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Griz WR's on 2016 roster

If 6 redshirt we are still left 3+ deep at wide receiver. You still have 20 players on assumed scholarship. When you add in 5 roster QB's you have roughly 43% of the available schollies going toward two positions. Schools like Baylor and Oregon can afford 17 or 18 WR's because they have 20 more scholarships to offer, (even more with the sanctions).

To me this just doesn't add up. Somewhere roster spots on this team are going to suffer in terms of depth. I just hope its not a truly critical position. Where this may be most telling will be playoff time. Not trying to be a naysayer. I just don't like the math.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
If 6 redshirt we are still left 3+ deep at wide receiver. You still have 20 players on assumed scholarship. When you add in 5 roster QB's you have roughly 43% of the available schollies going toward two positions. Schools like Baylor and Oregon can afford 17 or 18 WR's because they have 20 more scholarships to offer, (even more with the sanctions).

To me this just doesn't add up. Somewhere roster spots on this team are going to suffer in terms of depth. I just hope its not a truly critical position. Where this may be most telling will be playoff time. Not trying to be a naysayer. I just don't like the math.

Great question, and the math does seem odd. However, I believe that the staff has found financial assistance for many off the new players that doesn't count against the team scholarship limit such that the football scholarships are still relatively well distributed throughout the roster and positions. That's what I've heard anyhow. I guess we'll see how it all shakes out.
 
Yukon said:
Just a sampling of other schools. Remember, Montana has no TE's.

Baylor WR/TE's = 17
Oregon WR/TE's = 19
Cal WR/TE's = 20

Remember that those schools have 85 scholarships, and UM is still down 4 schollies. Remember that those schools have larger roster limits too.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
If 6 redshirt we are still left 3+ deep at wide receiver. You still have 20 players on assumed scholarship. When you add in 5 roster QB's you have roughly 43% of the available schollies going toward two positions. Schools like Baylor and Oregon can afford 17 or 18 WR's because they have 20 more scholarships to offer, (even more with the sanctions).

To me this just doesn't add up. Somewhere roster spots on this team are going to suffer in terms of depth. I just hope its not a truly critical position. Where this may be most telling will be playoff time. Not trying to be a naysayer. I just don't like the math.

Pretty big assumption that all have scholarships, QB and WR alike. There is a misconception that everyone that signs is a "full ride scholarship". Only because of societies need for information do you hear about all these kids signing. Back in the day the kids would sign, may or may not get athletic aid, may or may not get scholarship aid, may or may not make game day roster, and you may or may not ever even know they were a Griz. Flying under the radar with tweets, facebook and "breaking news" is no longer possible.
 
grizd said:
Gaeilge1 said:
If 6 redshirt we are still left 3+ deep at wide receiver. You still have 20 players on assumed scholarship. When you add in 5 roster QB's you have roughly 43% of the available schollies going toward two positions. Schools like Baylor and Oregon can afford 17 or 18 WR's because they have 20 more scholarships to offer, (even more with the sanctions).

To me this just doesn't add up. Somewhere roster spots on this team are going to suffer in terms of depth. I just hope its not a truly critical position. Where this may be most telling will be playoff time. Not trying to be a naysayer. I just don't like the math.

Pretty big assumption that all have scholarships, QB and WR alike. There is a misconception that everyone that signs is a "full ride scholarship". Only because of societies need for information do you hear about all these kids signing. Back in the day the kids would sign, may or may not get athletic aid, may or may not get scholarship aid, may or may not make game day roster, and you may or may not ever even know they were a Griz. Flying under the radar with tweets, facebook and "breaking news" is no longer possible.

Spot on! Supposedly Stitt and Company have gotten very organized with the $$ amounts they are giving. Lots of kids are only on partials and he is also blending a lot with academic aid. He has come right out an said he is amazed at some of the kids they've landed and are only helping with covering their books. I think a lot of these kids are incentivized to come out, work hard, and earn more $$ when we get our full schollies back. Hats off to what the staff has been able to spread out.
 
HookedonGriz said:
grizd said:
Gaeilge1 said:
If 6 redshirt we are still left 3+ deep at wide receiver. You still have 20 players on assumed scholarship. When you add in 5 roster QB's you have roughly 43% of the available schollies going toward two positions. Schools like Baylor and Oregon can afford 17 or 18 WR's because they have 20 more scholarships to offer, (even more with the sanctions).

