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Hauck on UM QB's

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"Sam Vidlak, Clifton McDowell and Kris Brown will be vying for the Montana Grizzlies’ starting quarterback job during fall camp, according to UM head coach Bobby Hauck.

“It’s really a three-man competition,” Hauck said

The Griz are expected to have six quarterbacks on their roster this fall. That leaves redshirt freshman Kaden Huot as the likely fourth-stringer while true freshmen Keali’i Ah Yat and Gage Sliter will be in line to take a redshirt season.

Performance will be the deciding factor for Hauck in naming a starter.

“There’s not going to be some flashing light or magic wand that gives it away,” he said. “Just got to play well, play smart.”

The list of qualities Hauck looks for in his quarterbacks is long.

“Feel for the game,” he said. “Accuracy. Understanding of the scheme. The ability to get the ball going in the right place, whether it’s run game or pass game.

“Then the intangible things. The competitiveness I think is really important. Toughness is important, even though it’s not exposed in practice like it is at some other positions because we don’t tackle those guys. Those are the things you’re looking for.

“All the great ones have all of those. Good ones have most of them.”

“Sam, he’s a younger guy, but he has done such a good job coming into this program and being able to show the maturity of a guy who wants to be the guy at quarterback,” UM center AJ Forbes said after blocking for him in practices. “He’s done a great job of taking the offense.

"Me and him, I’ve been taking him and watching film with him to try to help him on with the offense. We’ve been meeting two or three times a week over the course of this offseason just to make him comfortable with the system.”

“Sam has a nice, pretty ball,” UM defensive back TraJon Cotton said after going up against him in practices. “His deep ball is real nice and he’s real accurate with it. He’s real precise. I just like the way Sam rips it.”

McDowell, a Texas native who stands at 6-4 and 220 pounds, is a grad transfer who has two seasons of eligibility left.

“He’s kind of a dual-threat,” Cotton said. “He can run real nice. He’s been running fast times all summer. He’s also a nice passer as well.

“The first week he got here he was kind of just learning the offense, kind of getting his feet wet. And then probably the last two weeks during player-run practices he’s been ripping it and he’s been running it as well. It’s going to be fun.”

“He brings something different than Sam does,” Forbes said. “You look at Sam, he’s a prototypical pocket passer. He’s going to dime you up.

“Then you talk about Clifton, who is a physical freak. He’s a real strong runner. You look at the film that he had at Central Arkansas and you can see that he’s a big, powerful runner.

“I’m not sure what Sam and Clifton’s roles are going to be on the team, but I think they have the potential to be really good.”

Whoever wins the job will be behind an offensive line that returns all five starters. They’ll also have a plethora of playmakers at the skill positions.

“We’ll be multiple,” Hauck said of the new offense. “We’re going to be able to run. We’re going to be able to throw it.

“I thought spring ball was really good. I think the summer work’s been terrific. We’ve got some prep to do before we get to our first game. But we’ll be excited to play our opener.”

https://missoulian.com/sports/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/montana-grizzlies-quarterback-battle-bobby-hauck/article_9e268c3a-5f6b-5789-a450-24373818e857.html
 
Is anyone convinced there are 2 + QBs on the roster who can execute he breadth of the playbook in the tough games? Seems they have 2 very different QBs in V and Mc.

At this point last season most - including me were pretty happy the Johnson QB 1 and Brown QB 2 set-up.

Are the Griz in a better position this season? Why?
 
SoldierGriz said:
Is anyone convinced there are 2 + QBs on the roster who can execute he breadth of the playbook in the tough games? Seems they have 2 very different QBs in V and Mc.

At this point last season most - including me were pretty happy the Johnson QB 1 and Brown QB 2 set-up.

Are the Griz in a better position this season? Why?

QB wise? Yes. V has the downfield ability, vision, and poise. M is getting there in understanding, but his strength is going to be running it and being outside the pocket. The +1 running scheme out of a more pro set and being able to stretch the field at is going to be trouble. I’d like them to be at the point where they can sub each other mid-drive without issue.

I like the idea that the qb that is the main run threat isn’t the whole of the offense. When we had to replace Johnson last year (who was both), the wheels really fell off. Having a 1A that can run a pro style and a 1B that can run the spread option? That sounds like a recipe for a DC’s migraine.

Both of them together makes offense much more multi-faceted. We all thought that Sac’s O was pretty good last year. We have the ability to do it in Missoula this year. At the very least it’s going to make things interesting. I’d love me some Chip Kelly Oregon Ducks type offensive numbers. A guy can dream right?
 
good to have 3 qb's competing for the job. Hopefully it will be a dog fight right to opening day and next man up mentality will stronger than ever.
 
SoldierGriz said:
Is anyone convinced there are 2 + QBs on the roster who can execute he breadth of the playbook in the tough games? Seems they have 2 very different QBs in V and Mc.

At this point last season most - including me were pretty happy the Johnson QB 1 and Brown QB 2 set-up.

Are the Griz in a better position this season? Why?

Who was happy last year?

