Has Bobby Ever…..

[grizghost]

Well I did see Tim Hauck on the sidelines....hopefully he told his brother to get his sh#t together..
and let some of these unfruitful coaches go before the ship sinks! I personally would like to see
what Britt could do...maybe let the fire like Mallot did with the Cats...didn't the Vandals have Frosh
QB....I think the kid has some fire in his belly!

 

[SoldierGriz]

bump.

Do you all get the feeling like Hauck's assistants can simply coast and aren't afraid of being shit-canned? I don't want Hauck fired in anyway but he is untouchable under the UM umbrella and I feel like he can take advantage of that with his assistants.

During the first round I couldn't stand Paulson's defense (Especially when we had to face an option team, or his inability to adjust his defense) and I always felt he was protected. Then, he was one of the first to get axed at UNLV when Bobby got pressure.

One loss can get fans fired up especially when some coaches on the team say "this is the best WR group I've ever had." If that's true, then utilize it, and quit fu%cking around (Rosenbach and Pease). Regarding the O-line, how the hell we don't move on from Germer is still mind-blowing at this point.............Wash, Rinse, and Repeat every year.

This staff and team will make it just interesting enough for me to second guess myself (I wont speak for all of you), and to be honest I hope it happens this weekend by beating SAC but that's a tough hill to climb when the offense and special teams are in the rut that they are.

Good post. Business decisions need to be made. If BH doesn't do so....says a ton about BH....of whom I am a big fan.

 

[mthoopsfan]

bump.

Do you all get the feeling like Hauck's assistants can simply coast and aren't afraid of being shit-canned? I don't want Hauck fired in anyway but he is untouchable under the UM umbrella and I feel like he can take advantage of that with his assistants.

During the first round I couldn't stand Paulson's defense (Especially when we had to face an option team, or his inability to adjust his defense) and I always felt he was protected. Then, he was one of the first to get axed at UNLV when Bobby got pressure.

One loss can get fans fired up especially when some coaches on the team say "this is the best WR group I've ever had." If that's true, then utilize it, and quit fu%cking around (Rosenbach and Pease). Regarding the O-line, how the hell we don't move on from Germer is still mind-blowing at this point.............Wash, Rinse, and Repeat every year.

This staff and team will make it just interesting enough for me to second guess myself (I wont speak for all of you), and to be honest I hope it happens this weekend by beating SAC but that's a tough hill to climb when the offense and special teams are in the rut that they are.

Good post. Business decisions need to be made. If BH doesn't do so....says a ton about BH....of whom I am a big fan.

There are no business decisions to be made. Griz have a great staff.

 

[Ursus1]

I figured out from watching the press conference today the one change Bobby made was.....he went with the medium T-shirt over the large. Other than that seems the someone on here is full of crap. Easy to throw out a made up rumor, but back it up in any way shape or form Indiancoyote hasn't, nor has there been any other evidence. Bobby looked like a little whiny kid who had his feelings hurt by the questions, not like someone than really is confident in the bounce back or believes they will beat Sac. Mark it down, Sac wins easily.

 

[Chucknduck]

Good post. Business decisions need to be made. If BH doesn't do so....says a ton about BH....of whom I am a big fan.

There are no business decisions to be made. Griz have a great staff.

I respect what you said, and you have no clue how bad I want to agree with this, but could you please elaborate on why you think it’s a great staff? You don’t think there’s a weak link(s)? Change my mind please.

 

[gotgame75]

I figured out from watching the press conference today the one change Bobby made was.....he went with the medium T-shirt over the large. Other than that seems the someone on here is full of crap. Easy to throw out a made up rumor, but back it up in any way shape or form Indiancoyote hasn't, nor has there been any other evidence. Bobby looked like a little whiny kid who had his feelings hurt by the questions, not like someone than really is confident in the bounce back or believes they will beat Sac. Mark it down, Sac wins easily.