To me this just doesn't add up. Somewhere roster spots on this team are going to suffer in terms of depth. I just hope its not a truly critical position. Where this may be most telling will be playoff time. Not trying to be a naysayer. I just don't like the math.

Pretty big assumption that all have scholarships, QB and WR alike. There is a misconception that everyone that signs is a "full ride scholarship". Only because of societies need for information do you hear about all these kids signing. Back in the day the kids would sign, may or may not get athletic aid, may or may not get scholarship aid, may or may not make game day roster, and you may or may not ever even know they were a Griz. Flying under the radar with tweets, facebook and "breaking news" is no longer possible.

Spot on! Supposedly Stitt and Company have gotten very organized with the $$ amounts they are giving. Lots of kids are only on partials and he is also blending a lot with academic aid. He has come right out an said he is amazed at some of the kids they've landed and are only helping with covering their books. I think a lot of these kids are incentivized to come out, work hard, and earn more $$ when we get our full schollies back. Hats off to what the staff has been able to spread out.

Know for a FACT at least two of the 5 QB's are not on scholly. And I don't know for sure, but almost guaranteed this new WR was eligible for academic aid given his GPA.
 
AZGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
grizd said:
Gaeilge1 said:
If 6 redshirt we are still left 3+ deep at wide receiver. You still have 20 players on assumed scholarship. When you add in 5 roster QB's you have roughly 43% of the available schollies going toward two positions. Schools like Baylor and Oregon can afford 17 or 18 WR's because they have 20 more scholarships to offer, (even more with the sanctions).

To me this just doesn't add up. Somewhere roster spots on this team are going to suffer in terms of depth. I just hope its not a truly critical position. Where this may be most telling will be playoff time. Not trying to be a naysayer. I just don't like the math.

Pretty big assumption that all have scholarships, QB and WR alike. There is a misconception that everyone that signs is a "full ride scholarship". Only because of societies need for information do you hear about all these kids signing. Back in the day the kids would sign, may or may not get athletic aid, may or may not get scholarship aid, may or may not make game day roster, and you may or may not ever even know they were a Griz. Flying under the radar with tweets, facebook and "breaking news" is no longer possible.

Spot on! Supposedly Stitt and Company have gotten very organized with the $$ amounts they are giving. Lots of kids are only on partials and he is also blending a lot with academic aid. He has come right out an said he is amazed at some of the kids they've landed and are only helping with covering their books. I think a lot of these kids are incentivized to come out, work hard, and earn more $$ when we get our full schollies back. Hats off to what the staff has been able to spread out.

Know for a FACT at least two of the 5 QB's are not on scholly. And I don't know for sure, but almost guaranteed this new WR was eligible for academic aid given his GPA.

Bingo! In fact I saw a story on him where he earned a Federal scholarship for I believe any college of his choice if he were to go into the Mecical Field. The kids scored in like the top 2% on his SATs
 
OK! Let's assume that Bob Stitt is, along with being an offensive wizard, also a master at creative finance and the theory of spreading the wealth. I never said that all of these guy's were on full ride, although I can see where that might be implied. I was using the scholarship analysis as a point of reference to what is to me the larger issue. That is the number of roster spots being filled by those two positions! Let's be real generous and assume a roster of 100 players including redshirts. You are still looking at 25% of the total roster which in my mind is significantly out of balance. Looked at another way is to figure that there is a need for a minimum of 4 receivers per play. With this roster you are 5 deep with 20, and 5 deep at qb. That still seems like a luxury that is tough to justify.
 
OK...

There will "only" be 14 receivers playing this fall, 6 of the 20 will be red shirted. May be one does not red shirt but that still means 15 receivers.

