Griz to play U of Washington

[kemajic]

Spanky, no smack intended, but just curious, are you a newer GRIZ fan? Like 2001 and up?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Funny; Spanky is as old as the hills. And correct. Outside of the BSC, why would anyone be aware of the several members that never make the playoffs, never draw five figures, rarely have a .500 season, etc. And have little academic notoriety...

Do you really think recruits (particularly out of state) come to UM for the opportunity to play SUU and UNC? They want the schedule to be familiar and impressive to their circle of friends and relatives back home. In the Read years when we were wannabes and played up a lot, it got us on the map to play up tough with a few wins (e.g. OSU) and several tough losses (e.g., UO, WSU). It is a significant help in recruiting.

 

[grizindabox]

Everyone's love affair with FCS football is the playoffs and deciding the National Champion on the field. Knowing this, how does playing a FBS team, which more times than not will be a loss, help in getting to this goal? Since a championship is the ultimate goal, does it not make more sense to have a solid FCS schedule, with all games winnable?

 

[grizindabox]

Spanky, no smack intended, but just curious, are you a newer GRIZ fan? Like 2001 and up?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Funny; Spanky is as old as the hills. And correct. Outside of the BSC, why would anyone be aware of the several members that never make the playoffs, never draw five figures, rarely have a .500 season, etc. And have little academic notoriety...

Do you really think recruits (particularly out of state) come to UM for the opportunity to play SUU and UNC? They want the schedule to be familiar and impressive to their circle of friends and relatives back home. In the Read years when we were wannabes and played up a lot, it got us on the map to play up tough with a few wins (e.g. OSU) and several tough losses (e.g., UO, WSU). It is a significant help in recruiting.

I think this is false. Out of state kids that are fringe FBS players look at the success of the program. They look at programs that win, and have a chance to win a Championship every season. It is the success of the program more than playing OSU or WSU. Getting a chance to play one of these schools may be considered a plus, but is definitely not anything that would sway a kid.

 

[PlayerRep]

Spanky, no smack intended, but just curious, are you a newer GRIZ fan? Like 2001 and up?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Funny; Spanky is as old as the hills. And correct. Outside of the BSC, why would anyone be aware of the several members that never make the playoffs, never draw five figures, rarely have a .500 season, etc. And have little academic notoriety...

Do you really think recruits (particularly out of state) come to UM for the opportunity to play SUU and UNC? They want the schedule to be familiar and impressive to their circle of friends and relatives back home. In the Read years when we were wannabes and played up a lot, it got us on the map to play up tough with a few wins (e.g. OSU) and several tough losses (e.g., UO, WSU). It is a significant help in recruiting.

I think this is false. Out of state kids that are fringe FBS players look at the success of the program. They look at programs that win, and have a chance to win a Championship every season. It is the success of the program more than playing OSU or WSU. Getting a chance to play one of these schools may be considered a plus, but is definitely not anything that would sway a kid.

I agree with you, GBox.

 

[kemajic]

Spanky, no smack intended, but just curious, are you a newer GRIZ fan? Like 2001 and up?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Funny; Spanky is as old as the hills. And correct. Outside of the BSC, why would anyone be aware of the several members that never make the playoffs, never draw five figures, rarely have a .500 season, etc. And have little academic notoriety...

Do you really think recruits (particularly out of state) come to UM for the opportunity to play SUU and UNC? They want the schedule to be familiar and impressive to their circle of friends and relatives back home. In the Read years when we were wannabes and played up a lot, it got us on the map to play up tough with a few wins (e.g. OSU) and several tough losses (e.g., UO, WSU). It is a significant help in recruiting.

I think this is false. Out of state kids that are fringe FBS players look at the success of the program. They look at programs that win, and have a chance to win a Championship every season. It is the success of the program more than playing OSU or WSU. Getting a chance to play one of these schools may be considered a plus, but is definitely not anything that would sway a kid.

You're welcome to your opinion; mine is based on discussions with numerous recruits and recruiters over the years at several programs. Yours?

 

[jcu27]

I've met a lot of people who didn't even know what fcs was...

 

[grizindabox]

So Kem, you want to tell me that a 42-16 loss to the only FBS team the Griz have played over the last 5 seasons sways out of state kids to play football at Montana? That the Griz not possibly playing another FBS school until 2017 will have kids turn down Montana? Or do you think that playing a full FCS schedule, lets say going 9-2 or 10-1, advancing deep into the playoffs, and maybe even winning it, might be more of a factor?

 

[grizhunter]

I've met a lot of people who didn't even know what fcs was...

I've met a lot of people who didn't even know what football was...

 

[kemajic]

So Kem, you want to tell me that a 42-16 loss to the only FBS team the Griz have played over the last 5 seasons sways out of state kids to play football at Montana? That the Griz not possibly playing another FBS school until 2017 will have kids turn down Montana? Or do you think that playing a full FCS schedule, lets say going 9-2 or 10-1, advancing deep into the playoffs, and maybe even winning it, might be more of a factor?

