Griz vs suu

[AZGrizFan]

High expectations for a brand new and young team, with 2 players who started one or both games not playing today and 2 good guards expected to play this year no longer with the program? Not one full-time starter from last year starting today. Several more players expected to join the team this year.

The team has a long way to go. It's just the beginning. Don't know why any fan would be embarrassed. I'd like to win every game, but that's never realistic.

DeCuire has a history of getting his team going at some point during the season. I hope he does this year too.

Another great post. :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

My observation as a person that reffed at a high level for 25 years. The officiating today was actually pretty good but The last call was marginal at best. In my experience a foul at the end of the game that determines the winner has to be an obvious foul. I’m not sure that was the case with that one. We lost the game in the three to five possessions in the last couple of minutes when we either didn’t convert shots or turned it over. This team will follow the same pattern as all of Travis’s teams. Start slow and get better as the year goes on. I hope we see SUU in the tournament.

I agree. And much better officiating today. I didn't agree with every call, but have no gripe. In fact, I would compliment them generally.

 

[GrizWhiz]

Was Satterwhite at the game?

 

[citygriz]

High expectations for a brand new and young team, with 2 players who started one or both games not playing today and 2 good guards expected to play this year no longer with the program? Not one full-time starter from last year starting today. Several more players expected to join the team this year.

The team has a long way to go. It's just the beginning. Don't know why any fan would be embarrassed. I'd like to win every game, but that's never realistic.

DeCuire has a history of getting his team going at some point during the season. I hope he does this year too.

I too am encouraged.

SSU is a good team. Well coached, quick to the ball, nice post player, made shots down the stretch when we didn't. Two one-point losses to them on their home court may not turn out to have been a terrible thing.

I suspect as the season moves along that each game we'll see one player or two players step up as featured soloists. For me today that would be Kyle Owens, who's showing flashed of being a polished low-post player and strong rebounder; and Cameron Parker, who showed me talent I didn't see the first two games. He's super sneaky with the ball, and although his assist to turnover ratio was not great today--about three lazy passes that got picked off--I think he has skills.

Oh, and Josh Vazquez--clutch again. Both games it was his late shot that gave us a chance to win.

And, yes, three touted talents yet to join the team. Overall, I'm much more encouraged that I was after the first game.

 

[info]

High expectations for a brand new and young team, with 2 players who started one or both games not playing today and 2 good guards expected to play this year no longer with the program? Not one full-time starter from last year starting today. Several more players expected to join the team this year.

The team has a long way to go. It's just the beginning. Don't know why any fan would be embarrassed. I'd like to win every game, but that's never realistic.

DeCuire has a history of getting his team going at some point during the season. I hope he does this year too.

I too am encouraged.

SSU is a good team. Well coached, quick to the ball, nice post player, made shots down the stretch when we didn't. Two one-point losses to them on their home court may not turn out to have been a terrible thing.

I suspect as the season moves along that each game we'll see one player or two players step up as featured soloists. For me today that would be Kyle Owens, who's showing flashed of being a polished low-post player and strong rebounder; and Cameron Parker, who showed me talent I didn't see the first two games. He's super sneaky with the ball, and although his assist to turnover ratio was not great today--about three lazy passes that got picked off--I think he has skills.

Oh, and Josh Vazquez--clutch again. Both games it was his late shot that gave us a chance to win.

And, yes, three touted talents yet to join the team. Overall, I'm much more encouraged that I was after the first game.

The 6’9 kid from San Diego via UMASS will help along with the 6’4 kid from Cali. We were short handed today and still could’ve won.

 

[grizindabox]

I too am encouraged.

SSU is a good team. Well coached, quick to the ball, nice post player, made shots down the stretch when we didn't. Two one-point losses to them on their home court may not turn out to have been a terrible thing.

I suspect as the season moves along that each game we'll see one player or two players step up as featured soloists. For me today that would be Kyle Owens, who's showing flashed of being a polished low-post player and strong rebounder; and Cameron Parker, who showed me talent I didn't see the first two games. He's super sneaky with the ball, and although his assist to turnover ratio was not great today--about three lazy passes that got picked off--I think he has skills.

Oh, and Josh Vazquez--clutch again. Both games it was his late shot that gave us a chance to win.

And, yes, three touted talents yet to join the team. Overall, I'm much more encouraged that I was after the first game.

The 6’9 kid from San Diego via UMASS will help along with the 6’4 kid from Cali. We were short handed today and still could’ve won.

UMASS-Lowell

 

[grizzlyjournal]

Was Satterwhite at the game?

Yes. In black sweats, mingling with the team at timeouts. I think I also saw Caarter-Hollinger, but am not certain.

 

[grizzlyjournal]

My observation as a person that reffed at a high level for 25 years. The officiating today was actually pretty good but The last call was marginal at best. In my experience a foul at the end of the game that determines the winner has to be an obvious foul. I’m not sure that was the case with that one. We lost the game in the three to five possessions in the last couple of minutes when we either didn’t convert shots or turned it over. This team will follow the same pattern as all of Travis’s teams. Start slow and get better as the year goes on. I hope we see SUU in the tournament.

