GRIZ/SUU-SR night game thread

[PlayerRep]

Terrific 1st half in every regard. Sweet back to back 3's coming from Jamar and Gfeller to end the half. Some much needed minutes tonight for Gfeller and Bradshaw. Riley just does not look to score. It was good to see him shoot his 3 though. Too bad, it did not fall. I thought Kemp looked great in the few minutes he got. I don't get why he does not see more minutes.

Jamar, Wiesner, Gregory, Deshields all with terrific 1st halves.

In limited minutes, Kemp scored 10 and was 4-4. Had 2 great dunks. Kareem gave him a couple beautiful dishes down low. Kareem sees the court so well. Kemp's a better rebounder and defender than the other two posts, even if he makes some defensive and rebounding mistakes. The coaches don't seem to tolerate Kemp's mistakes as much as they do with the other posts. Kemp's level of hustle and getting up and down the court, is much better than it was at the start of the season.

 

[UMGriz75]

3,619 in the crowd. Pretty good, really for 4 degrees in Missoula with a -10 wind child factor.

The crowd was fairly loud the whole game, but not large. It's cold, windy and nasty out there. I can understand people staying home, and out-of-towners staying off the roads.

Campus was officially closed yesterday, and UM announced today to "please stay off campus if you can." Everything has pretty much been cancelled. On my street, which is near campus, pedestrians have been walking down the middle of the streets; the sidewalks are drifted closed.

 

[UMGriz75]

There was some great shooting tonight. SUU couldn't find that little space where the ball is supposed to go to save their souls. But UM just did an outstanding job, outside, inside, motion, all very good.

 

[PlayerRep]

Griz are closer to 10th than 1st right now

How do you figure that? UM is is sole possession of 3d. Both teams in front of them have 2 road games remaining. ND has UNC on the road. UM has Cats at home and 2 on the road. UM is 10-7. 10th place team is 8-10. UM is 2.5 from 1st and 2.5 from 10th. 1 team is between UM and the 1st place team. 6 teams are between UM and 10th.

Where do you come up with so many dumb comments?

 

[grizindabox]

Griz are closer to 10th than 1st right now

How do you figure that? UM is is sole possession of 3d. Both teams in front of them have 2 road games remaining. ND has UNC on the road. UM has Cats at home and 2 on the road. UM is 11-7. 10th place team is 8-10. UM is 2.5 from 1st and 2.5 from 10th. 1 team is between UM and the 1st place team. 6 teams are between UM and 10th.

Where do you come up with so many dumb comments?

Basic math. Weber has 13 wins and UM has 10, 3 games from first.

UM has 10 wins and 10th place ISU has 8 wins, that is 2 games from 10th.

I was taught that 2 is smaller than 3, hence UM is closer to 10th than 1st.

And yes, I realize that UM has the tie-breaker with ISU, so they would really be 9th.

After a quick look, it would seem that the odds of the Griz finishing first are pretty similar to them placing 8th and missing the tournament.

 

[PlayerRep]

Griz are closer to 10th than 1st right now

How do you figure that? UM is is sole possession of 3d. Both teams in front of them have 2 road games remaining. ND has UNC on the road. UM has Cats at home and 2 on the road. UM is 11-7. 10th place team is 8-10. UM is 2.5 from 1st and 2.5 from 10th. 1 team is between UM and the 1st place team. 6 teams are between UM and 10th.

Where do you come up with so many dumb comments?

Basic math. Weber has 13 wins and UM has 10, 3 games from first.

UM has 10 wins and 10th place ISU has 8 wins, that is 2 games from 10th.

I was taught that 2 is smaller than 3, hence UM is closer to 10th than 1st.

And yes, I realize that UM has the tie-breaker with ISU, so they would really be 9th.

After a quick look, it would seem that the odds of the Griz finishing first are pretty similar to them placing 8th and missing the tournament.

That's not how it's calculated. You have to take losses into account too. UM has 2 losses fewer than the 1st place team, and 3 fewer wins. That means the difference is 2.5. UM has 2 more wins than the 10th place team, and 3 fewer losses. Thus, the difference is 2.5. Just as I stated in my original post. I can't believe you don't know that both wins and losses have to be taken into account.