Most kids that you want from out of state are not targeting FCS; they accept it when it's their best deal left on the table. They know almost nothing about it; where would they learn - articles in the Seattle, SF, LA, Denver or Phoenix papers? See if you can find them. They know FBS teams and if there were some consistently on the schedule in future years, it would a strong selling point. It's exposure for them to major college football even if they didn't have the offers. They always want to see how they measure up. It is seldom that the schedule for the next four years doesn't come up in a recruiting discussion.

 

[WaGriz4life]

So Kem, you want to tell me that a 42-16 loss to the only FBS team the Griz have played over the last 5 seasons sways out of state kids to play football at Montana? That the Griz not possibly playing another FBS school until 2017 will have kids turn down Montana? Or do you think that playing a full FCS schedule, lets say going 9-2 or 10-1, advancing deep into the playoffs, and maybe even winning it, might be more of a factor?

Most kids that you want from out of state are not targeting FCS; they accept it when it's their best deal left on the table. They know almost nothing about it; where would they learn - articles in the Seattle, SF, LA, Denver or Phoenix papers? See if you can find them. They know FBS teams and if there were some consistently on the schedule in future years, it would a strong selling point. It's exposure for them to major college football even if they didn't have the offers. They always want to see how they measure up. It is seldom that the schedule for the next four years doesn't come up in a recruiting discussion.

Argreed Kem. Good posts. Pflugrad had said he wanted to play an FBS team every 3 years, so every player would have a chance to play against the best competition once in their careers, an this is what he was telling recruits.

People that think playing against Tennessee in front of 95,000 in the almighty SEC country wasn't used as a recruiting tool, are nuts

 

[Bluenoser]

As will I. Lots of family in Seattle area....and I lived there myself for 3 years. Better break out the rain ponchos from storage.

Likely not a need for rain ponchos. The game will be in September and as a season ticket holder the last 14 years or so there have been very few games where rain gear was required. Seattle (and western Montana) has some of the nicest weather on earth in August/September.

Yeah, the Griz would have pasted the Dawgs for about a 3 year stretch in the Willingham years.

 

[grizindabox]

Kem, I agree that most out of state kids are not looking at FCS, but you are wrong on how most find out about. Most know nothing until they are actually contacted by a particular school, and then they use this thing called the internet to learn more. What do they find out on the internet....that Montana is a top FCS program that is very successful on the field with a chance to win a Championship every year. Very few out of state kids see a story about Montana getting pasted by Tennessee in the paper and then think, I would like to play football there.

 

['68griz]

So Kem, you want to tell me that a 42-16 loss to the only FBS team the Griz have played over the last 5 seasons sways out of state kids to play football at Montana? That the Griz not possibly playing another FBS school until 2017 will have kids turn down Montana? Or do you think that playing a full FCS schedule, lets say going 9-2 or 10-1, advancing deep into the playoffs, and maybe even winning it, might be more of a factor?

+1

 

[Spanky]

grizindabox....the student-athletes look at many things. They are very interested in the coach and the schedule. If they have the talent, usually they look to a FBS school. If they are borderline, then probably FCS and the schedule is going to be very important. They will rely on their coach and parents for advise when it is time for a decision. Don't forget the importance of the conference affiliation of the school when it comes time for the student-athlete to make his/her choice.

 

[grizindabox]

grizindabox....the student-athletes look at many things. They are very interested in the coach and the schedule. If they have the talent, usually they look to a FBS school. If they are borderline, then probably FCS and the schedule is going to be very important. They will rely on their coach and parents for advise when it is time for a decision. Don't forget the importance of the conference affiliation of the school when it comes time for the student-athlete to make his/her choice.

Spanky, we already know where you stand...you would like 11-12 FBS games every year.

 

[Spanky]

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[AZGrizFan]

As will I. Lots of family in Seattle area....and I lived there myself for 3 years. Better break out the rain ponchos from storage.

Likely not a need for rain ponchos. The game will be in September and as a season ticket holder the last 14 years or so there have been very few games where rain gear was required. Seattle (and western Montana) has some of the nicest weather on earth in August/September.

Yeah, the Griz would have pasted the Dawgs for about a 3 year stretch in the Willingham years.

It was the OTHER 10 months of the year where it sucked balls living there. :?

 

[Grizbeer]

As will I. Lots of family in Seattle area....and I lived there myself for 3 years. Better break out the rain ponchos from storage.

Likely not a need for rain ponchos. The game will be in September and as a season ticket holder the last 14 years or so there have been very few games where rain gear was required. Seattle (and western Montana) has some of the nicest weather on earth in August/September.

Yeah, the Griz would have pasted the Dawgs for about a 3 year stretch in the Willingham years.

It was the OTHER 10 months of the year where it sucked balls living there. :?

Must have changed since i lived there - Rain was always scheduled to start in conjunction with the Puyallup Fair in September. Then Monsoons started Thanksgiving weekend.

 

[ordigger]

Is this the qb we will be facing?

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ck-tate-martell-14-commits-washington-huskies

Only an 8th grader yet already committed.

 

[Bluenoser]

It always rains in Puyallup. Not saying it never rains here in August or Sept., but I remember very few September games that wasn't nice.

