Griz to Finish 3rd in Big Sky

[CV Griz Fan]

Jeez, do you Cat posters really think having avoided injury means a qb isn't a pussy? My god, talk about ignorant and unknowledgeable. Avoiding injury may be an indication he is a pussy. The reason I think McGhee has appeared to be a bit of a pussy is because he avoids contact. That is probably one of the main reasons he hasn't been injured more. Maybe he has been told to go out of his way to avoid contact. If he's running more this year, we'll see if he's a pussy.

Ignorant and unknowledgeable? You must be looking in a mirror. No coach that I have ever known tells his starting QB to go out and find someone to hit and hit him hard.

Given all the medical science now concerning CTE and concussions, these "pussy" comments are are just "bullshit" and "unknowledgeable". Why don't you ask the family members of Junior Seau, Andre Waters et al if they'd wished their family members had maybe played to "extend" their careers a little. Everybody teases Dion Sanders about never making a big hit but he got out of the NFL with most of his faculties intact. Put your Cats/Griz rivalry aside for a moment. If DM wants to avoid a a few extra hits in a game, then let him. After all, he is the one that has to live with the "after football" ramifications.

 

[kemajic]

Griz have the better RBs. DM is an above average Qb but he lacks solid passing accuracy. As far a DM as a person I think he's a great guy, I have seen a couple of his interviews, he's respectable, smart, he has a knack for always saying the right thing. I hope he has a great career after college. If he shores up his passing ability he would be one of the greats to me.

JJ is going to tear it up for the next two years

McGhee and Kirk look good against weak teams. But Kirk is too slow to be effective against the better teams and McGhee has not shown he can lead the team against playoff caliber teams. Our linebackers and DEs are faster than Kirk. He has a 50 yd average in two games vs. the Griz (3.0 ave/carry) and McGhee has led his team to one TD against the Griz in the last 10 quarters. That does not hold up when our offense is led by Mr. Johnson.

 

[PlayerRep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq7BisNSRfI


pr was resting easy knowing there's very little video out there on f.c.s. players, let alone mcghee to refute his claim, but i think this clip tells you a lot about pr's lack of knowledge about football in general and mcghee specifically. pr isn't qualified to make a statement on any players toughness. go to the :20 mark of this. head first into four of our defenders. apparently pr had given up on us by then. either that or he didn't think we'd win so he didn't go. what's your excuse now pr?

Just one play (in 3 seasons). Not bad. Didn't have anywhere to go. At least, he didn't slide.

 

[PlayerRep]

Jeez, do you Cat posters really think having avoided injury means a qb isn't a pussy? My god, talk about ignorant and unknowledgeable. Avoiding injury may be an indication he is a pussy. The reason I think McGhee has appeared to be a bit of a pussy is because he avoids contact. That is probably one of the main reasons he hasn't been injured more. Maybe he has been told to go out of his way to avoid contact. If he's running more this year, we'll see if he's a pussy.

Ignorant and unknowledgeable? You must be looking in a mirror. No coach that I have ever known tells his starting QB to go out and find someone to hit and hit him hard.

Given all the medical science now concerning CTE and concussions, these "pussy" comments are are just "bullshit" and "unknowledgeable". Why don't you ask the family members of Junior Seau, Andre Waters et al if they'd wished their family members had maybe played to "extend" their careers a little. Everybody teases Dion Sanders about never making a big hit but he got out of the NFL with most of his faculties intact. Put your Cats/Griz rivalry aside for a moment. If DM wants to avoid a a few extra hits in a game, then let him. After all, he is the one that has to live with the "after football" ramifications.

You sound like a pussy. Looks like you never played the game either.

 

[getgrizzy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq7BisNSRfI


pr was resting easy knowing there's very little video out there on f.c.s. players, let alone mcghee to refute his claim, but i think this clip tells you a lot about pr's lack of knowledge about football in general and mcghee specifically. pr isn't qualified to make a statement on any players toughness. go to the :20 mark of this. head first into four of our defenders. apparently pr had given up on us by then. either that or he didn't think we'd win so he didn't go. what's your excuse now pr?

Just one play (in 3 seasons). Not bad. Didn't have anywhere to go. At least, he didn't slide.

wow. you been thinking of your response since 9 this morning and this is it? have another vodka collins. where's your video of him being a pussy?

