Gus throwing high consistantly

[grizindabox]

So Gus should stop smoking the hippie lettuce and his throwing would improve?

 

[BigSkyBears]

One thing that is going to continue to be a huge problem for Gus is his propensity to throw a pass high over the receiver's head several times a game. This has been a consistent pattern for Brady, as I witnessed it in the fall scrimmages, as well as in the first too games. As any astute football fan knows, throwing high is a serious problem, especially against zone coverage. It leads to easy interceptions, like we witnessed on Saturday. If a QB is going to miss, you want him to miss low, not on an over-throw.

The problem is, many QBs never lose that propensity to over-throw receivers, and I am concerned that Gus will be one of them. In the NFL, Jeff George had that problem throughout his career, leading to lots of interceptions. Among the current NFL QBs, Andy Dalton has been plagued with the same problem. Just sayin'.

Let's hope those astute football fans know the difference between "too," and "two."

Go back to following your glorified high school team.

Oh, you got me there! I've never heard that one before.

 

[Grizzoola]

Grady, just aim for the numbers. If you're too high, he'll be able to reach it. If too low, he'll either catch it, or it'll be a dead ball. (Why am I not the Griz QB coach? Haha.)

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

What is "consistantly?" It's not a word, so it must be something else.

You are such a meathead. what are you, our resident English proctor? GFY. Stick to useless posts, cause you have no game in the football arena.

CDA = "Certified Dumb Ass"

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

The credo for any physician graduating from medical school is "first, do no harm". The same should be said for a QB. If 60% of his passes are on target, but he throws enough errant passes each game to allow interceptions, then he is not the answer. Don't throw the pass unless you KNOW the receiver is open, and on the same route you expect him to be. It will be very difficult to win if we keep turning the ball over at our current rate. Duh, huh?

 

[argh!]

i was going to make a 420 comment, but...

 

[Grizzoola]

In the FCS, at least, being a tall QB does not guarantee a successful QB. Witness DD. Stitt started BG because of qualities other than his height: ability to access a situation, make quick decisions, be accurate, etc. Against CP, as others have pointed out, he did not do either. Maybe he accessed a situation, but it's questionable re: quick decisions in focusing on his primary receiver from the snap. This is not a quick decision.

A question arises: Is Brady the QB Stitt thought he was? Maybe he is, & the last game is an anomaly for Brady. Stitt, et al., will work this out, and I'm in no position to 2d guess the coach. I do hope Brady shows better vs. Liberty. With 2 weeks of work after two games, I'm hopeful that Brady's performance will improve.

 

[ordigger]

Jordan Johnson gets too many passes batted by the D line;

"WE NEED A TALLER QB! HE'S TOO SHORT THIS WONT WORK!!!"

Brady Gustafson overthrows too much in one game;

"HE'S TOO TALL!! TALL GUYS ALWAYS OVERTHOW OMG GUYS I TOALLY KNOW ALL THERE IS TO FOOTBALL!!!"


Never change egriz, never change... Lol

Wait until Pflug takes over.

 

[billgrizfan]

57.3% and 4 INT's is not going to cut it. You can argue all you want to but we either have to give him throws he is capable of making or look elsewhere. I don't know what the answer is because I don't really know what our alternatives are but this just isn't going to get it done.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

What is "consistantly?" It's not a word, so it must be something else.

You are such a meathead. what are you, our resident English proctor? GFY. Stick to useless posts, cause you have no game in the football arena.

CDA = "Certified Dumb Ass"

I'm not the idiot inventing words, Stevie! You are so fucking useless, ha!

 

[Ursus1]

Rewatched....he wasn't overthrowing in first quarter and was very accurate but after that a ton!

 

[AZGrizFan]

The credo for any physician graduating from medical school is "first, do no harm". The same should be said for a QB. If 60% of his passes are on target, but he throws enough errant passes each game to allow interceptions, then he is not the answer. Don't throw the pass unless you KNOW the receiver is open, and on the same route you expect him to be. It will be very difficult to win if we keep turning the ball over at our current rate. Duh, huh?

Kind of difficult to do when half the passes are thrown before the receiver even makes his cut to GET open...