I personally had a high degree of confidence that we'd lose on Saturday once I saw Bobby's half time commentary. I figured he'd have been outraged with the way we played in the first half, but he seemed almost ok with it.

 

[mthoopsfan]

There are no business decisions to be made. Griz have a great staff.

I respect what you said, and you have no clue how bad I want to agree with this, but could you please elaborate on why you think it’s a great staff? You don’t think there’s a weak link(s)? Change my mind please.

I know most, but not all, of the assistants. They are good. I know from pervious times that Hauck has confidence in the guys he's had for a long time. I haven't been around Hauck when he was talking about coaches in the last couple years. Who do you think should be fired?

 

[Chucknduck]

I respect what you said, and you have no clue how bad I want to agree with this, but could you please elaborate on why you think it’s a great staff? You don’t think there’s a weak link(s)? Change my mind please.

I know most, but not all, of the assistants. They are good. I know from pervious times that Hauck has confidence in the guys he's had for a long time. I haven't been around Hauck when he was talking about coaches in the last couple years. Who do you think should be fired?

I wouldn’t necessarily say “fired” and maybe I should not have use the term “weak link” but the main thing I’m afraid of with some of the staff is that they’re coasting in their jobs and don’t have any more to prove. There is gobs and gobs of experience on this staff and I hope the U isn’t a pre retirement home for some. Anyhow, Pease is the first that comes to mind, but Rosenbach and Germer still may have something left to fight for in their careers. What would it take for one of them to be on the hot seat with Hauck?

I have zero issues with the Defense. It’s hard to be successful when the offense and special teams are so stagnant as of late.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Good post. Business decisions need to be made. If BH doesn't do so....says a ton about BH....of whom I am a big fan.

There are no business decisions to be made. Griz have a great staff.

To what do you attribute our recent play?

A) coaching
B) coaches
C) A specific coach
D) all of the above

 

[mthoopsfan]

There are no business decisions to be made. Griz have a great staff.

To what do you attribute our recent play?

A) coaching
B) coaches
C) A specific coach
D) all of the above

Players making too many mistakes.

I don't think coaching caused these mistakes: 2 picks in the 4th on shorter quick passes, a number of missed of throws to open receivers, several drops by receivers, a dropped snap by the punter for safety, the inability to handle an onside kick, a dropped snap by the QB, a fumbled read handoff by qb/rb, a low short lateral from a back to the qb, 2 players biting for a run and leaving a receiver wide open, a TD reception for a covered receiver when the corner was right there, a questionable call by a ref (or mistake by player) on for a late hit on the qb, the qb not recognizing open check-down flare passes, a missed extra point that was kicked way too low.

 

[kemajic]

Good post. Business decisions need to be made. If BH doesn't do so....says a ton about BH....of whom I am a big fan.

There are no business decisions to be made. Griz have a great staff.

Our great staff has a very underperforming offense.

 

[kemajic]

To what do you attribute our recent play?

A) coaching
B) coaches
C) A specific coach
D) all of the above

Players making too many mistakes.

I don't think coaching caused these mistakes: 2 picks in the 4th on shorter quick passes, a number of missed of throws to open receivers, several drops by receivers, a dropped snap by the punter for safety, the inability to handle an onside kick, a dropped snap by the QB, a fumbled read handoff by qb/rb, a low short lateral from a back to the qb, 2 players biting for a run and leaving a receiver wide open, a TD reception for a covered receiver when the corner was right there, a questionable call by a ref (or mistake by player) on for a late hit on the qb, the qb not recognizing open check-down flare passes, a missed extra point that was kicked way too low.

In other words, don't hold coaches accountable for shitty play.

 

[kemajic]

Has Bobby ever..... lost 3 successive BSC games?

 

[Chucknduck]

There are no business decisions to be made. Griz have a great staff.

Our great staff has a very underperforming offense.