I agree. And much better officiating today. I didn't agree with every call, but have no gripe. In fact, I would compliment them generally.

Agree 100% with both comments. This was a well-reffed game. I quipped to myself at some point, that it seemed obvious the refs watched game-film from Thursday and made their own early-season adjustments. Letting the game even get to the final play(s)? As Wayne Tinkle so often has said, "That's life on the road, baby."

 

[DPGriz]

When you have an inconsistent, average offense and struggle defensively against the dribble drive, every game will be a roller coaster.

Inconsistent offense has become a staple of the DeCuire era. Like it or not. Something has to be fixed, like I said on Thursday.

74 points and 51% from the field. It's not the offense.

 

[UMFan12]

Inconsistent offense has become a staple of the DeCuire era. Like it or not. Something has to be fixed, like I said on Thursday.

74 points and 51% from the field. It's not the offense.

You clearly don’t watch the games. The droughts are what kill us. We had several of them in this game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Was Satterwhite at the game?

Yes. In black sweats, mingling with the team at timeouts. I think I also saw Caarter-Hollinger, but am not certain.

What happened to those two?

 

[Griz til I die]

Yes. In black sweats, mingling with the team at timeouts. I think I also saw Caarter-Hollinger, but am not certain.

What happened to those two?

Probably didn’t get test results back in time or had slight injuries that kept them out. I’m pissed that Henderson hasn’t played yet. Grades have been posted so he should be good to go. I’m pretty sure I even saw him suited up on the bench today. Idk maybe we’re trying to keep him a secret for Georgia and thought we could win the game without him or something.

 

[grizindabox]

What happened to those two?

Probably didn’t get test results back in time or had slight injuries that kept them out. I’m pissed that Henderson hasn’t played yet. Grades have been posted so he should be good to go. I’m pretty sure I even saw him suited up on the bench today. Idk maybe we’re trying to keep him a secret for Georgia and thought we could win the game without him or something.

You are the king of assumptions.

 

[Colter_Nuanez56]

What happened to those two?

Probably didn’t get test results back in time or had slight injuries that kept them out. I’m pissed that Henderson hasn’t played yet. Grades have been posted so he should be good to go. I’m pretty sure I even saw him suited up on the bench today. Idk maybe we’re trying to keep him a secret for Georgia and thought we could win the game without him or something.

They wouldn't be able to make the trip or be in the arena if it was a testing thing. So it's either injury or coach's decision. Both were in street clothes though, so it's not Covid.

Per this overall discussion, I picked Southern Utah second in my poll behind Eastern Washington and ahead of the Griz. I said that on Tootell and Nuanez and I got killed on our phone and text line... I voted based on regular-season prediction. The thing to remember with the neutral site tournament is that the draw may help you a bit, but in Boise, it's a whole different ball game.

And on a neutral court with a win-or-go home scenario, I'm taking Travis DeCuire every time.

 

[Griz til I die]

Probably didn’t get test results back in time or had slight injuries that kept them out. I’m pissed that Henderson hasn’t played yet. Grades have been posted so he should be good to go. I’m pretty sure I even saw him suited up on the bench today. Idk maybe we’re trying to keep him a secret for Georgia and thought we could win the game without him or something.

You are the king of assumptions.

Ok. You got a better idea why they didn’t play today then? I’d love to hear your reasoning.

 

[Colter_Nuanez56]

https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1335359515890356225

 

[grizindabox]

You are the king of assumptions.

Ok. You got a better idea why they didn’t play today then? I’d love to hear your reasoning.

Well, I know it had nothing to do with testing, but my point was, why go making assumptions about the reason.

 

[Griz til I die]

Probably didn’t get test results back in time or had slight injuries that kept them out. I’m pissed that Henderson hasn’t played yet. Grades have been posted so he should be good to go. I’m pretty sure I even saw him suited up on the bench today. Idk maybe we’re trying to keep him a secret for Georgia and thought we could win the game without him or something.

They wouldn't be able to make the trip or be in the arena if it was a testing thing. So it's either injury or coach's decision. Both were in street clothes though, so it's not Covid.

Per this overall discussion, I picked Southern Utah second in my poll behind Eastern Washington and ahead of the Griz. I said that on Tootell and Nuanez and I got killed on our phone and text line... I voted based on regular-season prediction. The thing to remember with the neutral site tournament is that the draw may help you a bit, but in Boise, it's a whole different ball game.

And on a neutral court with a win-or-go home scenario, I'm taking Travis DeCuire every time.

Ya I don’t disagree with you Colter. SUU has arguably their best team ever, and if these games are played in the normal conference window, these results might be different. I agree though, I’ll take the Griz in Boise over the t-birds.

 

[Colter_Nuanez56]

They wouldn't be able to make the trip or be in the arena if it was a testing thing. So it's either injury or coach's decision. Both were in street clothes though, so it's not Covid.