 

[AZGrizFan]

57.3% and 4 INT's is not going to cut it. You can argue all you want to but we either have to give him throws he is capable of making or look elsewhere. I don't know what the answer is because I don't really know what our alternatives are but this just isn't going to get it done.

I agree on the four INTs, but count the drops and his completion percentage goes way up...WAY up.

 

[Grizzoola]

Atl Griz 1 does have a point: consist[e]ly. Another question: Is BG consistent, not in over throwing, but in being up consistently for games? In the Bison game, he was up. In the CP game, he was down. Hopefully, he will level out, come Liberty. Consistency means performance, game to game.

 

[Spanky]

Gus had some problems, however, he wasn't the only one. Our defense was outstanding, offense wasn't, neither was special teams. Cal-Poly came to town well prepared and beat us. We were lacking in many areas, so let's improve for the next game. Thats sort of the way it is when you compete....one winner, one loser.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Grady, just aim for the numbers. If you're too high, he'll be able to reach it. If too low, he'll either catch it, or it'll be a dead ball. (Why am I not the Griz QB coach? Haha.)

It depends on the coverage scheme as to the type of pass to throw. A bullet pass on the numbers is not a common pass given up in the Tampa 2 type schemes for the open areas the QB has available. Brady throws a nice ball on short and deep routes, but is inconsistent on the mid range throws when the pass has to be over zone LB's, and in front of Deep Zone DB's. He executed those passes well against NDSU. He struggled with that against Poly.

This is a very difficult pass to make consistently for young qb's. That is one of the main reasons why Tampa 2 like defense, Cover 2, Cover 3, and Cover 4 schemes are so common in today's football. Teams that have a QB and WR's who can consistently beat those schemes, have successful offenses. I feel Brady has the talent and smarts to find consistency in this. He definitely has the WR's to make the transition easier. I honestly feel good about Gustafson's future.

Think about this, we have a qb who threw for around 350 yards, and he "struggled". In my opinion, that is nice problem to have. The offense put up over 450 yards, and in this offense that is struggling. Hell, had the GRIZ converted those yards into points, we would not be as concerned about Gus throwing high.

In game 1 we found very little to bitch about, other than a controversial decision to kick a FG, instead of going for it. Game 2, we are debating a qb's propensity to over throw. We fans have it pretty damn good in this team when we are limited in what we can complain about, be dissatisfied with, and dispute.

I hope when the GRIZ put together complete games, players pick up their games, etc we are equally giving them credit. Speaking of credit, How about 20 tackles in 1 game by Van Ackeren (sp?)? :thumb:

 

[jodcon]

I think one thing that will improve quite a bit as he goes is his touch on short passes, he throws quite a few darts to guys 10 yards away...that will come.

 

[uofmman1122]

57.3% and 4 INT's is not going to cut it. You can argue all you want to but we either have to give him throws he is capable of making or look elsewhere. I don't know what the answer is because I don't really know what our alternatives are but this just isn't going to get it done.

I agree on the four INTs, but count the drops and his completion percentage goes way up...WAY up.

Not to mention we likely win the game, otherwise.

 

[SaskGriz]

It's pretty obvious to anybody who watched the two games that the smoke was the issue. Against NDSU the particles in the air made the air heavier which pushed the ball down and kept Brady's throws low. Against Cal Poly, less smoke = lighter air, ball stays up. And remember it was smoky for most of the fall camp so it's tough to adjust.

On a serious note, wasn't that Brady's second ever game? Last week he was great, this week he was not, but I think a case could be made that he might need more time and experience.

I appreciate that he should have gotten more reps earlier in his career and I understand from egriz that this is Delaney's fault or Hauck's or Engstrom's or Larry Donovans.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

The credo for any physician graduating from medical school is "first, do no harm". The same should be said for a QB. If 60% of his passes are on target, but he throws enough errant passes each game to allow interceptions, then he is not the answer. Don't throw the pass unless you KNOW the receiver is open, and on the same route you expect him to be. It will be very difficult to win if we keep turning the ball over at our current rate. Duh, huh?

Kind of difficult to do when half the passes are thrown before the receiver even makes his cut to GET open...

What? All college passing offenses require the QB to throw the ball prior to the cut. What is your point, that Gus can't do it accurately?