 

[poorgriz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq7BisNSRfI


pr was resting easy knowing there's very little video out there on f.c.s. players, let alone mcghee to refute his claim, but i think this clip tells you a lot about pr's lack of knowledge about football in general and mcghee specifically. pr isn't qualified to make a statement on any players toughness. go to the :20 mark of this. head first into four of our defenders. apparently pr had given up on us by then. either that or he didn't think we'd win so he didn't go. what's your excuse now pr?

Just one play (in 3 seasons). Not bad. Didn't have anywhere to go. At least, he didn't slide.

He probably should have... Would have been the smarter move. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, he's just too damn tough and too damn competitive to slide most of the time. In the same situation you probably would have elected to... er, wait, I forgot you would never have been in that situation because you weren't an All American D1 QB.

 

[getgrizzy]

Griz have the better RBs. DM is an above average Qb but he lacks solid passing accuracy. As far a DM as a person I think he's a great guy, I have seen a couple of his interviews, he's respectable, smart, he has a knack for always saying the right thing. I hope he has a great career after college. If he shores up his passing ability he would be one of the greats to me.

JJ is going to tear it up for the next two years

McGhee and Kirk look good against weak teams. But Kirk is too slow to be effective against the better teams and McGhee has not shown he can lead the team against playoff caliber teams. Our linebackers and DEs are faster than Kirk. He has a 50 yd average in two games vs. the Griz (3.0 ave/carry) and McGhee has led his team to one TD against the Griz in the last 10 quarters. That does not hold up when our offense is led by Mr. Johnson.

remember cole bergquist? his first year he lost to 6-4 m.s.u. and then cal poly at home in the first round 35-14, in his second year he got beat out for the starting job, his third year he lost to wofford at home in the first round. he didn't win a playoff game or win a league m.v.p., but his senior year he won our second ever road playoff game and got us to the chipper. so i'm not sure this past performance going into your senior year measuring stick is valid.

on the flip side brian ah y'at went to the championship as a sophomore, but got beat by mcneese in the first round as a junior and western illinois 52-9 in the first round as a senior.

 

[poorgriz]

No junk here.

I swear this is all the cat fans use for defense its starting to get a little pathetic...

Hmmm, so we need to "defend" him now? Oh that's right... I guess we do. See? Many of you DO need us obnoxious CAT fans on here to correct things. So far we have the following opinions of DM:

He's:

Slow
Bad decisions when pocket breaks down
Bad passer
Can't perform under pressure
A prick, teammates dislike him
A pussy
Can't win big games
Too short
Not durable

And let's not forget... Injured shoulder didn't heal, career ender. Also Transferring to TCU.

Did I miss anything?

 

[PlayerRep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq7BisNSRfI


pr was resting easy knowing there's very little video out there on f.c.s. players, let alone mcghee to refute his claim, but i think this clip tells you a lot about pr's lack of knowledge about football in general and mcghee specifically. pr isn't qualified to make a statement on any players toughness. go to the :20 mark of this. head first into four of our defenders. apparently pr had given up on us by then. either that or he didn't think we'd win so he didn't go. what's your excuse now pr?

Just one play (in 3 seasons). Not bad. Didn't have anywhere to go. At least, he didn't slide.

He probably should have... Would have been the smarter move. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, he's just too damn tough and too damn competitive to slide most of the time. In the same situation you probably would have elected to... er, wait, I forgot you would never have been in that situation because you weren't an All American D1 QB.

True, but at least I played on a D-I team (not I-AA) and on a top 20 team.

 

[PTGrizzly]

Jeez, do you Cat posters really think having avoided injury means a qb isn't a pussy? My god, talk about ignorant and unknowledgeable. Avoiding injury may be an indication he is a pussy. The reason I think McGhee has appeared to be a bit of a pussy is because he avoids contact. That is probably one of the main reasons he hasn't been injured more. Maybe he has been told to go out of his way to avoid contact. If he's running more this year, we'll see if he's a pussy.

Ignorant and unknowledgeable? You must be looking in a mirror. No coach that I have ever known tells his starting QB to go out and find someone to hit and hit him hard.

Given all the medical science now concerning CTE and concussions, these "pussy" comments are are just "bullshit" and "unknowledgeable". Why don't you ask the family members of Junior Seau, Andre Waters et al if they'd wished their family members had maybe played to "extend" their careers a little. Everybody teases Dion Sanders about never making a big hit but he got out of the NFL with most of his faculties intact. Put your Cats/Griz rivalry aside for a moment. If DM wants to avoid a a few extra hits in a game, then let him. After all, he is the one that has to live with the "after football" ramifications.