 

[grizindabox]

Griz are closer to 10th than 1st right now

How do you figure that? UM is is sole possession of 3d. Both teams in front of them have 2 road games remaining. ND has UNC on the road. UM has Cats at home and 2 on the road. UM is 11-7. 10th place team is 8-10. UM is 2.5 from 1st and 2.5 from 10th. 1 team is between UM and the 1st place team. 6 teams are between UM and 10th.

Where do you come up with so many dumb comments?

Basic math. Weber has 13 wins and UM has 10, 3 games from first.

UM has 10 wins and 10th place ISU has 8 wins, that is 2 games from 10th.

I was taught that 2 is smaller than 3, hence UM is closer to 10th than 1st.

And yes, I realize that UM has the tie-breaker with ISU, so they would really be 9th.

After a quick look, it would seem that the odds of the Griz finishing first are pretty similar to them placing 8th and missing the tournament.

That's not how it's calculated. You have to take losses into account too. UM has 2 losses fewer than the 1st place team, and 3 fewer wins. That means the difference is 2.5. UM has 2 more wins than the 10th place team, and 3 fewer losses. Thus, the difference is 2.5. Just as I stated in my original post. I can't believe you don't know that both wins and losses have to be taken into account.

PR, how many games do the Griz need to win to catch Weber? Hint, it is not 2.5.
How many games does ISU have to win to catch UM? Once again, it is not 2.5.

I fully understand that UM has a game in hand, but it still leaves them 3 wins behind Weber and 2 wins ahead of ISU.

If they win on Monday, they will be closer to 1st then 10th, but they will still be just as close to Sac, EWU, and PSU, the 6th, 7th and 8th place teams.

 

[TrueGriz]

Guys, here is the standings. Right now, Griz are in 3rd place. That means, there Montana is only 2 teams from first place, and 7 teams from 10th place. therefore, Griz are closer to first place than 10th place. It is that simple. Now, Monday, we will see whether the Griz will be closer to 1st place or closer to 10th place. A loss Monday will likely mean Griz closer to 10th place than 1st place. But, right now, Griz are closer to 1st place. Sheesh.

Weber State !* 13-5 16-10
North Dakota 11-7 14-14
Montana 10-7 15-11
Northern Colorado 10-8 16-11
Northern Arizona 10-8 13-16
Montana State 9-8 14-14
Portland State 9-9 14-13
Eastern Washington 9-9 14-15
Sacramento State 9-9 13-14
Idaho State 8-10 11-16
Southern Utah 0-18 1-26

 

[PlayerRep]

How do you figure that? UM is is sole possession of 3d. Both teams in front of them have 2 road games remaining. ND has UNC on the road. UM has Cats at home and 2 on the road. UM is 11-7. 10th place team is 8-10. UM is 2.5 from 1st and 2.5 from 10th. 1 team is between UM and the 1st place team. 6 teams are between UM and 10th.

Where do you come up with so many dumb comments?

Basic math. Weber has 13 wins and UM has 10, 3 games from first.

UM has 10 wins and 10th place ISU has 8 wins, that is 2 games from 10th.

I was taught that 2 is smaller than 3, hence UM is closer to 10th than 1st.

And yes, I realize that UM has the tie-breaker with ISU, so they would really be 9th.

After a quick look, it would seem that the odds of the Griz finishing first are pretty similar to them placing 8th and missing the tournament.

That's not how it's calculated. You have to take losses into account too. UM has 2 losses fewer than the 1st place team, and 3 fewer wins. That means the difference is 2.5. UM has 2 more wins than the 10th place team, and 3 fewer losses. Thus, the difference is 2.5. Just as I stated in my original post. I can't believe you don't know that both wins and losses have to be taken into account.

PR, how many games do the Griz need to win to catch Weber? Hint, it is not 2.5.
How many games does ISU have to win to catch UM? Once again, it is not 2.5.

I fully understand that UM has a game in hand, but it still leaves them 3 wins behind Weber and 2 wins ahead of ISU.

If they win on Monday, they will be closer to 1st then 10th, but they will still be just as close to Sac, EWU, and PSU, the 6th, 7th and 8th place teams.

You are an idiot. Let's see if you can another idiot to agree with you on this.

 

[Potomac Griz]

If they win on Monday, they will be closer to 1st then 10th, but they will still be just as close to Sac, EWU, and PSU, the 6th, 7th and 8th place teams.

