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Evizzerate said:
actually Becker they are good posters. Our conference is weak. We had a few bad losses early.
oh i know this all too well about the conf, and the bad losses.....but it just seems there is always an little comment hidden in there that is unnecessary and makes them seem like they have some superiority complex.
 
If Montana shoots the ball relatively well, they win this game. I've seen Wisconsin on a handful of occaisions and of course I've seen Montana nearly every week. By the midpoint in the season, I believe Montana was the better team, and franly has better players. I know that will get scoffed at by fans of a team in a "power" conference who has never watched a game not involving a team from the Big Ten or ACC, ("Yeah, right! Like a mid-major could out-recruit a big-ten team!!), but I just have two words in response to that:

Mr. Selvig.

Iowa recruited a high school kid out of Montana named D. Selvig. Didn't get him, though; ended up at another school. Anyone recall whow that was....

Montana wins if they shoot it slightly better than average.
 
If you go by seedings, Wisconsin's obviously supposed to win. They're a really good team, but have a lot more pressure on them to win. They win and they're supposed to. They lose and it's "Whoa, what's up with the Big Ten?" I know it's cliche, but the Griz have nothing to lose; and the Badger's have everything to lose!
That's usually what said by under dogs. But the difference with this Griz team from many in the past is:
They've learned how to win-anywhere. They're not overwhelmed by the situation. Coach Tinkle has such an understanding of the psyche of this team. If(I mean when) they beat the Badgers, we might be seeing a new coach in Missoula next year.
 
becker2117 said:
So pretty much our only hope is if you guys dont make any shots? Well thanks so much for not thinking we are "chopped Liver"!!!! that about made my day! Hey guys, a fan of a BIG 10 team said this game is worth watching, so maybe we should all tune in afterall! 4 vs 13 seeds are always worth watching, do u only watch the UW games or do u watch them all?

Sounded worse than intended, but Wisconsin has run really hot and really cold this season. We can beat anyone and lose to any team good enough to get into the tournament (and Iowa). This is truly an odd Bo Ryan team.

Yes, this game is worth watching for casual basketball fans.

Outside of my team's games, I'd guess I usually watch two to three hours a day the first weekend. I try to watch all of the final and regional finals, but life intrudes and I often miss games.
 
EverettGriz said:
If Montana shoots the ball relatively well, they win this game. I've seen Wisconsin on a handful of occaisions and of course I've seen Montana nearly every week. By the midpoint in the season, I believe Montana was the better team, and franly has better players. I know that will get scoffed at by fans of a team in a "power" conference who has never watched a game not involving a team from the Big Ten or ACC, ("Yeah, right! Like a mid-major could out-recruit a big-ten team!!), but I just have two words in response to that:

Mr. Selvig.

Iowa recruited a high school kid out of Montana named D. Selvig. Didn't get him, though; ended up at another school. Anyone recall whow that was....

Montana wins if they shoot it slightly better than average.
Everything i have read out of UW people is that for us to even have a shot, UW has to play the one of their worst games of they year, and then, we MIGHT be able to pull it off........this is not football where we have no SHOT against them...and u right everett, and this might come as a shock to some poeple out of the BSC...montana can shoot and defend...and if we can do that, we can beat a team that does the same, and if UW plays one of their worst games of the year, they wont just lose, they could lose big....that goes for both teams in this game.
 
becker2117 said:
EverettGriz said:
If Montana shoots the ball relatively well, they win this game. I've seen Wisconsin on a handful of occaisions and of course I've seen Montana nearly every week. By the midpoint in the season, I believe Montana was the better team, and franly has better players. I know that will get scoffed at by fans of a team in a "power" conference who has never watched a game not involving a team from the Big Ten or ACC, ("Yeah, right! Like a mid-major could out-recruit a big-ten team!!), but I just have two words in response to that:

Mr. Selvig.

Iowa recruited a high school kid out of Montana named D. Selvig. Didn't get him, though; ended up at another school. Anyone recall whow that was....