I say roll them over the boards like hockey and have 3 lines of 5!!!! :shock:
 
Gaeilge1 said:
OK! Let's assume that Bob Stitt is, along with being an offensive wizard, also a master at creative finance and the theory of spreading the wealth. I never said that all of these guy's were on full ride, although I can see where that might be implied. I was using the scholarship analysis as a point of reference to what is to me the larger issue. That is the number of roster spots being filled by those two positions! Let's be real generous and assume a roster of 100 players including redshirts. You are still looking at 25% of the total roster which in my mind is significantly out of balance. Looked at another way is to figure that there is a need for a minimum of 4 receivers per play. With this roster you are 5 deep with 20, and 5 deep at qb. That still seems like a luxury that is tough to justify.

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Paytonlives said:
OK...

There will "only" be 14 receivers playing this fall, 6 of the 20 will be red shirted. May be one does not red shirt but that still means 15 receivers.

I say roll them over the boards like hockey and have 3 lines of 5!!!! :shock:


:lol: :thumb:
 
brewskis said:
We are clearly addressing the need for a corners....with 1 transfer so far and 2 freshmen coming in. Kicker might work out....all the guys are new so give it a spring at least. So you are arguing over 3 maybe 4 scholarships, and you don't even know the scholarship situation for all the WRs.

Stitt muscled Ty out of Missoula, upgraded the DL after losing a lot to graduation, and had a huge success with defensive players in last seasons recruiting class. It appears Stitt understands the importance of having a quality defense. He also likes a lot of talented wide receivers. He's doing a good job assembling talented players and managing his staff.


Blah blah blah. I don't value futures. I want to see results on the field, and will the paper hype to guys who get off on such stuff.
 
grizindabox said:
Gaeilge1 said:
OK! Let's assume that Bob Stitt is, along with being an offensive wizard, also a master at creative finance and the theory of spreading the wealth. I never said that all of these guy's were on full ride, although I can see where that might be implied. I was using the scholarship analysis as a point of reference to what is to me the larger issue. That is the number of roster spots being filled by those two positions! Let's be real generous and assume a roster of 100 players including redshirts. You are still looking at 25% of the total roster which in my mind is significantly out of balance. Looked at another way is to figure that there is a need for a minimum of 4 receivers per play. With this roster you are 5 deep with 20, and 5 deep at qb. That still seems like a luxury that is tough to justify.


Don't use too much logic, it causes panic attacks for some on here. Stitt knows best. Stitt knows best. Yeah, we got it! Did Delaney know best? Did Ash know best? Did Gregorak know best? Some of you grant Stitt God-like status, which is a real hoot, since he has shown little on the playing field so far to warrant such. To me, the book on Stitt is very much open.

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Atlanta Griz1 said:
grizindabox said:
Gaeilge1 said:
OK! Let's assume that Bob Stitt is, along with being an offensive wizard, also a master at creative finance and the theory of spreading the wealth. I never said that all of these guy's were on full ride, although I can see where that might be implied. I was using the scholarship analysis as a point of reference to what is to me the larger issue. That is the number of roster spots being filled by those two positions! Let's be real generous and assume a roster of 100 players including redshirts. You are still looking at 25% of the total roster which in my mind is significantly out of balance. Looked at another way is to figure that there is a need for a minimum of 4 receivers per play. With this roster you are 5 deep with 20, and 5 deep at qb. That still seems like a luxury that is tough to justify.


Don't use too much logic, it causes panic attacks for some on here. Stitt knows best. Stitt knows best. Yeah, we got it! Did Delaney know best? Did Ash know best? Did Gregorak know best? Some of you grant Stitt God-like status, which is a real hoot, since he has shown little on the playing field so far to warrant such. To me, the book on Stitt is very much open.

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you should really learn to use the quote function......
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
brewskis said:
We are clearly addressing the need for a corners....with 1 transfer so far and 2 freshmen coming in. Kicker might work out....all the guys are new so give it a spring at least. So you are arguing over 3 maybe 4 scholarships, and you don't even know the scholarship situation for all the WRs.

Stitt muscled Ty out of Missoula, upgraded the DL after losing a lot to graduation, and had a huge success with defensive players in last seasons recruiting class. It appears Stitt understands the importance of having a quality defense. He also likes a lot of talented wide receivers. He's doing a good job assembling talented players and managing his staff.


Blah blah blah. I don't value futures. I want to see results on the field, and will the paper hype to guys who get off on such stuff.
So you don't value upgrading the talent at each position group and managing the depth chart properly?
 
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