Hauck

[PlayerRep]

For me, given the talent Stitt squandered to a 7-4 record, BH gets two years to get us into the semis before UM sends him on down the road. Good coaches don't need to make excuses. Based on reading posts on here, I think he'll deliver.

You don't understand, according to some on here...he only needs 4 games to achieve 9 wins. That's my expectation.

:clap:

I think it's clear that the fan base isn't going to tolerate 7-4, mediocrity, excuses, and moral victories anymore. BH will know this coming in, and will not be surprised if he's shown the door if he can't deliver. These kids are too talented for another 7-4 season. Period.

But what about needing time to get his guys (or at least to retool all those receivers) and what about the loss continuity if UM changes its coach yet again?

 

[stubbins]

You don't understand, according to some on here...he only needs 4 games to achieve 9 wins. That's my expectation.

:clap:

I think it's clear that the fan base isn't going to tolerate 7-4, mediocrity, excuses, and moral victories anymore. BH will know this coming in, and will not be surprised if he's shown the door if he can't deliver. These kids are too talented for another 7-4 season. Period.

But what about needing time to get his guys (or at least to retool all those receivers) and what about the loss continuity if UM changes its coach yet again?

Haslam and big supporters have decided in the last week that those things are not important.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You don't understand, according to some on here...he only needs 4 games to achieve 9 wins. That's my expectation.

:clap:

I think it's clear that the fan base isn't going to tolerate 7-4, mediocrity, excuses, and moral victories anymore. BH will know this coming in, and will not be surprised if he's shown the door if he can't deliver. These kids are too talented for another 7-4 season. Period.

But what about needing time to get his guys (or at least to retool all those receivers) and what about the loss continuity if UM changes its coach yet again?

I'm definitely not buying coaches' excuses anymore. I'm over it. Just like that.

 

[grizghost]

:clap:

I think it's clear that the fan base isn't going to tolerate 7-4, mediocrity, excuses, and moral victories anymore. BH will know this coming in, and will not be surprised if he's shown the door if he can't deliver. These kids are too talented for another 7-4 season. Period.

But what about needing time to get his guys (or at least to retool all those receivers) and what about the loss continuity if UM changes its coach yet again?

I'm definitely not buying coaches' excuses anymore. I'm over it. Just like that.

next coach better have these players running thru concrete walls..the days of being average have
got to be gone..l don't think the BSC has gotten better I think we have just fallen!

 

[PlayerRep]

:clap:

I think it's clear that the fan base isn't going to tolerate 7-4, mediocrity, excuses, and moral victories anymore. BH will know this coming in, and will not be surprised if he's shown the door if he can't deliver. These kids are too talented for another 7-4 season. Period.

But what about needing time to get his guys (or at least to retool all those receivers) and what about the loss continuity if UM changes its coach yet again?

I'm definitely not buying coaches' excuses anymore. I'm over it. Just like that.

How about posters who make excuses for coaches?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I think it's clear that the fan base isn't going to tolerate 7-4, mediocrity, excuses, and moral victories anymore. BH will know this coming in, and will not be surprised if he's shown the door if he can't deliver. These kids are too talented for another 7-4 season. Period.

But what about needing time to get his guys (or at least to retool all those receivers) and what about the loss continuity if UM changes its coach yet again?

I'm definitely not buying coaches' excuses anymore. I'm over it. Just like that.

How about posters who make excuses for coaches?

Totally over them. I've agreed with what they've said at times, but UM has chosen its direction, and I love it. I'm all in for department-wide accountability.

 

[Fahque]

OK, as TCC says, "It's a done deal." All I'll say is don't expect BH to have the Griz in the playoffs, let alone the NC, his 1st season. This isn't 10 or so yrs. ago in the BSC, esp. when BH won't have the latitude to bring in the goons he did who caused all the Msln headlines. I think he was hampered by the UNLV AD, who I think laid down the law to him re: recruiting borderline criminals, based on his MT practices.

Bobby is a good, maybe the best coach UM has ever had. That aside, even if he's the next HC, don't expect the times of "back when."

Whoever the coach may be for next year, I'll have the same season expectations that I would have had Stitt's contract been extended...that includes beating the cats and at least two playoff games. If the new coach can't do that with the talent we have, why get rid of Stitt without giving him at least one more year in the first place?

