heard or read that. Where did you read or hear it?

I believe it should be handled the way it was in the old days. The police or others made you pay for the damage and apologize. Your parents were told, and kicked you in the butt. The coach kicked you in the butt, and made you run after practice for a week. Even if the newspaper learned of the incident, there was no press. You learned a lesson. The team wasn't punished by your absence. If you weren't an athlete, it was handled the same way, except that there was no coach to kick you in butt and make you run.

Now, everything is the crime of the century.
 
PlayerRep said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
I dont even get why he would be suspended, its not like he had a party disturbed the peace and got tased and arrested................



:coffee:
Didn't delaney say at one point that if you make the police blotter you would sit, and if it involved alcohol you would sit a bit longer?

I never heard or read that. Where did you read or hear it?

I believe it should be handled the way it was in the old days. The police or others made you pay for the damage and apologize. Your parents were told, and kicked you in the butt. The coach kicked you in the butt, and made you run after practice for a week. Even if the newspaper learned of the incident, there was no press. You learned a lesson. The team wasn't punished by your absence. If you weren't an athlete, it was handled the same way, except that there was no coach to kick you in butt and make you run.

Now, everything is the crime of the century.
I thought I remembered him saying that in an interview. Thats why I'm asking if anyone else remembered, because I can't remember exactly when and under what circumstance he said that.
 
PlayerRep said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
I dont even get why he would be suspended, its not like he had a party disturbed the peace and got tased and arrested................



:coffee:
Didn't delaney say at one point that if you make the police blotter you would sit, and if it involved alcohol you would sit a bit longer?

I never heard or read that. Where did you read or hear it?

I believe it should be handled the way it was in the old days. The police or others made you pay for the damage and apologize. Your parents were told, and kicked you in the butt. The coach kicked you in the butt, and made you run after practice for a week. Even if the newspaper learned of the incident, there was no press. You learned a lesson. The team wasn't punished by your absence. If you weren't an athlete, it was handled the same way, except that there was no coach to kick you in butt and make you run.

Now, everything is the crime of the century.

PR, well put. Athletes have been getting in trouble for generations and many decades. Now it is just easier for people to find out. I have heard many stories from athletes dating back to the 1940's. I'm sure a few egrizzers have heard stories going back even further. The athletes of early 1900's were not angels either. Imagine if the legends like Babe Ruth, Wilt Chamberlain, Ty Cobb, etc did what they did in today's age, they would likely be made out to be much worse worse. Then again, I have heard some pretty unthinkable stories about Cobb.

Nonetheless, todays lack of privacy takes away from would be legends. I think it is much funner to let the stories be passed from generation to generation than hearing all this crap anytime anyone does anything.
 
REALLY? What the hell you doing out at 2:30 am taking your frustrations out on a frickin sign?
Drunk none the less! If you don't wanna play fine but quit first and don't embarrass the entire team. A sign.... :lol: :lol: What an amateur. Sorry he 'll have to watch on roots sports this weekend.
 
Stupid. especially since were rollin and now getting into conference play. Did the sign say "Missoula"? If so, I sort of understand the situation.. If it was just to destroy some signs, suspend him for 2 or 3 games.
 
BWahlberg said:
Boneheaded action by Hermey, knowing how prior instances have been handled I assume he'll miss the NAU game. His stupid actions are frustrating as this team is trying to overcome this kind of an "above the law" attitude. Add in that he's presumably not going to be available for the most important game to date... just makes me shake my head.


This.

The "crime" is minor.

It's the fact that Hermy is clearly a dumbass that pisses me off. Suspend his ass for 3 games and have him fetch water for the guys for whom having MONTANA on the front of their uniform means something.
 
Shouldn't there be a no drinking code or at least a no get-wasted code of honor to follow as a Griz football player? The issue here is not the severity of Herm's crime, it's the fact that he represents MT Grizzly football, and he helped taint that. He let down not only himself, his teammates and coaches, but Griz Nation as a whole. We've been in the hot seat of late publicly with regards to our players behavior off the field. MD please set an example by booting this guy back to South Dakota. Maybe then for at least the rest of this year the rest of the team will think twice before drinking one too many, or committing other potentially consequential actions off the field! He's not even that big of a playmaker anyway...
 
timjayko said:
MD please set an example by booting this guy back to South Dakota. Maybe then for at least the rest of this year the rest of the team will think twice before drinking one too many, or committing other potentially consequential actions off the field!

That seems a little harsh for a misdemeanor don't you think? Sure, what he did was stupid, but shit...lighten up. It's certainly not worthy of being booted off the team and sent packing back to South Dakota. It was a mistake that he'll end up paying for both financially for the damage and with play time when he's likely suspended for a bit. No one got hurt except a couple signs.
 
Potomac Griz said:
timjayko said:
MD please set an example by booting this guy back to South Dakota. Maybe then for at least the rest of this year the rest of the team will think twice before drinking one too many, or committing other potentially consequential actions off the field!