You sound like a pussy. Looks like you never played the game either.

Why do they still let you post here?

Unbelievable.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Jeez, do you Cat posters really think having avoided injury means a qb isn't a pussy? My god, talk about ignorant and unknowledgeable. Avoiding injury may be an indication he is a pussy. The reason I think McGhee has appeared to be a bit of a pussy is because he avoids contact. That is probably one of the main reasons he hasn't been injured more. Maybe he has been told to go out of his way to avoid contact. If he's running more this year, we'll see if he's a pussy.

Ignorant and unknowledgeable? You must be looking in a mirror. No coach that I have ever known tells his starting QB to go out and find someone to hit and hit him hard.

Given all the medical science now concerning CTE and concussions, these "pussy" comments are are just "bullshit" and "unknowledgeable". Why don't you ask the family members of Junior Seau, Andre Waters et al if they'd wished their family members had maybe played to "extend" their careers a little. Everybody teases Dion Sanders about never making a big hit but he got out of the NFL with most of his faculties intact. Put your Cats/Griz rivalry aside for a moment. If DM wants to avoid a a few extra hits in a game, then let him. After all, he is the one that has to live with the "after football" ramifications.

You sound like a pussy. Looks like you never played the game either.

At your age PR you seem to have some mental capabilities left. I guess you played to "avoid" a few hits too.
You should be ashamed if yourself!

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

Tell me what would you rather have going into the season with a returning known good RB (Jordan Canada), and a backup that has played and done very well
(Travon Van) and then a couple of unknown (Joey Counts, Jamal Wilson, Gavin Hagfors, Treshawn Favors). Or do you prefer that your whole RB group (if Kirk goes down again or doesn't return from his injury) is basically unknown (Shawn Johnson, Chad Newell, Nick LaSane, Cody Dopps, Gunnar Brekke, Morris Gates-Mouton, Cody Vitt) and hope that at least one will step up

Still ducking the issue, huh? Try and answer the question that I've placed before you without asking a question in return, please. Or is the subject matter really a major concern for the MSU Bobcats and they just can't deal with it? It won't just be the Griz drooling on the defensive front this coming season. It'll be all other opponents as well. This especially if the Bobcats have but a Shawn Johnson (all 5'9" and 172 lbs of him) and a group of rookie running backs protecting their QB on blocking assignments if and whenever the Bobcat QB goes back for a pass. Hence the perceived reason on just why it is that DeNarius McGhee is being groomed into learning running plays out of formation from the QB position. Sure, you can vanilla it all you want but there has to be a reason. The reason evidently is that that is not confronted by the MSU Bobcat fans in this thread. The fear that Cody Kirk has not come back from his injury, or just might go down with a recurrance of that selfsame injury, and the subsequent running game handed to primarily, if not in total, an inexperienced and untested running back corps in the above mentioned list of candidates. Of which only one is an upperclassman (Shawn Johnson) while all others are freshmen!

 

[CatzWillRise]

Tell me what would you rather have going into the season with a returning known good RB (Jordan Canada), and a backup that has played and done very well
(Travon Van) and then a couple of unknown (Joey Counts, Jamal Wilson, Gavin Hagfors, Treshawn Favors). Or do you prefer that your whole RB group (if Kirk goes down again or doesn't return from his injury) is basically unknown (Shawn Johnson, Chad Newell, Nick LaSane, Cody Dopps, Gunnar Brekke, Morris Gates-Mouton, Cody Vitt) and hope that at least one will step up

Still ducking the issue, huh? Try and answer the question that I've placed before you without asking a question in return, please. Or is the subject matter really a major concern for the MSU Bobcats and they just can't deal with it? It won't just be the Griz drooling on the defensive front this coming season. It'll be all other opponents as well. This especially if the Bobcats have but a Shawn Johnson (all 5'9" and 172 lbs of him) and a group of rookie running backs protecting their QB on blocking assignments if and whenever the Bobcat QB goes back for a pass. Hence the perceived reason on just why it is that DeNarius McGhee is being groomed into learning running plays out of formation for the QB. Sure, you can vanilla it all you want but there has to be a reason. The reason evidently is that that is not confronted by the MSU Bobcat fans in this thread. The fear that cody Kirk has not come back from his injury, or just might go down with a recurrance of that selfsame injury, and the subsequent running game handed to primarily, if not in total, an inexperienced and untested running back corps in the above mentioned list of candidates. Of which only one is an upperclassman (Shawn Johnson) while all others are freshmen!