Why would you allow Stitt 4 years, with the Griz coming off of top 12 and 8 seasons, and playoffs and wins over the Cats, and give the new coach only 1 year to win 2 playoff games when the team hasn't been to playoffs or beaten Cats for 2 years?

Because I believe the talent that Stitt brought in can do it. We have had highly ranked recruiting classes for the past two years, they should be able to perform under any coach, I would have liked to see what Stitt could do with them but since we won’t get the chance, my expectations for the next coach would be the same as I would have for Stitt. Just answering your question

 

[Yukon]

If it's Hauck, he also will most likely bring in JC transfers and drop downs. Stitt was not fond of that to some extent.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

OK, as TCC says, "It's a done deal." All I'll say is don't expect BH to have the Griz in the playoffs, let alone the NC, his 1st season. This isn't 10 or so yrs. ago in the BSC, esp. when BH won't have the latitude to bring in the goons he did who caused all the Msln headlines. I think he was hampered by the UNLV AD, who I think laid down the law to him re: recruiting borderline criminals, based on his MT practices.

Bobby is a good, maybe the best coach UM has ever had. That aside, even if he's the next HC, don't expect the times of "back when."

Whoever the coach may be for next year, I'll have the same season expectations that I would have had Stitt's contract been extended...that includes beating the cats and at least two playoff games. If the new coach can't do that with the talent we have, why get rid of Stitt without giving him at least one more year in the first place?

Why would you allow Stitt 4 years, with the Griz coming off of top 12 and 8 seasons, and playoffs and wins over the Cats, and give the new coach only 1 year to win 2 playoff games when the team hasn't been to playoffs or beaten Cats for 2 years?

Because I believe the talent that Stitt brought in can do it. We have had highly ranked recruiting classes for the past two years, they should be able to perform under any coach, I would have liked to see what Stitt could do with them but since we won’t get the chance, my expectations for the next coach would be the same as I would have for Stitt. Just answering your question

I think your post is well put and makes some sense. However, I have higher immediate expectations for the new regime. This is a championship caliber program, and that's why we made the change. No excuses.

 

[PlayerRep]

My view is that some who wanted Stitt extended are now responding by expousing unrealistic and unfair expectations, which is the opposite of what they have been doing for the past 3 years. In fact, I wonder if the expectations being proffered for the next coach would have even been expected by them for Stitt next year.

"Stitt needs time, and even more time, to get his recruits, to get his scheme installed and learned, and to get his culture accepted--and now that he's not been renewed--we expect his successor to be more successful in his first year than Stitt was in his 3 years."

 

[grizghost]

OK, as TCC says, "It's a done deal." All I'll say is don't expect BH to have the Griz in the playoffs, let alone the NC, his 1st season. This isn't 10 or so yrs. ago in the BSC, esp. when BH won't have the latitude to bring in the goons he did who caused all the Msln headlines. I think he was hampered by the UNLV AD, who I think laid down the law to him re: recruiting borderline criminals, based on his MT practices.

Bobby is a good, maybe the best coach UM has ever had. That aside, even if he's the next HC, don't expect the times of "back when."

Whoever the coach may be for next year, I'll have the same season expectations that I would have had Stitt's contract been extended...that includes beating the cats and at least two playoff games. If the new coach can't do that with the talent we have, why get rid of Stitt without giving him at least one more year in the first place?

Why would you allow Stitt 4 years, with the Griz coming off of top 12 and 8 seasons, and playoffs and wins over the Cats, and give the new coach only 1 year to win 2 playoff games when the team hasn't been to playoffs or beaten Cats for 2 years?

Because I believe the talent that Stitt brought in can do it. We have had highly ranked recruiting classes for the past two years, they should be able to perform under any coach, I would have liked to see what Stitt could do with them but since we won’t get the chance, my expectations for the next coach would be the same as I would have for Stitt. Just answering your question

..anybody thinks Stitt should have been given a extension is drinking somekind of kool-aide..l'm
not sure what kind of talent Stitt has recruited maybe good maybe not good..who knows?..the
next should be given tougher standards than Stitt because we are not EVEN close of where we
once were!

 

[kemajic]

My view is that some who wanted Stitt extended are now responding by expousing unrealistic and unfair expectations, which is the opposite of what they have been doing for the past 3 years. In fact, I wonder if the expectations being proffered for the next coach would have even been expected by them for Stitt next year.

