Hauck takes a break from recruiting

[sdk.catfish]

by Paytonlives » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:01 pm

Fellas... This has become FUBAR

Hauck has every right to take a day off and go to an event that
WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN FOR A UM PLAYER AGAIN!!!

Lighten up!!!!

Again, I have no problem with that as long as he actually took the day, or days, off and both he and Haslem paid for that on their own dime. It would have been much more appropriate for Read to attend but again on his own dime. If the CFL or Calgary wanted to attend on their own dime I think that is great. But in the greater scheme of things this is all forgotten tomorrow unless the Missoulian or Kaiman pick up on it and then we shall see the ultimate benefit or degradation to the program.

 

[AZGrizFan]

by AZGrizFan » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:02 pm

It’s the best fucking marketing the university has done in 5 years.

With all due respect AZ who are you marketing to. Recruits, at least in my opinion, don't give two shits about what happened at UM 23 years ago. I doubt if one potential recruit watched this show and I don't blame them for that. The past is the past. A large poster of Hauck and DD in the Championship Center means exactly what? If this is the best marketing in 5 years, and you may unfortunately be right, then we are in big fucking trouble.

It’s called exposure. Something the U has had precious little of in the past years under Engstrom.

 

[kemajic]

by kemajic » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:12 pm
I'm sure your accolades were a nationally recognized hall of fame induction, too. So unfair. But your whining is keeping the thread going.

Lots of people complain over government waste so if that is your point then I am guilty. I'm just not sure whether induction into the college football hall of fame is really that important to the UM students attempting to get a degree in an environment where academic funding continues to be cut. I'm pretty sure it isn't a priority to all the people just trying to make it from paycheck to paycheck. If it is your priority then donate to UM athletics. I donate to the College or Arts and Sciences. I used to care about UM football - not so much an more as I think the UM has more important issues to deal with. That Bodner would fund two travel positions to this event in my opinion is irresponsible.

For your concerns, I donate just about equally to athletics and to the Dept. of Chemistry, within the College of Arts and Sciences. Bodnar did not fund this and his approval was not even required. Although it would have been forthcoming; he is proud of this for the University, particularly since DD was an honor student as well as a recognized star QB. Since you don't care about UM football anymore, please find a College of Arts and Sciences forum where your concerns might be better appreciated; you are on an island here.

 

[kemajic]

Post by PlayerRep » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:45 pm
The athletic dept deciding to pay funds for the trip/event had absolutely zero impact on professors, majors, and students. Zero. It was money from the athletic department, not the academic side of UM. And, the football department is net positive to UM finances, not a drain.

I shouldn't even post this because I'm pissed off and that isn't conducive to good posts. But PR suggests that the athletic department is somehow removed from the rest of the University's budget because the "athletic department" is somehow removed from the "academic" side. Really? And the football department is a net positive so we should somehow just ignore how demeaning athletic funding, including this wasteful travel for two individuals to the hall of fame ceremony, Many, probably most, student don't give a rat's ass about athletics and just want to get a degree from a university that has a healthy differential between athletics from academics. Sorry, I don't buy it and as the University academic reputation is reduced there very may be a reduction in the athletic departments ability to recruit the type of athletes many of you say you want or are expecting. Sometimes I think that Cruzado should manage both universities

Good lord. I think I’m going to call the Associate AD and have my donation directed to pay for this trip so people like sdk can just STFU about it.

I can not BELIEVE how wrapped around the axle some folks are getting about this. THIS IS A POSITIVE!!! THIS IS GOOD NEWS!!! I swear some of you wouldn’t know a good thing if it crawled up on your face and wriggled.

The best descriptor of the entire thread!

 

[PlayerRep]

Post by PlayerRep » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:45 pm
The athletic dept deciding to pay funds for the trip/event had absolutely zero impact on professors, majors, and students. Zero. It was money from the athletic department, not the academic side of UM. And, the football department is net positive to UM finances, not a drain.

Interesting opinion PR. So your saying that the athletic department is essentially separate from the University and isn't subject to the financial constraints of a shrinking academic budget as long as athletic boosters (kind of like your previous post of today) support athletic programs first. Maybe we should just have a couple programs, more or less depending on your perspective, that are disassociated with academic programs and become basically a semi-pro vehicle to fuel the NFL. Will the players be paid under this scenario? I become more and more disillusioned with college athletics by the moment.

No, I am saying that athletic department has its own budget and gets has/gets its own funds for the year. They then can choose to spend it as they wish. How they spend the money already allocated to them has absolutely zero impact on the academic side of the university this year. The athletic department didn't get to take the funds of the English dept to pay for the trips to NYC. They used their own funds.

