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hats off to the lady griz!

citygriz

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viewed one way, the history of montana athletics has been the steady dumbing down of the competition. we went from the old pacifc coast conference (where we couldn't compete) to the old skyline conference (where we still couldn't compete) to the old big sky conference (where we could compete) to the new big sky conference sans idaho, nevada and boise state (where we dominate).

in football, we compete for a "national championship" but only after we've eliminated the top 115 teams in the country, and have dumbed down the schedule to farcial proportions by pitting one of our strongest teams ever against albany state and fort looie state. sub, indeed.

in men's basketball, our conference champion comes into the tournament with a sagarin rating of 167, while a steady slide in average home attendance from over 7000 to down around 4000 still leads a league in which bandbox gyms are the norm and only one other school, weber, has a facility worthy of a major college program. howard hughes will rise from his grave and sign autographs at the bellagio before the big sky ever gets two teams into the big dance.

all of which serves as the backdrop for the phenomonan that we know as the lady griz. much as i praised selvig's willingness to go out and play anybody in the country, i was frankly skeptical of his all-time record (35 wins against pac 10 teams, three against big ten teams including one in the ncaa tournament against wisconsin on their floor, and all-time series advantages over brigham young, colorado, gonzaga, iowa state, memphis, nevada, boise state, notre dame, oklahoma, rice, st. john's, san francisco, santa clara, syracuse, utah, utah state, washington state and wyoming, not to mention every team in the current big sky conference, including a 22-0 whitewash of sac state.

no, many of these victories, i felt, had come in an earlier era, before the big schools put money and promotional effort into their women's programs. by not recruiting black players, and relying on primarily home-grown white talent, i figured time had passed robin selvig by, that while his winning record would be acknowledged by a few historians somewhere, he'd mainly be remembered as one of the early-day pioneers of women's basketball that, like wayland baptist, just wasn't able to keep up once the big schools took the sport over.

was i ever...wrong!

not only does selvig have his team flirting with a top 25 rating, he's continued to do it his way, with largely in-state talent, and he's done it with an extremely young sophomore-dominated crew that wasn't even picked to win the big sky conference. as a further plus, the pipeline of incoming talent, both certain (dvera tolbert) and potential (jocelyn tinkle, ali hurley, cindy selvig) assures that selvig is going to go out as one of the top women's coaches of all-time. and not of division 2 or naia or sub-division this or that, but against the best the country has to offer.

not bad for a kid from outlook. and not bad at a school whose attitude seems to be, the worse the competition we can play, the better the chance to win and the happier we are.

selvig has proved it can be othewise for montana athletics, and i congratulate him for it.
 
:clap: :clap: Anyone else reading between the lines? Keep it up CITY, hopefully your hard work and diligence on the subject you did not mention, but referred to between the lines will happen in your lifetime.
 
as a further plus, the pipeline of incoming talent, both certain (dvera tolbert) and potential (jocelyn tinkle, ali hurley, cindy selvig) assures that selvig is going to go out as one of the top women's coaches of all-time.

Insofar as potential recruits for the next couple years I would say that there is definitely more in the State of Montana than one Ali Hurley. Whether they develop both athletically and academically is another thing. There is also the fact that a team has needs per position and that looks like a PG being recruited in the near future, at least I would venture a guess as such, since there were two players (Schmitz & DeShazer) at that position that are no longer with the team.

There could be about a half dozen players in Montana next year that could possibly be considered Division I material. It all depends. Of course, that doesn't preclude out-of-state recruits as well. The LG has had some moderate success with that avenue of talent as well in the past few years.
But if the LG has a chance to secure a LOI from a player from out of the country that's rated a five-star, I don't think I'd mind that either as well.
 
City, you have come a long ways from two months ago when you were tearing the program apart. Welcome to reality! Good post overall but I just can't agree with the black athlete bit, maybe in football, mens basketball, but not women's basketball. Have you seen the WNBA lately? There are plenty of white female athletes in the WNBA. The reality is the ratio of white female athletes in the WNBA is much greater than the other sports. Montana has and will continue to win as long as Coach Selvig is in the position. The women's basketball program markets itself and does not have to worry about putting fans in the seats like the mens program. Selvig is a breath of fresh air in the era of "better situations".
 
bigtyme: i confess to being critical of selvig for not recruiting black athletes (one in 27 years!) but i've always commended selvig for his coaching (especially the defensive intensity the lady griz have always had), his willingness to go out and play big-time programs (this year, ohio state) and his recruiting of montana's native american talent. "two months ago" i was either in santa clara or ogden, yelling myself hoarse for this team, hardly "tearing the program apart."
 
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