"Stitt needs time, and even more time, to get his recruits, to get his scheme installed and learned, and to get his culture accepted--and now that he's not been renewed--we expect his successor to be more successful in his first year than Stitt was in his 3 years."

Bingo!

 

[grizcountry420]

If it's Hauck, he also will most likely bring in JC transfers and drop downs. Stitt was not fond of that to some extent.

I counted around 12 guys on our roster who transferred to Montana. I think that's a decent amount.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

My view is that some who wanted Stitt extended are now responding by expousing unrealistic and unfair expectations, which is the opposite of what they have been doing for the past 3 years. In fact, I wonder if the expectations being proffered for the next coach would have even been expected by them for Stitt next year.

"Stitt needs time, and even more time, to get his recruits, to get his scheme installed and learned, and to get his culture accepted--and now that he's not been renewed--we expect his successor to be more successful in his first year than Stitt was in his 3 years."

I think you're right with respect to some who wanted Stitt extended. In hindsight, I'm certainly glad Stitt didn't get extended. I think the next coach will be better, especially if it's Hauck. Accordingly, I think it's pretty reasonable to expect more out of Hauck next year than I would've from Stitt. I'm definitely done with giving coaches free passes and makes excuses for them. I guess I've seen the light, so to speak.

I think Kem hit it just right on the other thread that got locked for other reasons. There is no reason it should take several seasons to get back to the top with this group of players.

EDIT: I should say I'm not expecting BH to win the championship in his first two years or anything. He just has to do better than 7-4, not sniffing a playoff win, etc. That's all.

 

[PlayerRep]

If it's Hauck, he also will most likely bring in JC transfers and drop downs. Stitt was not fond of that to some extent.

Strong, Davidson, Phillips, Hill, Lee, Alexander, Sanders (?), Banks, Shaw, William, Roberts, Taylor, the qb from Blinn, another d-tackle (?), a d-end who came and went. Curran perhaps doesn't count.

Who else?

 

[TCCGRIZ]

My view is that some who wanted Stitt extended are now responding by expousing unrealistic and unfair expectations, which is the opposite of what they have been doing for the past 3 years. In fact, I wonder if the expectations being proffered for the next coach would have even been expected by them for Stitt next year.

"Stitt needs time, and even more time, to get his recruits, to get his scheme installed and learned, and to get his culture accepted--and now that he's not been renewed--we expect his successor to be more successful in his first year than Stitt was in his 3 years."

Now PlayerRep you know what happens around here when one starts talking sense . People get angry .lol
Good post btw

 

[TCCGRIZ]

I think it's clear that the fan base isn't going to tolerate 7-4, mediocrity, excuses, and moral victories anymore. BH will know this coming in, and will not be surprised if he's shown the door if he can't deliver. These kids are too talented for another 7-4 season. Period.

But what about needing time to get his guys (or at least to retool all those receivers) and what about the loss continuity if UM changes its coach yet again?

I'm definitely not buying coaches' excuses anymore. I'm over it. Just like that.

next coach better have these players running thru concrete walls..the days of being average have
got to be gone..l don't think the BSC has gotten better I think we have just fallen!

Your last sentence ( .l don't think the BSC has gotten better I think we have just fallen!)
You couldn't have said it any better !!! Totally agree

 

[uofmman1122]

Whoever it is has to do better than 7-4.

I'm not saying he should be fired otherwise, but that's the standard you set when you fire the coach who did it the year before.

I mean, why make a change if you aren't confident/expecting the new guy to do better?

My opinion: If it's Hauck, I think we'll be in good shape, but anything less than 8-3 will be a bitter disappointment.

 

[hold-em]

All I want is a good football coach. We will lose some but win more. The last three years have been frustrating.

Edit: And it doesn't have to be Bobby.

 

[AZGrizFan]

My view is that some who wanted Stitt extended are now responding by expousing unrealistic and unfair expectations, which is the opposite of what they have been doing for the past 3 years. In fact, I wonder if the expectations being proffered for the next coach would have even been expected by them for Stitt next year.

"Stitt needs time, and even more time, to get his recruits, to get his scheme installed and learned, and to get his culture accepted--and now that he's not been renewed--we expect his successor to be more successful in his first year than Stitt was in his 3 years."

The unrealistic and unfair expectations are being espoused by those who are fellating Bobby Hauck at every turn. Just go back and read some of the posts of those who beg for Bobby’s return.