Finally someone said it. For all the experience, one would think these guy (in year 5 mind you & with all of Pease' WR hype, Rosenbach's pre Montana Resume, legendary new offensive analysist) would have a juggernaut by now. Pease is really the only one that confuses me as to why he's here as a wide receivers coach with his resume. They just got flexed on by an Idaho defense (and ISU, IMO) with a first year coaching staff. Too many egos/philosophies in the kitchen? Or, are some just not pulling their weight because they live in Montana and can fly fish when ever they want (kinda joking) and are living a pre retirement lifestyle? In my line of work, I see people coasting till retirement and are literally dead weight in the workplace and I really hope this isn't happening within coaching staff at my alma mater.

 

[#15 Fan]

To what do you attribute our recent play?

A) coaching
B) coaches
C) A specific coach
D) all of the above

Players making too many mistakes.

I don't think coaching caused these mistakes: 2 picks in the 4th on shorter quick passes, a number of missed of throws to open receivers, several drops by receivers, a dropped snap by the punter for safety, the inability to handle an onside kick, a dropped snap by the QB, a fumbled read handoff by qb/rb, a low short lateral from a back to the qb, 2 players biting for a run and leaving a receiver wide open, a TD reception for a covered receiver when the corner was right there, a questionable call by a ref (or mistake by player) on for a late hit on the qb, the qb not recognizing open check-down flare passes, a missed extra point that was kicked way too low.

Coaches are putting our players in situations that are forcing mistakes. I agree: dropped snap by punter, dropped passes by receivers, fumbled read handoff...not those are not directly on the coaching staff. But these are: 2 INT's (first one I can live with, but throwing the EXACT same throw on the EXACT same play...that's poor play-calling); missed throws to open receivers (if he doesn't have time, or isn't play-called to roll-out, that an OC/OLine coaching issue); onside kick (absolutely on the coach, the HEAD coach aka ST coach); the lateral play (the line sucked on that bad, seeing a trend of average-at-best Oline play this game); 2 players biting for a run and leaving a receiver open (if this was a one-off, I'd give you that, but it's every game, and generally involves Hauck over the last few years, that's on the DC & DB's coaches); questionable calls by the refs (roughing the passer, nothing you can do, but call a damn timeout and challenge the spot, especially in the 4th quarter...they wasted a lot of time early in the 4th, and as a coach you have to know where you sit in TOP going into the 4th and that having the ball will be few & far between, have to make those adjustments); QB not recognizing check-downs (how as a QB coach do you not sit down with your QB at halftime or in the 2nd half and say, "hey dumbsh!t, your guys are wide open in the flats, throw them the damn ball!...yes, that's on the coaches); missed extra point (well it was blocked, and if you watched the replay it was a completely missed block where the defensive guy got through the line, so yes, that's a coaching error, not a low kick).

I think there is a ton of overreaction after these two games, but Idaho exposed a lot of our deficiencies because the Griz flat-out got out-coached in every facet of the game. Was it arrogance? Who knows, but that won't fly going forward if we plan to get a seed in the playoffs. We can right the ship, and if the team that played the first few games shows up, we'll have a really good chance to upset suck state.

 

[AZGrizFan]

To what do you attribute our recent play?

A) coaching
B) coaches
C) A specific coach
D) all of the above

Players making too many mistakes.

I don't think coaching caused these mistakes: 2 picks in the 4th on shorter quick passes, a number of missed of throws to open receivers, several drops by receivers, a dropped snap by the punter for safety, the inability to handle an onside kick, a dropped snap by the QB, a fumbled read handoff by qb/rb, a low short lateral from a back to the qb, 2 players biting for a run and leaving a receiver wide open, a TD reception for a covered receiver when the corner was right there, a questionable call by a ref (or mistake by player) on for a late hit on the qb, the qb not recognizing open check-down flare passes, a missed extra point that was kicked way too low.

see, that's where you and I disagree. Coaching can and SHOULD help players eliminate EXACTLY those mistakes. At least many of them. Throws to make. Throws to not make. Tendencies to look for. Weaknesses to exploit. How not to fumble. What to look for when receiving a kickoff. Shit like THAT.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Players making too many mistakes.