Montana wins if they shoot it slightly better than average.
Everything i have read out of UW people is that for us to even have a shot, UW has to play the one of their worst games of they year, and then, we MIGHT be able to pull it off........this is not football where we have no SHOT against them...and u right everett, and this might come as a shock to some poeple out of the BSC...montana can shoot and defend...and if we can do that, we can beat a team that does the same, and if UW plays one of their worst games of the year, they wont just lose, they could lose big....that goes for both teams in this game.


2010 at Pauley Pavillion: Griz 54 UCLA 44

Anything can happen!
 
Rockygriz said:
becker2117 said:
EverettGriz said:
If Montana shoots the ball relatively well, they win this game. I've seen Wisconsin on a handful of occaisions and of course I've seen Montana nearly every week. By the midpoint in the season, I believe Montana was the better team, and franly has better players. I know that will get scoffed at by fans of a team in a "power" conference who has never watched a game not involving a team from the Big Ten or ACC, ("Yeah, right! Like a mid-major could out-recruit a big-ten team!!), but I just have two words in response to that:

Mr. Selvig.

Iowa recruited a high school kid out of Montana named D. Selvig. Didn't get him, though; ended up at another school. Anyone recall whow that was....

Montana wins if they shoot it slightly better than average.
Everything i have read out of UW people is that for us to even have a shot, UW has to play the one of their worst games of they year, and then, we MIGHT be able to pull it off........this is not football where we have no SHOT against them...and u right everett, and this might come as a shock to some poeple out of the BSC...montana can shoot and defend...and if we can do that, we can beat a team that does the same, and if UW plays one of their worst games of the year, they wont just lose, they could lose big....that goes for both teams in this game.


2010 at Pauley Pavillion: Griz 54 UCLA 44

Anything can happen!
and this team is better, if not much better than that team...i hope we schedule a tough nonconference season next year...because next year, we are not going to be finding our idenity early on, we are going to pick up RIGHT where we left off.....cant wait till thursday, wish i could say lets shock the world, but from what i have listened to and read the only people who would be shocked are from wisconsin
 
becker2117 said:
Rockygriz said:
becker2117 said:
EverettGriz said:
If Montana shoots the ball relatively well, they win this game. I've seen Wisconsin on a handful of occaisions and of course I've seen Montana nearly every week. By the midpoint in the season, I believe Montana was the better team, and franly has better players. I know that will get scoffed at by fans of a team in a "power" conference who has never watched a game not involving a team from the Big Ten or ACC, ("Yeah, right! Like a mid-major could out-recruit a big-ten team!!), but I just have two words in response to that:

Mr. Selvig.

Iowa recruited a high school kid out of Montana named D. Selvig. Didn't get him, though; ended up at another school. Anyone recall whow that was....

Montana wins if they shoot it slightly better than average.
Everything i have read out of UW people is that for us to even have a shot, UW has to play the one of their worst games of they year, and then, we MIGHT be able to pull it off........this is not football where we have no SHOT against them...and u right everett, and this might come as a shock to some poeple out of the BSC...montana can shoot and defend...and if we can do that, we can beat a team that does the same, and if UW plays one of their worst games of the year, they wont just lose, they could lose big....that goes for both teams in this game.


2010 at Pauley Pavillion: Griz 54 UCLA 44

Anything can happen!
and this team is better, if not much better than that team...i hope we schedule a tough nonconference season next year...because next year, we are not going to be finding our idenity early on, we are going to pick up RIGHT where we left off.....cant wait till thursday, wish i could say lets shock the world, but from what i have listened to and read the only people who would be shocked are from wisconsin

don't agree on this year's team v. last year. i was in pauley that night. final was 66-57 but montana was up by 18 with about two minutes left. you just couldn't believe what you were seeing. at the two most important positions on the court--center and point guard--montana was superior, thanks to qvale and cherry. but wisconsin will be dominant in the post and have a better point guard than did ucla.
 
The X-factor in all of these NCAA tournament games is the neutral court. Too many big-time BB programs play the vast majority of their tough non-conference games at home, causing their record to bloat. On a neutral court, that advantage disappears, which is why there are so many "upsets" come tournament time.
 