Per this overall discussion, I picked Southern Utah second in my poll behind Eastern Washington and ahead of the Griz. I said that on Tootell and Nuanez and I got killed on our phone and text line... I voted based on regular-season prediction. The thing to remember with the neutral site tournament is that the draw may help you a bit, but in Boise, it's a whole different ball game.

And on a neutral court with a win-or-go home scenario, I'm taking Travis DeCuire every time.

Ya I don’t disagree with you Colter. SUU has arguably their best team ever, and if these games are played in the normal conference window, these results might be different. I agree though, I’ll take the Griz in Boise over the t-birds.

Like I said on the radio, SUU is the single worst Big Sky team the Griz could play to open conference play period... then you add in that conference play is a month early...Montana really needs to figure out which guards can play, with what lineups, who can guard etc...so to go against the most veteran back court in the league in John Knight III and Dre Marin plus a lineup that also features a 6-7 former Big Ten transfer who can shoot in Tevian Jones is not ideal.

I knew if the Griz started with Beasley and Parker, Knight would just attack relentlessly. That happened Thursday to the tune of 21 points and nine rebounds. Knight is in his fifth year of college hoops and was once a starter on a Top 30 team when he was at Utah State. He is the biggest, most physically strong true on-ball player in the league at 6-foot-3, probably 210 pounds. He looks like a strong safety. He had his way by using pure physicality Thursday.

Then with Knight busted up today, SUU turned to Marin, who in my mind is one of the most underrated players in the league. He is a four-year starter who played his 100th game today, a Southern Utah program record. It's not surprise he was ready to take and make big shots on the way to 19 points and eight rebounds.

I've heard from many of you through text and on Twitter about the rebounding problems. It's an issue. But you also have to realize that SUU sends its guards plus Harrison Butler (the Dennis Rodman of the Big Sky) to the offensive glass and they did it with authority in this series. Knight had 15 rebounds and Marin has 12 for the weekend. That's something DeCuire will clean up real quick, and if the young players don't learn quickly, they will not play.

On one hand, Montana is 0-2 in league play for the first time in 13 years and the second time in the last 23. On the other hand, if the Griz get three offensive rebounds in two games or the refs swallow their whistles on the last possession two games in a row or both...or the Griz made a few more free throws...whatever, the Griz are 2-0 with a road sweep of what will likely be the toughest road trip of the conference season for any team in the Big Sky.

Montana has a long ways to go. They are not of the caliber they were a few years ago, at least not yet. And Sayeed Pridgett covered up SO MANY weaknesses last season. But what we watched this weekend is far different than what the product will look like in March.

 

[grizindabox]

Ya I don’t disagree with you Colter. SUU has arguably their best team ever, and if these games are played in the normal conference window, these results might be different. I agree though, I’ll take the Griz in Boise over the t-birds.

Like I said on the radio, SUU is the single worst Big Sky team the Griz could play to open conference play period... then you add in that conference play is a month early...Montana really needs to figure out which guards can play, with what lineups, who can guard etc...so to go against the most veteran back court in the league in John Knight III and Dre Marin plus a lineup that also features a 6-7 former Big Ten transfer who can shoot in Tevian Jones is not ideal.

I knew if the Griz started with Beasley and Parker, Knight would just attack relentlessly. That happened Thursday to the tune of 21 points and nine rebounds. Knight is in his fifth year of college hoops and was once a starter on a Top 30 team when he was at Utah State. He is the biggest, most physically strong true on-ball player in the league at 6-foot-3, probably 210 pounds. He looks like a strong safety. He had his way by using pure physicality Thursday.

Then with Knight busted up today, SUU turned to Marin, who in my mind is one of the most underrated players in the league. He is a four-year starter who played his 100th game today, a Southern Utah program record. It's not surprise he was ready to take and make big shots on the way to 19 points and eight rebounds.

I've heard from many of you through text and on Twitter about the rebounding problems. It's an issue. But you also have to realize that SUU sends its guards plus Harrison Butler (the Dennis Rodman of the Big Sky) to the offensive glass and they did it with authority in this series. Knight had 15 rebounds and Marin has 12 for the weekend. That's something DeCuire will clean up real quick, and if the young players don't learn quickly, they will not play.

On one hand, Montana is 0-2 in league play for the first time in 13 years and the second time in the last 23. On the other hand, if the Griz get three offensive rebounds in two games or the refs swallow their whistles on the last possession two games in a row or both...or the Griz made a few more free throws...whatever, the Griz are 2-0 with a road sweep of what will likely be the toughest road trip of the conference season for any team in the Big Sky.

Montana has a long ways to go. They are not of the caliber they were a few years ago, at least not yet. And Sayeed Pridgett covered up SO MANY weaknesses last season. But what we watched this weekend is far different than what the product will look like in March.

On the rebounding issue, the Griz have had guards in the past that were really good rebounders and made up for some of the deficiencies. This teams doesn't seem to have that guy.