I don't think coaching caused these mistakes: 2 picks in the 4th on shorter quick passes, a number of missed of throws to open receivers, several drops by receivers, a dropped snap by the punter for safety, the inability to handle an onside kick, a dropped snap by the QB, a fumbled read handoff by qb/rb, a low short lateral from a back to the qb, 2 players biting for a run and leaving a receiver wide open, a TD reception for a covered receiver when the corner was right there, a questionable call by a ref (or mistake by player) on for a late hit on the qb, the qb not recognizing open check-down flare passes, a missed extra point that was kicked way too low.

see, that's where you and I disagree. Coaching can and SHOULD help players eliminate EXACTLY those mistakes. At least many of them. Throws to make. Throws to not make. Tendencies to look for. Weaknesses to exploit. How not to fumble. What to look for when receiving a kickoff. Shit like THAT.

The coaches have already worked on all of those things. The players made those mistakes. No coach in the world would tell Johnson to make/force those two quick throws for picks. The coaches work with the QB's, and other players, with tendencies and weakness all week. Even your frosh coaches at Sentinel should have worked on some of those things with you. Ha.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Players making too many mistakes.

I don't think coaching caused these mistakes: 2 picks in the 4th on shorter quick passes, a number of missed of throws to open receivers, several drops by receivers, a dropped snap by the punter for safety, the inability to handle an onside kick, a dropped snap by the QB, a fumbled read handoff by qb/rb, a low short lateral from a back to the qb, 2 players biting for a run and leaving a receiver wide open, a TD reception for a covered receiver when the corner was right there, a questionable call by a ref (or mistake by player) on for a late hit on the qb, the qb not recognizing open check-down flare passes, a missed extra point that was kicked way too low.

In other words, don't hold coaches accountable for shitty play.

I said nothing/zero about the coaches. I made list of mistakes that I believe were made by players. And a few bad plays perhaps.'

Hauck already said that they/he need to coach better. He also said that Idaho did nothing to surprise them. Thus, I assume the team was prepared scheme-wise.

Feel free to give your view on how the coaches contributed to players making those mistakes.

 

[AZGrizFan]

see, that's where you and I disagree. Coaching can and SHOULD help players eliminate EXACTLY those mistakes. At least many of them. Throws to make. Throws to not make. Tendencies to look for. Weaknesses to exploit. How not to fumble. What to look for when receiving a kickoff. Shit like THAT.

The coaches have already worked on all of those things. The players made those mistakes. No coach in the world would tell Johnson to make/force those two quick throws for picks. The coaches work with the QB's, and other players, with tendencies and weakness all week. Even your frosh coaches at Sentinel should have worked on some of those things with you. Ha.

Yeah, as the 3rd string DE on the Freshman Gold team I was priority #1 for the Freshman coaches. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[PTGrizzly]

Our great staff has a very underperforming offense.

Finally someone said it. For all the experience, one would think these guy (in year 5 mind you & with all of Pease' WR hype, Rosenbach's pre Montana Resume, legendary new offensive analysist) would have a juggernaut by now. Pease is really the only one that confuses me as to why he's here as a wide receivers coach with his resume. They just got flexed on by an Idaho defense (and ISU, IMO) with a first year coaching staff. Too many egos/philosophies in the kitchen? Or, are some just not pulling their weight because they live in Montana and can fly fish when ever they want (kinda joking) and are living a pre retirement lifestyle? In my line of work, I see people coasting till retirement and are literally dead weight in the workplace and I really hope this isn't happening within coaching staff at my alma mater.

Pease is here because he’s caused problems everywhere he’s been for the past decade or so. He’s a good coach, but has personality issues. Chris Peterson almost never fires coaches, and even he got rid of Pease near the end of his tenure.