Sept. 13, 1997
Minimum Temperature 51.8 °F
Mean Temperature 61.6 °F
Maximum Temperature 69.8 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 20, 1997
Minimum Temperature 51.8 °F
Mean Temperature 61.4 °F
Maximum Temperature 75.2 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 19, 1998
Minimum Temperature 55.4 °F
Mean Temperature 60.9 °F
Maximum Temperature 68.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 18, 1999
Minimum Temperature 51.1 °F
Mean Temperature 61.7 °F
Maximum Temperature 75.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 25, 1999
Minimum Temperature 50.0 °F
Mean Temperature 58.1 °F
Maximum Temperature 66.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.02 IN


Sept. 2, 2000
Minimum Temperature 51.1 °F
Mean Temperature 58.8 °F
Maximum Temperature 68.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 9, 2000
Minimum Temperature 53.1 °F
Mean Temperature 57.5 °F
Maximum Temperature 66.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 8, 2001
Minimum Temperature 51.1 °F
Mean Temperature 61.2 °F
Maximum Temperature 73.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 22, 2001
Minimum Temperature 55.0 °F
Mean Temperature 63.0 °F
Maximum Temperature 77.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.01 IN


Sept. 7, 2002
Minimum Temperature 48.0 °F
Mean Temperature 60.0 °F
Maximum Temperature 70.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.04 IN

Sept. 21, 2002
Minimum Temperature 48.0 °F
Mean Temperature 58.2 °F
Maximum Temperature 70.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 28, 2002
Minimum Temperature 46.9 °F
Mean Temperature 60.9 °F
Maximum Temperature 75.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 6, 2003
Minimum Temperature 57.0 °F
Mean Temperature 69.0 °F
Maximum Temperature 84.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 20, 2003
Minimum Temperature 50.0 °F
Mean Temperature 57.7 °F
Maximum Temperature 66.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.14 IN

Sept. 27, 2003
Minimum Temperature 55.9 °F
Mean Temperature 67.2 °F
Maximum Temperature 79.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 5, 2004
Minimum Temperature 53.1 °F
Mean Temperature 62.8 °F
Maximum Temperature 71.1 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 18, 2004
Minimum Temperature 48.2 °F
Mean Temperature 52.7 °F
Maximum Temperature 57.2 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 3, 2005
Minimum Temperature 55.4 °F
Mean Temperature 63.9 °F
Maximum Temperature 71.6 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 10, 2005
Minimum Temperature 53.1 °F
Mean Temperature 56.8 °F
Maximum Temperature 66.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.05 IN

Sept. 17, 2005
Minimum Temperature 53.8 °F
Mean Temperature 57.7 °F
Maximum Temperature 64.4 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 24, 2005
Minimum Temperature 47.5 °F
Mean Temperature 54.9 °F
Maximum Temperature 64.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 2, 2006
Minimum Temperature 58.3 °F
Mean Temperature 68.8 °F
Maximum Temperature 84.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 16, 2006
Minimum Temperature 51.8 °F
Mean Temperature 56.5 °F
Maximum Temperature 66.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 23, 2006
Minimum Temperature 52.5 °F
Mean Temperature 57.6 °F
Maximum Temperature 65.8 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 8, 2007
Minimum Temperature 56.8 °F
Mean Temperature 61.7 °F
Maximum Temperature 66.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 15, 2007
Minimum Temperature 55.6 °F
Mean Temperature 59.8 °F
Maximum Temperature 65.3 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 29, 2007
Minimum Temperature 49.5 °F
Mean Temperature 53.2 °F
Maximum Temperature 58.6 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 6, 2008
Minimum Temperature 56.1 °F
Mean Temperature 61.3 °F
Maximum Temperature 69.3 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 13, 2008
Minimum Temperature 54.3 °F
Mean Temperature 60.8 °F
Maximum Temperature 72.1 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 27, 2008
Minimum Temperature 54.9 °F
Mean Temperature 58.2 °F
Maximum Temperature 64.9 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 5, 2009
Minimum Temperature 59.4 °F
Mean Temperature 63.3 °F
Maximum Temperature 69.4 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 12, 2009
Minimum Temperature 56.8 °F
Mean Temperature 63.1 °F
Maximum Temperature 77.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 19, 2009
Minimum Temperature 58.6 °F
Mean Temperature 62.2 °F
Maximum Temperature 69.1 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 11, 2010
Minimum Temperature 55.4 °F
Mean Temperature 58.3 °F
Maximum Temperature 62.2 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 18, 2010
Minimum Temperature 57.9 °F
Mean Temperature 62.5 °F
Maximum Temperature 67.1 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN


Sept. 3, 2011
Minimum Temperature 56.7 °F
Mean Temperature 63.4 °F
Maximum Temperature 75.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 10, 2011
Minimum Temperature 56.7 °F
Mean Temperature 64.9 °F
Maximum Temperature 75.0 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Sept. 24, 2011
Minimum Temperature 61.9 °F
Mean Temperature 69.3 °F
Maximum Temperature 78.1 °F
Total Precipitation 0.00 IN

Since 1997 we've had 33 games with 0.0" rain. Four games with less than 5/100" precipitation, and one with 14/100".