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Griz Vs Whitworth

Most of Walter's "pure" shots in the second half came from 2 or 3 feet. Blow right by everyone and pop out on the other side for a layup.
 
Simply put: officiating through the first two-thirds of the game did not do the game justice (I'm trying to be diplomatic... I have friends who are hoops officials). The one official who called a good game seemed hesitant to do anything about it. However, they finally backed off on calls in the blocks (too late to allow Martin Breunig to play aggressively) and the game settled in enough to allow for some process. Tired of officials who seem only capable of calling hand checks, traveling and inbounds violations and make guesses at everything else. Ugh.
 
I hope you also noted that Whitworth's best player only played 2 mins in the first half because he got 2 quick fouls.....just being "fair and balanced".....
 
Mousegriz said:
Most of Walter's "pure" shots in the second half came from 2 or 3 feet. Blow right by everyone and pop out on the other side for a layup.
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Scary part is, Dunn, Oguinne and Rorie are quick smooth ballhandling playmakers as well. Too bad we have to wait a year for Rorie. :thumb:

I am bummed. I had to work and could not make the game.
 
sacstateman said:
I hope you also noted that Whitworth's best player only played 2 mins in the first half because he got 2 quick fouls.....just being "fair and balanced".....
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Of course, sacstateman! I did NOT mention "homer" in any way. I instead refer to the inability of officials (usually young, perhaps inexperienced) to call violations in the blocks, regardless of which team is affected. The issues of charging, flopping, not recognizing a post player's right to establish a post pyramid, what constitutes legitimate boxing out on rebounds, continuation violations, and numerous other (admittedly) difficult calls to make concern me regarding current college officiating.

They're getting paid. Perhaps they need more certification (licensed schools?) than "proof" that they've called 5 years' worth of high school games before they call a D1 game.

In last year's Montana loss at Sac State (you can look this up) two of the three refs had not called a single Big Sky conference OR Division 1 game prior to the contest. While this certainly sounds like whining (moot point), it illustrates that the process for determining how officials get assigned to division 1 games is the issue.

My complaint with two refs at last night's game is that neither seemed to understand essential, rules defined, aspects of division 1 basketball. When that happens, and when puzzling calls ensue, it negatively affects the flow of the game. No "new rules" will be able to smooth the process of division 1 games when the officials on the floor don't understand how to call them.
 
grizzlyjournal said:
sacstateman said:
I hope you also noted that Whitworth's best player only played 2 mins in the first half because he got 2 quick fouls.....just being "fair and balanced".....
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Of course, sacstateman! I did NOT mention "homer" in any way. I instead refer to the inability of officials (usually young, perhaps inexperienced) to call violations in the blocks, regardless of which team is affected. The issues of charging, flopping, not recognizing a post player's right to establish a post pyramid, what constitutes legitimate boxing out on rebounds, continuation violations, and numerous other (admittedly) difficult calls to make concern me regarding current college officiating.

They're getting paid. Perhaps they need more certification (licensed schools?) than "proof" that they've called 5 years' worth of high school games before they call a D1 game.

In last year's Montana loss at Sac State (you can look this up) two of the three refs had not called a single Big Sky conference OR Division 1 game prior to the contest. While this certainly sounds like whining (moot point), it illustrates that the process for determining how officials get assigned to division 1 games is the issue.

My complaint with two refs at last night's game is that neither seemed to understand essential, rules defined, aspects of division 1 basketball. When that happens, and when puzzling calls ensue, it negatively affects the flow of the game. No "new rules" will be able to smooth the process of division 1 games when the officials on the floor don't understand how to call them.
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The only reason I mentioned it was because I have watched Kenny Love play in high school and followed a bit of his college career out of curiousity.....his uncle I believe is former Chicago Bull, Bob Love....when I saw he only played 2 mins in the first half I knew there had to be a reason and you helped me understand what was happening....just wanted to know if it was perceived as being one way officiating or not...now I know you didn't think it was one way...thanks...maybe Jimmy Casas should have been called in...LOL
 
sacstateman said:
I hope you also noted that Whitworth's best player only played 2 mins in the first half because he got 2 quick fouls.....just being "fair and balanced".....
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Their leading scorer from last year, who was also an honorable mention all-american like Love, (Christian Jurlina) played 34 minutes. He averaged 14.8 pts and 5.4 rebounds a game for them last year. Besides leading them in points and rebounds last year he also led them in 3 pointers made, fgs made, steals, and was 2nd on the team in assists. Love was their 2nd leading scorer with 11.9 per game. Valle (who scored 20 against the Griz) averaged 11.3

But yeah Love picked up 2 quick fouls just like Breunig early in the 1st half. Wasn't very impressed with that ref crew especially in the first half.
 
Officiating is my biggest issue with basketball. I think they should replace disqualification with additional free throws after five fouls. "Homers" are notorious in college basketball, less so in football. Last night, in an epic battle between the Clips and the Dubs, two of the top teams in the NBA, Steph Curry picked up two quick ticky-tack fouls and was forced to sit. This isn't fair to the teams or to the fans, and leaves it to the refs to decide a game. Sixth foul, automatic three shots; more, more foul shots. But you keep your star players on the court. Baseball has got to speed things up. Football has to come to grips with the concussion problem. But basketball has to fix the foul issue.
 
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