Growler1 said:
The X-factor in all of these NCAA tournament games is the neutral court. Too many big-time BB programs play the vast majority of their tough non-conference games at home, causing their record to bloat. On a neutral court, that advantage disappears, which is why there are so many "upsets" come tournament time.


By the sounds of it, the selection committee is encouraging more tough road games, to balance out schedules better. It will weigh much heavier starting next season, and did weigh heavier this season than last. It sounds like they also want more done to bring bigger schools to smaller schools too.

I hope they stick to that thinking. :thumb:
 
citay said:
becker2117 said:
Rockygriz said:
becker2117 said:
Everything i have read out of UW people is that for us to even have a shot, UW has to play the one of their worst games of they year, and then, we MIGHT be able to pull it off........this is not football where we have no SHOT against them...and u right everett, and this might come as a shock to some poeple out of the BSC...montana can shoot and defend...and if we can do that, we can beat a team that does the same, and if UW plays one of their worst games of the year, they wont just lose, they could lose big....that goes for both teams in this game.


2010 at Pauley Pavillion: Griz 54 UCLA 44

Anything can happen!
and this team is better, if not much better than that team...i hope we schedule a tough nonconference season next year...because next year, we are not going to be finding our idenity early on, we are going to pick up RIGHT where we left off.....cant wait till thursday, wish i could say lets shock the world, but from what i have listened to and read the only people who would be shocked are from wisconsin

don't agree on this year's team v. last year. i was in pauley that night. final was 66-57 but montana was up by 18 with about two minutes left. you just couldn't believe what you were seeing. at the two most important positions on the court--center and point guard--montana was superior, thanks to qvale and cherry. but wisconsin will be dominant in the post and have a better point guard than did ucla.

I stand corrected. I still disagree with you and you're missing my point. You were there, so I would think you understand what I'm talking about. You're totally making my point-on any given night! Montana should have lost that game, if you looked at the schedule at the beginning of the season. Last year it was VCU making it to the Final Four. I'm not saying the Griz will do that, or even win their first game, but you seem to have less faith in this team than most.
 
Rockygriz said:
citay said:
becker2117 said:
Rockygriz said:
2010 at Pauley Pavillion: Griz 54 UCLA 44

Anything can happen!
and this team is better, if not much better than that team...i hope we schedule a tough nonconference season next year...because next year, we are not going to be finding our idenity early on, we are going to pick up RIGHT where we left off.....cant wait till thursday, wish i could say lets shock the world, but from what i have listened to and read the only people who would be shocked are from wisconsin

don't agree on this year's team v. last year. i was in pauley that night. final was 66-57 but montana was up by 18 with about two minutes left. you just couldn't believe what you were seeing. at the two most important positions on the court--center and point guard--montana was superior, thanks to qvale and cherry. but wisconsin will be dominant in the post and have a better point guard than did ucla.

I stand corrected. I still disagree with you and you're missing my point. You were there, so I would think you understand what I'm talking about. You're totally making my point-on any given night! Montana should have lost that game, if you looked at the schedule at the beginning of the season. Last year it was VCU making it to the Final Four. I'm not saying the Griz will do that, or even win their first game, but you seem to have less faith in this team than most.

i'm not a faith-based fan. the only thing i believe in is great gurad play, which we have, and great post play, which we don't, at least not to last year's level. this is especially essential come tournament time. that's my holy grail.

did you see the iona game tonight? they ran byu ragged the first 16 minutes; one commentator even compared them to the miami heat! iona was up 25. but byu was bigger, tougher, better inside. they wisely slowed it down and turned it into a slugfest. the next 24 minutes, poor iona was pooped, dazed, outmanned. neither faith nor an ex-griz, nyandigsi moikobu ("digs"), could stop the assault.
 
citay said:
Rockygriz said:
citay said:
becker2117 said:
and this team is better, if not much better than that team...i hope we schedule a tough nonconference season next year...because next year, we are not going to be finding our idenity early on, we are going to pick up RIGHT where we left off.....cant wait till thursday, wish i could say lets shock the world, but from what i have listened to and read the only people who would be shocked are from wisconsin

don't agree on this year's team v. last year. i was in pauley that night. final was 66-57 but montana was up by 18 with about two minutes left. you just couldn't believe what you were seeing. at the two most important positions on the court--center and point guard--montana was superior, thanks to qvale and cherry. but wisconsin will be dominant in the post and have a better point guard than did ucla.