 

[PlayerRep]

I know! If I had to pay $0.0015 toward that flight I'm gonna be pissed

Please elaborate because I could be wrong that this was paid for from UM. Maybe your saying that as a taxpayer my portion was .00015 but even that, from my perspective is too much when UM programs are going unfunded. Can you provide an itemized invoice of what this trip for Hauck and Haslem really cost? In your opinion was it really necessary to send anybody, much less two, and wouldn't a congratulatory note from Bodner sufficed? If I am wrong about the appearance of this I will admit it and if somebody, other than the UM or the State of Montana, paid for the flight, hotel, meals etc then please elaborate and I will eat crow. But I do ask a little indulgence here in my opinion that most taxpayers in Montana don't really care whether Hauck or Haslem were there or not. There have been plenty of UM graduates that have received professional accolades of which I am one. I don't recall any UM official attending those ceremonies. So is it only athletics that count?

I'm sure your accolades were a nationally recognized hall of fame induction, too. So unfair. As far as your concern for state funding of this event, as has been pointed out, this dime comes from the AD which lives off ticket revenue and booster support. The state support for the AD is almost exclusively in the form of scholarships booked at full cost, when they are in fact incremental. But your whining is keeping the thread going.

And the state funds given to the athletic department really end up going to sports other than football, as football is self-sufficient.

 

[PlayerRep]

Much of active recruiting takes place on the phone and in texts. Also, in talking-to the other coaches and making decisions. Does South Dakota (might he actually be from North Dakota) think that Hauck on no phone/email/internet service on the trip to NY?

And, there's a rumor that Mack Brown told Hauck about couple got Texas o-linemen who wanted to transfer. I haven't been able to verify that, tho.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

As an aside, PR, have you had the dover sole at the 21 Club? Not in the main dining room, but in the lounge with the kitchy shit hanging from the ceiling where they debone it tableside. It's very good. I tried to replicate it at home with some Costco dover sole cuts, and basically made Van de Kamps fish stick innards.

 

[argh!]

you could argue that dave dickenson indirectly made a very large amount of money for um, via football success that contributed to a very long period of arguably greater football success. i don't know why anyone would have a problem with um spending a few bucks to send a couple reps to take part in honoring him.

 

[PlayerRep]

As an aside, PR, have you had the dover sole at the 21 Club? Not in the main dining room, but in the lounge with the kitchy shit hanging from the ceiling where they debone it tableside. It's very good. I tried to replicate it at home with some Costco dover sole cuts, and basically made Van de Kamps fish stick innards.

Don't know if you are serious, but have only eaten at the 21 Club several times. Have had drinks on the main floor bar, which may be the room you are referring too. Can't remember what I ate there, but probably not Dover Sol.

My Dartmouth buddy who had the lunch at the 21 Club for the event, also does a lunch for the Dartmouth guys who come to the Ivy football dinner, which is held every two years. It's a fun event in a private room upstairs. Ed Marinaro aka Marty Daniels comes.

The first time I went to the 21 Club, I was taken by my friend Murry. I was a lawyer in NYC then. Another football buddy went with us. We ate in the main dining room. We got into it with a waiter who grabbed my friend's arm when he went to pour us more wine. We got kicked out. We were probably having steak, and not Dover Soul. Big mistake. Even though it's been 40 years, I still wear a disguise when I go to the 21 Club.

Remind me to tell you about my first time at the Four Season restaurant sometime.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Dead serious. And great story.
I've only eaten at 21 twice.

 

[Allezchat]

"Dickenson, though, was the lone inductee in this year’s class who has won a high school state title, a college national championship, a title as a professional player and a championship as a professional head coach. He checked the last item off that list nine days earlier when his Calgary Stampeders won the Grey Cup in the CFL."

"Dickenson is just the fourth player from the Big Sky Conference to be inducted. In total, only 997 college football players out of approximately 5.5 million have been inducted, which is roughly 0.02 percent of players."

"There is simply no higher honor that a student-athlete can receive, and there's no one more deserving than Dave," University of Montana president Seth Bodnar said in the video shared on Twitter."

.....two.....two state titles.....

 

[bigkid]

On the flip side what would folks think if The University of Montana didn’t attend at any level? Personally I would be disappointed. We would have missed out on a good moment in Griz history.

 

[Copper Griz]

On the flip side what would folks think if The University of Montana didn’t attend at any level? Personally I would be disappointed. We would have missed out on a good moment in Griz history.

Oh good Lord. Let this thread die. Are you trying to get it to go 17 pages? :lol:

 

[bigkid]