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Griz @ U of Northern Colorado

Once we had it tied and then they made their run, we just couldn't close the gap again. Tomorrow, just looking at the stats, it will seem like this game was won/lost at the FT line. 18-6 margin by NC.
 
The forth game in an eight day stretch, on the road against one of the league favorites. Tough night for the Griz, but they gave themselves a fighting chance. Nice night for Manuel. It’s nice to see some guys other than Sayeed having career highs. I think bodes well for the rest of the season. Go Griz!
 
Couldn't survive what will most likely be Pridgett's worst game of the year. At least Manuel seems to have found his stroke, he was lights out. Mack played really well, too bad he wasn't able to redshirt, he's gonna be a guy who develops slowly on offense. DCH played a nice game, too, hard to believe how young he is.
 
Jaredkuehn said:
The forth game in an eight day stretch, on the road against one of the league favorites. Tough night for the Griz, but they gave themselves a fighting chance. Nice night for Manuel. It’s nice to see some guys other than Sayeed having career highs. I think bodes well for the rest of the season. Go Griz!
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Things were lined up against them for sure, most teams will be happy with a split on that road swing. Still need to develop better flow offensively, but considering all the new guys I'm going to be patient.
 
MikeyGriz said:
Once we had it tied and then they made their run, we just couldn't close the gap again. Tomorrow, just looking at the stats, it will seem like this game was won/lost at the FT line. 18-6 margin by NC.
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Not just "seem like." The foul line was the difference ... everything else was fairly close or evened out. Almost exactly the same percentage on FG (but the Griz took more shots), fairly close on treys (but UNC took more), 29-31 on rebounds, and 16-17 on steals and turnovers. And the fouls called were not all that different: 16 against the Griz, 13 against the Bears.

But the foul tries were 22 for them, 6 for UM. So the Griz were called for "in the act of shooting" way, way more often. (They hit a high percentage of those, but the Griz were not all that bad.) Whether that was "real" or homer refs I cannot say, since I could not watch the game. But it was the only really big difference in the stats.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
MikeyGriz said:
Once we had it tied and then they made their run, we just couldn't close the gap again. Tomorrow, just looking at the stats, it will seem like this game was won/lost at the FT line. 18-6 margin by NC.
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Not just "seem like." The foul line was the difference ... everything else was fairly close or evened out. Almost exactly the same percentage on FG (but the Griz took more shots), fairly close on treys (but UNC took more), 29-31 on rebounds, and 16-17 on steals and turnovers. And the fouls called were not all that different: 16 against the Griz, 13 against the Bears.

But the foul tries were 22 for them, 6 for UM. So the Griz were called for "in the act of shooting" way, way more often. (They hit a high percentage of those, but the Griz were not all that bad.) Whether that was "real" or homer refs I cannot say, since I could not watch the game. But it was the only really big difference in the stats.
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They had more attempts because they were in the bonus (and double bonus) quicker and we had to foul at the end to put them on the line. It was our only realistic chance (slim as it was). But to their credit, they hit their FT's when it counted.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
MikeyGriz said:
Once we had it tied and then they made their run, we just couldn't close the gap again. Tomorrow, just looking at the stats, it will seem like this game was won/lost at the FT line. 18-6 margin by NC.
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Not just "seem like." The foul line was the difference ... everything else was fairly close or evened out. Almost exactly the same percentage on FG (but the Griz took more shots), fairly close on treys (but UNC took more), 29-31 on rebounds, and 16-17 on steals and turnovers. And the fouls called were not all that different: 16 against the Griz, 13 against the Bears.

But the foul tries were 22 for them, 6 for UM. So the Griz were called for "in the act of shooting" way, way more often. (They hit a high percentage of those, but the Griz were not all that bad.) Whether that was "real" or homer refs I cannot say, since I could not watch the game. But it was the only really big difference in the stats.
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I thought the refs called a decent game by BSC standards. WE got behind big early, when that happens you tend to press, get a little overzealous and pick up some cheapies on shots, too. Blondie got fouled a couple times on triples when we got down early. Then throw in half a dozen in garbage time and the disparity isn't as bad as it might seem.
 
Jaredkuehn said:
The forth game in an eight day stretch, on the road against one of the league favorites. Tough night for the Griz, but they gave themselves a fighting chance. Nice night for Manuel. It’s nice to see some guys other than Sayeed having career highs. I think bodes well for the rest of the season. Go Griz!
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:thumb:
 
I'm not an x's and o's guy, so take what I say here with at a least a yuk or two.

DeCuire's defense requires post players to come out as far as the three-point line to defend. This can be a good thing, especially if you have a nimble rim-protector who can scramble back to defend the post.

But it can also leave you vulnerable at the rim, and it was my impression last night that Northern Colorado was exploiting fully this vulnerability. Time and again they were getting layups, especially to the left, like they were bowling balls rolling down an empty lane. Even the commentators brought this up, saying Montana had to fix this.

Enter Mack Anderson, probably our most versatile big, and best shot blocker. His performance last night was a highlight for me. I saw flashes that he can be very good in DeCuire's system, where before he looked totally lost to me.

But what suffered with his presence was our low-post offense. Anderson does not yet have the low-post moves that either Samuelson or Selcuk possess, and that showed. Samuelson's low-post offense, so successful against Southern Utah, disappeared last night. Had Manuel not had the game he did last night, this game might have been ugly.

Still, I love our personnel. The freshmen still seem tentative--Vazquez to shoot, Owens and Carter-Hollinger to make offensive moves near the basket. But they are getting better with each game. We may not win the Big Sky this year, but I would not trade our personnel for any other team in the league.
 
citay said:
I'm not an x's and o's guy, so take what I say here with at a least a yuk or two.

DeCuire's defense requires post players to come out as far as the three-point line to defend. This can be a good thing, especially if you have a nimble rim-protector who can scramble back to defend the post.

But it can also leave you vulnerable at the rim, and it was my impression last night that Northern Colorado was exploiting fully this vulnerability. Time and again they were getting layups, especially to the left, like they were bowling balls rolling down an empty lane. Even the commentators brought this up, saying Montana had to fix this.

Enter Mack Anderson, probably our most versatile big, and best shot blocker. His performance last night was a highlight for me. I saw flashes that he can be very good in DeCuire's system, where before he looked totally lost to me.

But what suffered with his presence was our low-post offense. Anderson does not yet have the low-post moves that either Samuelson or Selcuk possess, and that showed. Samuelson's low-post offense, so successful against Southern Utah, disappeared last night. Had Manuel not had the game he did last night, this game might have been ugly.

Still, I love our personnel. The freshmen still seem tentative--Vazquez to shoot, Owens and Carter-Hollinger to make offensive moves near the basket. But they are getting better with each game. We may not win the Big Sky this year, but I would not trade our personnel for any other team in the league.
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:thumb: Good analysis. Good also to keep in mind the Griz team that won two straight Big Sky titles had a similar "learning" curve as a frosh-soph dominated team. The potential is on the floor. They get better game by game.
 
Rim protection should improve with Steadman next year and it is a vulnerability of the D. Ideally more depth as overplaying and recovering is hard to sustain over time, takes a lot of energy. Mack played the back end well, encouraging. To me, the D is ahead of the O at this point. They played good enough D to win that game, more reps for everybody should build more offensive flow. 3 and 1 given the learning curve seems a pretty decent result thus far.
 
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