Johnson was 1A
Sick Johnson was 1B
Injured Johnson was 1C
.
.
.
.
.
Brown was option 2
 
AZGrizFan said:
SoldierGriz said:
Is anyone convinced there are 2 + QBs on the roster who can execute he breadth of the playbook in the tough games? Seems they have 2 very different QBs in V and Mc.

At this point last season most - including me were pretty happy the Johnson QB 1 and Brown QB 2 set-up.

Are the Griz in a better position this season? Why?

Who was happy last year?

Johnson was 1A
Sick Johnson was 1B
Injured Johnson was 1C
.
.
.
.
.
Brown was option 2

So now you have an unproven QB that is likely not as good as Johnson, and can't run, and you still have Brown as QB2, and then who knows behind that. Do I got it?
 
AZGrizFan said:
SoldierGriz said:
Is anyone convinced there are 2 + QBs on the roster who can execute he breadth of the playbook in the tough games? Seems they have 2 very different QBs in V and Mc.

At this point last season most - including me were pretty happy the Johnson QB 1 and Brown QB 2 set-up.

Are the Griz in a better position this season? Why?

Who was happy last year?

Johnson was 1A
Sick Johnson was 1B
Injured Johnson was 1C
.
.
.
.
.
Brown was option 2

That's certainly how it turned out. But, I don't recall much hand-wringing pre-season?
 
SoldierGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Who was happy last year?

Johnson was 1A
Sick Johnson was 1B
Injured Johnson was 1C
.
.
.
.
.
Brown was option 2

That's certainly how it turned out. But, I don't recall much hand-wringing pre-season?

Handwrining didn't ensue because the prevailing themes of the 2022 team were defense and special teams. They were being counted on heavily to be the difference. Johnson was the ideal type to run the offense Rosey wanted. If "the guy" was on the roster at the end of 2021, there probably would have been a transfer, but not one who came with as much fanfare - having lead an FBS team to a ten win season, yada, yada, yada. You recall that no one came in to challenge Sneed in year two. But sure, there was a competition. He was the starter and would have been even if Justin Herbert had fallen into their laps. My point, if you know you've got a guy, you've got a guy, and everyone knows it. You think there's a competition going on over in Spudville or bozeman? There are likely, some pretty legit efforts to have guys in place to answer the bell in case of emergency. If only. Johnson was critical, because "the guy" wasn't on the roster prior to his arrival. If you watched the the national quarter final, you know that.

They went out and found two transfers and we know they were auditioning at least one other FBS body to ensure that 2022 didn't repeat itself. It was clearly the right thing to do given what's at stake. And because writers ask the questions, the someone who matters has got to have answers. Nobody really paying attention would buy the statement made on it's face, given what happened at the end of each of the last two seasons. But it's a competition. Sure.
 
bgbigdog said:
SoldierGriz said:
That's certainly how it turned out. But, I don't recall much hand-wringing pre-season?

Handwrining didn't ensue because the prevailing themes of the 2022 team were defense and special teams. They were being counted on heavily to be the difference. Johnson was the ideal type to run the offense Rosey wanted. If "the guy" was on the roster at the end of 2021, there probably would have been a transfer, but not one who came with as much fanfare - having lead an FBS team to a ten win season, yada, yada, yada. You recall that no one came in to challenge Sneed in year two. But sure, there was a competition. He was the starter and would have been even if Justin Herbert had fallen into their laps. My point, if you know you've got a guy, you've got a guy, and everyone knows it. You think there's a competition going on over in Spudville or bozeman? There are likely, some pretty legit efforts to have guys in place to answer the bell in case of emergency. If only. Johnson was critical, because "the guy" wasn't on the roster prior to his arrival. If you watched the the national quarter final, you know that.

They went out and found two transfers and we know they were auditioning at least one other FBS body to ensure that 2022 didn't repeat itself. It was clearly the right thing to do given what's at stake. And because writers ask the questions, the someone who matters has got to have answers. Nobody really paying attention would buy the statement made on it's face, given what happened at the end of each of the last two seasons. But it's a competition. Sure.

Yeah, much like our "national searches" to hire a new head coach
 
Allezchat said:
I'm excited there's a chance still that Brown could be the starter! I'm pulling for him to win the job!

I would be really pleased if Brown made a miraculous turn around this year. Don’t believe it is going to happen. A great kid with a ton of commitment. Hope he sees the field in some capacity. The QB situation will be better because the offensive line is better. Running backs are great and if the O coordinator does his job, the Griz will be tough to stop this year. I would really like to see one damn year where there is not a true QB competition and you know who the #1 is heading into spring and fall camp. Yes, Hauck always believes in guys competing.
 
poorgriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Who was happy last year?

Johnson was 1A
Sick Johnson was 1B
Injured Johnson was 1C
.
.
.
.
.
Brown was option 2

So now you have an unproven QB that is likely not as good as Johnson, and can't run, and you still have Brown as QB2, and then who knows behind that. Do I got it?

Not even remotely close. But keep trying.
 