Or, you know, new OC that likes his QBs to run more than the last one.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

Or, you know, new OC that likes his QBs to run more than the last one.

Sounds like more vanilla to me. I'd have to still stand by my observance that I'd be mighty surprised to see Cody Kirk used extensvely against Monmouth and Colorado Mesa. A good chance for the Bobcats to put to the test the corps of freshmen running backs that they have and ascertain just who has the grit and who doesn't. Being freshmen at present that means the most they've done is either spring scrimmage at best the preceeding year or at the very least the fall practise immediately preceeding the season. Many players may look half way decent in practise but just how well they perform in an actual game situation may just be a different story all together. I wouldn't be too over confident if I were you.

 

[NLGrizFan]

No junk here.

I swear this is all the cat fans use for defense its starting to get a little pathetic...

Hmmm, so we need to "defend" him now? Oh that's right... I guess we do. See? Many of you DO need us obnoxious CAT fans on here to correct things. So far we have the following opinions of DM:

He's:

Slow
Bad decisions when pocket breaks down
Bad passer
Can't perform under pressure
A prick, teammates dislike him
A pussy
Can't win big games
Too short
Not durable

And let's not forget... Injured shoulder didn't heal, career ender. Also Transferring to TCU.

Did I miss anything?

Don't forget the famous chant, "START. THE. BUS." That says it all right there. When the opposing team is yelling that in a PLAYOFF game, you know you don't belong there.

 

[-MiningCityGriz-]

No junk here.

I swear this is all the cat fans use for defense its starting to get a little pathetic...

Hmmm, so we need to "defend" him now? Oh that's right... I guess we do. See? Many of you DO need us obnoxious CAT fans on here to correct things. So far we have the following opinions of DM:

He's:

Slow
Bad decisions when pocket breaks down
Bad passer
Can't perform under pressure
A prick, teammates dislike him
A pussy
Can't win big games
Too short
Not durable

And let's not forget... Injured shoulder didn't heal, career ender. Also Transferring to TCU.

Did I miss anything?

Nope you did a great overview....Nice Job!! :thumb:

 

[NLGrizFan]

LoL ^

 

[grizcountry420]

"I have never tooted my horn in the internet."

"True, but at least I played on a D-I team (not I-AA) and on a top 20 team."

 

[Ursa Major]

No junk here.

Perhaps I have a different opinion of this oft posted photo...I view it and think that that little Benedict Arnold bastard needs to be spanked and grounded for posing with a cat after that loss...

Fred Rogers

 

[Cats2506]

Tell me what would you rather have going into the season with a returning known good RB (Jordan Canada), and a backup that has played and done very well
(Travon Van) and then a couple of unknown (Joey Counts, Jamal Wilson, Gavin Hagfors, Treshawn Favors). Or do you prefer that your whole RB group (if Kirk goes down again or doesn't return from his injury) is basically unknown (Shawn Johnson, Chad Newell, Nick LaSane, Cody Dopps, Gunnar Brekke, Morris Gates-Mouton, Cody Vitt) and hope that at least one will step up

Still ducking the issue, huh? Try and answer the question that I've placed before you without asking a question in return, please. Or is the subject matter really a major concern for the MSU Bobcats and they just can't deal with it? It won't just be the Griz drooling on the defensive front this coming season. It'll be all other opponents as well. This especially if the Bobcats have but a Shawn Johnson (all 5'9" and 172 lbs of him) and a group of rookie running backs protecting their QB on blocking assignments if and whenever the Bobcat QB goes back for a pass. Hence the perceived reason on just why it is that DeNarius McGhee is being groomed into learning running plays out of formation from the QB position. Sure, you can vanilla it all you want but there has to be a reason. The reason evidently is that that is not confronted by the MSU Bobcat fans in this thread. The fear that Cody Kirk has not come back from his injury, or just might go down with a recurrance of that selfsame injury, and the subsequent running game handed to primarily, if not in total, an inexperienced and untested running back corps in the above mentioned list of candidates. Of which only one is an upperclassman (Shawn Johnson) while all others are freshmen!

I'm not worried about Kirk at all, from what I have heard he is ready for his senior campaign, however that being said he or any player on either team can take an injury before the first game is even played, if that happens I have confidence that our group of RB's will step up to the plate, on your side, you are just hoping that one DOES step up because all yuo have are hopes and dreams without any proven talent carrying the ball.