What an absolutely ridiculous discussion to be having. The Griz have played fewer games than all other teams in the Big Sky except MSU. Fewer games played means fewer chances for wins. So your argument is ridiculous right from the start by comparing teams that haven't even played the same number of games.

Even when the Griz win big you are over here trying to emo up the thread. Enjoy the victory and the fact that the Griz are now looking like they have a very good chance of finishing 2nd or 3rd in league. Earlier in the season it didn't look nearly as promising.

I'll make you a deal... if they finish 10th in conference or hell...even if they don't make the Big Sky tournament, I'll buy you a brand new box of razors so you can get back to cutting yourself and crying in the corner. If they finish 2nd or 3rd you have to eat a happy meal and cheer the fuck up ok?

 

[grizindabox]

If they win on Monday, they will be closer to 1st then 10th, but they will still be just as close to Sac, EWU, and PSU, the 6th, 7th and 8th place teams.

What an absolutely ridiculous discussion to be having. The Griz have played fewer games than all other teams in the Big Sky except MSU. Fewer games played means fewer chances for wins. So your argument is ridiculous right from the start by comparing teams that haven't even played the same number of games.

Even when the Griz win big you are over here trying to emo up the thread. Enjoy the victory and the fact that the Griz are now looking like they have a very good chance of finishing 2nd or 3rd in league. Earlier in the season it didn't look nearly as promising.

I'll make you a deal... if they finish 10th in conference or hell...even if they don't make the Big Sky tournament, I'll buy you a brand new box of razors so you can get back to cutting yourself and crying in the corner. If they finish 2nd or 3rd you have to eat a happy meal and cheer the f*** up ok?

technically they can not finish in 10th, and if they win Monday, they can not finish in 9th either. But I am not sold that UM can sweep the NAU/Sac road trip, and if they don't it could make things interesting.

My entire point was that everyone was excited that Weber lost and UM has a chance to win the league, but they have just as good of a chance to finish 8th. Think about that!

Also, funny you did not mention 1st place in your little tirade.

 

[GrizLA]

If they win on Monday, they will be closer to 1st then 10th, but they will still be just as close to Sac, EWU, and PSU, the 6th, 7th and 8th place teams.

What an absolutely ridiculous discussion to be having. The Griz have played fewer games than all other teams in the Big Sky except MSU. Fewer games played means fewer chances for wins. So your argument is ridiculous right from the start by comparing teams that haven't even played the same number of games.

Even when the Griz win big you are over here trying to emo up the thread. Enjoy the victory and the fact that the Griz are now looking like they have a very good chance of finishing 2nd or 3rd in league. Earlier in the season it didn't look nearly as promising.

I'll make you a deal... if they finish 10th in conference or hell...even if they don't make the Big Sky tournament, I'll buy you a brand new box of razors so you can get back to cutting yourself and crying in the corner. If they finish 2nd or 3rd you have to eat a happy meal and cheer the f*** up ok?

Sounds like the Grizinbox is a glass half full, sort of person....

 

[Potomac Griz]

My entire point was that everyone was excited that Weber lost and UM has a chance to win the league, but they have just as good of a chance to finish 8th. Think about that!

Emo kid always looking on the bright side... :lol:

Also, funny you did not mention 1st place in your little tirade.

Nope, I didn't. There's a reason for that. I'll leave it to you to figure out why I didn't since you're the math major who figured out that the number 3 is greater than the number 2.

 

[grizindabox]

My entire point was that everyone was excited that Weber lost and UM has a chance to win the league, but they have just as good of a chance to finish 8th. Think about that!

Emo kid always looking on the bright side... :lol:

Also, funny you did not mention 1st place in your little tirade.

Nope, I didn't. There's a reason for that. I'll leave it to you to figure out why I didn't since you're the math major who figured out that the number 3 is greater than the number 2.

so you are saying I was right?

 

[Potomac Griz]

My entire point was that everyone was excited that Weber lost and UM has a chance to win the league, but they have just as good of a chance to finish 8th. Think about that!

Emo kid always looking on the bright side... :lol:

Also, funny you did not mention 1st place in your little tirade.

Nope, I didn't. There's a reason for that. I'll leave it to you to figure out why I didn't since you're the math major who figured out that the number 3 is greater than the number 2.

so you are saying I was right?