Hypothetical - Griz down by 10 with 5 minutes to go. Griz have the ball at their own 35. V gets injured. It's 3rd and 9.

Which QB enters the game? The guy who can run over people? Or, KB who can execute the whole playbook?
 
That's a lot of inexperience at quarterback. Gush about potential all you want, but we'd all trade it for a second year starter in a minute.

There might be a half dozen or so passers on the roster, but they're going to have to rename the meeting area for QBs "The Green Room."
 
Who says that Vidlak can't run? The fact that he chooses not to does not mean he can't! IMHO he made enough plays in the Spring game with his feet to show that he can get out out of trouble and can move/run if he needs to.

Having said that, he would certainly not be the first option as a dual threat QB.
 
bgbigdog said:
SoldierGriz said:
That's certainly how it turned out. But, I don't recall much hand-wringing pre-season?

Handwrining didn't ensue because the prevailing themes of the 2022 team were defense and special teams. They were being counted on heavily to be the difference. Johnson was the ideal type to run the offense Rosey wanted. If "the guy" was on the roster at the end of 2021, there probably would have been a transfer, but not one who came with as much fanfare - having lead an FBS team to a ten win season, yada, yada, yada. You recall that no one came in to challenge Sneed in year two. But sure, there was a competition. He was the starter and would have been even if Justin Herbert had fallen into their laps. My point, if you know you've got a guy, you've got a guy, and everyone knows it. You think there's a competition going on over in Spudville or bozeman? There are likely, some pretty legit efforts to have guys in place to answer the bell in case of emergency. If only. Johnson was critical, because "the guy" wasn't on the roster prior to his arrival. If you watched the the national quarter final, you know that.

They went out and found two transfers and we know they were auditioning at least one other FBS body to ensure that 2022 didn't repeat itself. It was clearly the right thing to do given what's at stake. And because writers ask the questions, the someone who matters has got to have answers. Nobody really paying attention would buy the statement made on it's face, given what happened at the end of each of the last two seasons. But it's a competition. Sure.

If only this was happening in the MsdUi drunk driving cases.

And I wholeheartedly agree with the rest of your post.
 
EverettGriz said:
bgbigdog said:
Handwrining didn't ensue because the prevailing themes of the 2022 team were defense and special teams. They were being counted on heavily to be the difference. Johnson was the ideal type to run the offense Rosey wanted. If "the guy" was on the roster at the end of 2021, there probably would have been a transfer, but not one who came with as much fanfare - having lead an FBS team to a ten win season, yada, yada, yada. You recall that no one came in to challenge Sneed in year two. But sure, there was a competition. He was the starter and would have been even if Justin Herbert had fallen into their laps. My point, if you know you've got a guy, you've got a guy, and everyone knows it. You think there's a competition going on over in Spudville or bozeman? There are likely, some pretty legit efforts to have guys in place to answer the bell in case of emergency. If only. Johnson was critical, because "the guy" wasn't on the roster prior to his arrival. If you watched the the national quarter final, you know that.

They went out and found two transfers and we know they were auditioning at least one other FBS body to ensure that 2022 didn't repeat itself. It was clearly the right thing to do given what's at stake. And because writers ask the questions, the someone who matters has got to have answers. Nobody really paying attention would buy the statement made on it's face, given what happened at the end of each of the last two seasons. But it's a competition. Sure.

If only this was happening in the MsdUi drunk driving cases.

And I wholeheartedly agree with the rest of your post.

For the sports guys, it's a question of continuing access, regardless of what they say. Where I live, the kids at Medill were the ones to break the stories on the mess that is now Northwestern Athletics. Try as they might, the administration couldn't keep a lid on it. Right now, Waded has her thumb on the scale, hence the delays in adjudicating some pretty clear cut crimes. Oh yeah, nobody in bozeman can string a sentence together without AI. As you've seen by their participation here.
 
griz4life said:
That's a lot of inexperience at quarterback. Gush about potential all you want, but we'd all trade it for a second year starter in a minute.

There might be a half dozen or so passers on the roster, but they're going to have to rename the meeting area for QBs "The Green Room."

Well, theoretically we’ll HAVE a 2nd year starter next year. And possibly a THIRD year starter the year after that. I mean, at some point EVERY starter is a “first year starter”.
 
AZGrizFan said:
griz4life said:
That's a lot of inexperience at quarterback. Gush about potential all you want, but we'd all trade it for a second year starter in a minute.

There might be a half dozen or so passers on the roster, but they're going to have to rename the meeting area for QBs "The Green Room."

Well, theoretically we’ll HAVE a 2nd year starter next year. And possibly a THIRD year starter the year after that. I mean, at some point EVERY starter is a “first year starter”.

We don’t know how good Vidlak is in our new offense we

We don’t’ know how good the new kid is either

We don’t know if Brown is better in this offense or not

We don’t run triple-option run game out of the shotgun the entire time like the Bobcats. When you run non traditional offenses, you can play non-traditional qbs like Mellot and Chambers.

I think it’s cool but let’s call a gimmick system for what it is….
 
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