I stand corrected. I still disagree with you and you're missing my point. You were there, so I would think you understand what I'm talking about. You're totally making my point-on any given night! Montana should have lost that game, if you looked at the schedule at the beginning of the season. Last year it was VCU making it to the Final Four. I'm not saying the Griz will do that, or even win their first game, but you seem to have less faith in this team than most.

i'm not a faith-based fan. the only thing i believe in is great gurad play, which we have, and great post play, which we don't, at least not to last year's level. this is especially essential come tournament time. that's my holy grail.

did you see the iona game tonight? they ran byu ragged the first 16 minutes; one commentator even compared them to the miami heat! iona was up 25. but byu was bigger, tougher, better inside. they wisely slowed it down and turned it into a slugfest. the next 24 minutes, poor iona was pooped, dazed, outmanned. neither faith nor an ex-griz, nyandigsi moikobu ("digs"), could stop the assault.
so is that what u think would happen to us if we went off in the first half? cuz it looked like iona didnt play a lick of D, be it inside or outside...and when it started going bad, played with little to no heart
 
citay said:
Rockygriz said:
citay said:
becker2117 said:
and this team is better, if not much better than that team...i hope we schedule a tough nonconference season next year...because next year, we are not going to be finding our idenity early on, we are going to pick up RIGHT where we left off.....cant wait till thursday, wish i could say lets shock the world, but from what i have listened to and read the only people who would be shocked are from wisconsin

don't agree on this year's team v. last year. i was in pauley that night. final was 66-57 but montana was up by 18 with about two minutes left. you just couldn't believe what you were seeing. at the two most important positions on the court--center and point guard--montana was superior, thanks to qvale and cherry. but wisconsin will be dominant in the post and have a better point guard than did ucla.

I stand corrected. I still disagree with you and you're missing my point. You were there, so I would think you understand what I'm talking about. You're totally making my point-on any given night! Montana should have lost that game, if you looked at the schedule at the beginning of the season. Last year it was VCU making it to the Final Four. I'm not saying the Griz will do that, or even win their first game, but you seem to have less faith in this team than most.

i'm not a faith-based fan. the only thing i believe in is great gurad play, which we have, and great post play, which we don't, at least not to last year's level. this is especially essential come tournament time. that's my holy grail.

did you see the iona game tonight? they ran byu ragged the first 16 minutes; one commentator even compared them to the miami heat! iona was up 25. but byu was bigger, tougher, better inside. they wisely slowed it down and turned it into a slugfest. the next 24 minutes, poor iona was pooped, dazed, outmanned. neither faith nor an ex-griz, nyandigsi moikobu ("digs"), could stop the assault.

I agree! There's a reason the Badgers are a 13 seed, the Griz are a 4; the Badgers are favored by 8.5; the Badgers are ranked 14th and the Griz-who knows what! This team may win or lose, but this team will play 40 strong minutes! I'm obviously a Griz fan, but I won't be shocked with the upset.
 
Rockygriz said:
citay said:
Rockygriz said:
citay said:
don't agree on this year's team v. last year. i was in pauley that night. final was 66-57 but montana was up by 18 with about two minutes left. you just couldn't believe what you were seeing. at the two most important positions on the court--center and point guard--montana was superior, thanks to qvale and cherry. but wisconsin will be dominant in the post and have a better point guard than did ucla.