Nope. Not what I'm saying at all. Your statement that the Griz are "closer" to 10th than 1st is still incorrect for may reasons (most of which have been pointed out here by myself and others).

Kudos to you though for having a positive attitude for once. Now if you can turn that into at least a semi-positive attitude occasionally when things are going for the Griz we'll be making some progress on fixing your personality flaw!

 

[grizindabox]

My entire point was that everyone was excited that Weber lost and UM has a chance to win the league, but they have just as good of a chance to finish 8th. Think about that!

Emo kid always looking on the bright side... :lol:

Also, funny you did not mention 1st place in your little tirade.

Nope, I didn't. There's a reason for that. I'll leave it to you to figure out why I didn't since you're the math major who figured out that the number 3 is greater than the number 2.

so you are saying I was right?

Nope. Not what I'm saying at all.

Kudos to you though for having a positive attitude for once. Now if you can turn that into at least a semi-positive attitude occasionally when things are going for the Griz we'll be making some progress on fixing your personality flaw!

Funny, I never said the Griz would not make the playoffs, nor did I say the Griz could not host the tournament. Realistically I think the Griz win on Monday and split the last road trip which most likely means a 4 seed is the best the Griz can get.

 

[Potomac Griz]

Funny, I never said the Griz would not make the playoffs, nor did I say the Griz could not host the tournament. Realistically I think the Griz win on Monday and split the last road trip which most likely means a 4 seed is the best the Griz can get.

I never said you said the Griz would not make the tournament or that they couldn't host the tournament. My point is you need a bowl of cheerios and to lighten up. The Griz are peaking at the right time as always and it's nice that they are in the hunt for a good seed in the tournament still instead of just hoping to make it.

Oh, and you are still wrong on your original statement that they are "closer" to 10th than 1st due to the many reasons people have listed here. In fact you actually debunked your own argument by pointing out the Griz cannot finish 10th in conference.

technically they can not finish in 10th

So your argument is that they are closer to 10th than 1st, even though (using your own words) they technically cannot finish 10th but still could finish 1st?

Are we done here? :mrgreen:

 

[grizindabox]

 

[grizindabox]

Funny, I never said the Griz would not make the playoffs, nor did I say the Griz could not host the tournament. Realistically I think the Griz win on Monday and split the last road trip which most likely means a 4 seed is the best the Griz can get.

I never said you said the Griz would not make the tournament or that they couldn't host the tournament. My point is you need a bowl of cheerios and to lighten up. The Griz are peaking at the right time as always and it's nice that they are in the hunt for a good seed in the tournament still instead of just hoping to make it.

Oh, and you are still wrong on your original statement that they are "closer" to 10th than 1st due to the many reasons people have listed here. In fact you actually debunked your own argument by pointing out the Griz cannot finish 10th in conference.

technically they can not finish in 10th

So your argument is that they are closer to 10th than 1st, even though (using your own words) they technically cannot finish 10th but still could finish 1st?

Are we done here? :mrgreen:

But they could finish with the same record...

 

[Potomac Griz]

Funny, I never said the Griz would not make the playoffs, nor did I say the Griz could not host the tournament. Realistically I think the Griz win on Monday and split the last road trip which most likely means a 4 seed is the best the Griz can get.

I never said you said the Griz would not make the tournament or that they couldn't host the tournament. My point is you need a bowl of cheerios and to lighten up. The Griz are peaking at the right time as always and it's nice that they are in the hunt for a good seed in the tournament still instead of just hoping to make it.

Oh, and you are still wrong on your original statement that they are "closer" to 10th than 1st due to the many reasons people have listed here. In fact you actually debunked your own argument by pointing out the Griz cannot finish 10th in conference.

technically they can not finish in 10th

So your argument is that they are closer to 10th than 1st, even though (using your own words) they technically cannot finish 10th but still could finish 1st?

Are we done here? :mrgreen:

But they could finish with the same record...

So even now you're still standing by your argument? Since it's impossible for the Griz to finish 10th, yet still possible for them to finish 1st (using your own words), you are saying:

The Griz are closer to an impossible scenario (10th) than they are to a possible scenario (1st).

Seriously it's probably time for you to give up on your argument and pretend it never happened. :lol:

Though I am enjoying seeing you try to defend that above argument. It's entertaining at least. Especially since there are even more flaws in it than the ones that have been discussed here.