That seems a little harsh for a misdemeanor don't you think? Sure, what he did was stupid, but shit...lighten up. It's certainly not worthy of being booted off the team and sent packing back to South Dakota. It was a mistake that he'll end up paying for both financially for the damage and with play time when he's likely suspended for a bit. No one got hurt except a couple signs.
Yeah just a little of this and a little of that... A bar needs to be set for MT football players. They need to be held accountable for their actions. Even more than the average student. A lot of these guys are getting a free ride scholarship, it should be put to good use... Studying on the weekends instead of drinking heavily and destroying signs. Mind you a person with a misdemeanor on their record can be denied employment. Herm's apparent out of controlled behavior resulting in a misdemeanor charge warrants MD to fire him from the team, what else is this guy capable of the next time he decides to drink again? Assault? It's time Montana Football players are actually held accountable for their actions, and this is coming from as big of a Griz fan as you'd find on this board. Each time a football player commits even the slightest offense and receives only a slap on the wrist, does that not feed the wolf of continued toleration of misbehaving fools? Enough is enough. I hope MD has it in him to at least suspend him for half the season.
 
timjayko said:
Potomac Griz said:
timjayko said:
MD please set an example by booting this guy back to South Dakota. Maybe then for at least the rest of this year the rest of the team will think twice before drinking one too many, or committing other potentially consequential actions off the field!

That seems a little harsh for a misdemeanor don't you think? Sure, what he did was stupid, but shit...lighten up. It's certainly not worthy of being booted off the team and sent packing back to South Dakota. It was a mistake that he'll end up paying for both financially for the damage and with play time when he's likely suspended for a bit. No one got hurt except a couple signs.
Yeah just a little of this and a little of that... A bar needs to be set for MT football players. They need to be held accountable for their actions. Even more than the average student. A lot of these guys are getting a free ride scholarship, it should be put to good use... Studying on the weekends instead of drinking heavily and destroying signs. Mind you a person with a misdemeanor on their record can be denied employment. Herm's apparent out of controlled behavior resulting in a misdemeanor charge warrants MD to fire him from the team, what else is this guy capable of the next time he decides to drink again? Assault? It's time Montana Football players are actually held accountable for their actions, and this is coming from as big of a Griz fan as you'd find on this board. Each time a football player commits even the slightest offense and receives only a slap on the wrist, does that not feed the wolf of continued toleration of misbehaving fools? Enough is enough. I hope MD has it in him to at least suspend him for half the season.

With this tight of a standard, UM wouldn't have a team in the future. Would lose too many players. Recruits would quit coming to UM. Another d-back was kicked off the team recently. Wasn't charged with anything. Couldn't have been too serious. That sure didn't deter Hermanson, assuming Hermanson in fact did what was charged.

Why is breaking a sign such an embarrassment to the university or to you? Who cares? It happens all the time. It always has. Most of us have done it. Have you never broken something or taken something, perhaps a sign? Some people get caught. Some don't. Jeez, settle down and think about what you're saying. Hermanson is a good kid.
 
He should not be kicked off the team based on the information I've gathered here.(trust me I'm a hard ass from a cop family) Suspension for one or two games and 100 hours community service. Also, restitution for damages caused. This is also based on the fact that this is his first incident with "johnny law". I'm also "assuming" (a terrible word) he didn't take a breathilizer and blow positive. :egriz: p.s. "your leash is now 2" long dude".
 
rimrockgriz said:
He should not be kicked off the team based on the information I've gathered here.(trust me I'm a hard ass from a cop family) Suspension for one or two games and 100 hours community service. Also, restitution for damages caused. This is also based on the fact that this is his first incident with "johnny law". I'm also "assuming" (a terrible word) he didn't take a breathilizer and blow positive. :egriz: p.s. "your leash is now 2" long dude".

Why? He wasn't driving and he's 21.
 
Stop making excuses for him. It was a stupid thing to do knowing what the program has just been through and that the school is trying to get a positive image out there again. Plain dumb, period.
 
putter said:
Stop making excuses for him. It was a stupid thing to do knowing what the program has just been through and that the school is trying to get a positive image out there again. Plain dumb, period.

No one is making excuses for him. No one disagrees that it was stupid. However, some of us believe it was a minor infraction, that people should put it in perspective, and the punishment should fit the crime. Some people think that kids this age, especially athletes, should be perfect angels. I don't believe that is possible. Sure, things can be improved, and they have, but some of this is just going to keep on happening. My guess is that there's more going on (at every school) that just doesn't get known or make the press.
 
putter said:
Stop making excuses for him. It was a stupid thing to do knowing what the program has just been through and that the school is trying to get a positive image out there again. Plain dumb, period.

+1

Just an observation, but making excuses for them is what emboldened the players for the past 4 years thus the troubles began...
 
theobserver said:
putter said:
Stop making excuses for him. It was a stupid thing to do knowing what the program has just been through and that the school is trying to get a positive image out there again. Plain dumb, period.

+1

Just an observation, but making excuses for them is what emboldened the players for the past 4 years thus the troubles began...

That's no true. First, no one in this thread is making excuses for them. See my above post. Second, no one among the coaching staff or athletic department is making excuses for them. Third, posters supporting kids on the internet aren't "emboldening" them. What a ridiculous thing to say, in my view.
 
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