I stand corrected. I still disagree with you and you're missing my point. You were there, so I would think you understand what I'm talking about. You're totally making my point-on any given night! Montana should have lost that game, if you looked at the schedule at the beginning of the season. Last year it was VCU making it to the Final Four. I'm not saying the Griz will do that, or even win their first game, but you seem to have less faith in this team than most.

i'm not a faith-based fan. the only thing i believe in is great gurad play, which we have, and great post play, which we don't, at least not to last year's level. this is especially essential come tournament time. that's my holy grail.

did you see the iona game tonight? they ran byu ragged the first 16 minutes; one commentator even compared them to the miami heat! iona was up 25. but byu was bigger, tougher, better inside. they wisely slowed it down and turned it into a slugfest. the next 24 minutes, poor iona was pooped, dazed, outmanned. neither faith nor an ex-griz, nyandigsi moikobu ("digs"), could stop the assault.

I agree! There's a reason the Badgers are a 13 seed, the Griz are a 4; the Badgers are favored by 8.5; the Badgers are ranked 14th and the Griz-who knows what! This team may win or lose, but this team will play 40 strong minutes! I'm obviously a Griz fan, but I won't be shocked with the upset.
wait buddy haha, i love the griz as much if not more than anybody in this amazing state!!! but im not going to jump us up 9 seeds just yet :) :thumb: lol, know it was a typo just thought i would let ya know
 
becker2117 said:
Rockygriz said:
citay said:
Rockygriz said:
I stand corrected. I still disagree with you and you're missing my point. You were there, so I would think you understand what I'm talking about. You're totally making my point-on any given night! Montana should have lost that game, if you looked at the schedule at the beginning of the season. Last year it was VCU making it to the Final Four. I'm not saying the Griz will do that, or even win their first game, but you seem to have less faith in this team than most.

i'm not a faith-based fan. the only thing i believe in is great gurad play, which we have, and great post play, which we don't, at least not to last year's level. this is especially essential come tournament time. that's my holy grail.

did you see the iona game tonight? they ran byu ragged the first 16 minutes; one commentator even compared them to the miami heat! iona was up 25. but byu was bigger, tougher, better inside. they wisely slowed it down and turned it into a slugfest. the next 24 minutes, poor iona was pooped, dazed, outmanned. neither faith nor an ex-griz, nyandigsi moikobu ("digs"), could stop the assault.

I agree! There's a reason the Badgers are a 13 seed, the Griz are a 4; the Badgers are favored by 8.5; the Badgers are ranked 14th and the Griz-who knows what! This team may win or lose, but this team will play 40 strong minutes! I'm obviously a Griz fan, but I won't be shocked with the upset.
wait buddy haha, i love the griz as much if not more than anybody in this amazing state!!! but im not going to jump us up 9 seeds just yet :) :thumb: lol, know it was a typo just thought i would let ya know

Typo...yeah! We're gonna move your desk to the basement. And we're gonna take your stapler away. I blame the Double Haul IPA for this one.
 
Iowa swept the Badgers with fewer athletes than the Griz have. Iowa had a RPI of 136 the last time they beat the Badgers. Montana's RPI is 75. The Badger's attribute the loss to one player shooting the lights out. One could also say Iowa was able to recognize the hot hand, fed him and the Wisconsin coaching staff was too rigid to adjust their D to stop the kid. In many respects this should be an easy game for the staff to gameplan. They are what they are and they aren't going to change.
 
Posted this in the prediction thread...The only thing I'm predicting is that the final score of the two teams will be within 5 or so...Heart, says Griz, 65-60, head says, Wisc. 63, UM 58. Yeah, we don't have "established depth," but the young guys (Gregory, Henderson, DeShields) have all had their moments when they've given us unexpected offense. And, I think that is all we'll need for a win. However, my pick for our unexpected offense is a player that seemingly everyone has forgotten...Michael Weisner...:coffee:
 
Evizzerate said:
Iowa swept the Badgers with fewer athletes than the Griz have. Iowa had a RPI of 136 the last time they beat the Badgers. Montana's RPI is 75. The Badger's attribute the loss to one player shooting the lights out. One could also say Iowa was able to recognize the hot hand, fed him and the Wisconsin coaching staff was too rigid to adjust their D to stop the kid. In many respects this should be an easy game for the staff to gameplan. They are what they are and they aren't going to change.
...Sounds like the basketball version of "Bobby-Ball" ... :ugeek: 8-)
 
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