GRIZ reward the last scholarship to..........

[monteandmofan]

I personally feel that coach Tinkle knows what he is doing in signing Nick to a scholly. Whether it is Reader or someone else who is out, fact is Tinkle see's something great in Nick and feels he deserves it. I have seen him in practice and the scrimmage and feel he is more than capable of competing at this level. He improved dramatically over the year and does fit in well with Tinkle's plan. Gotta trust the coaching staff, they do know what they are doing, like said above they have seen him play all year against the other amazing players on this team. I say a big congrats to the Montana boy who worked his butt off to earn this! Not a lot of walk ons can say they actually earned a scholly. Congrats Nick you really do deserve this!

 

[Growler1]

Montana raised, Nick Emerson, of Columbia Falls. Congrats, Nick. :thumb:
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Good for Nick. I have really liked what I have seen from him so far. He looks to me to be the next Fasting or Sidensticker.

I was pretty sure we didn't have a scholarship left to give. Does this mean someone is leaving?

Oh, and a big raspberry to those of you who ridiculed my prediction last Fall when I predicted Nick would earn a scholly.

If his sister Katy married Justin Bigguns, her name would then be Katy Emerson-Bigguns.....

and you will always be a total POS Dill

And you will always be my bitch, jizzpacker1

 

[Grizfan-24]

It could be no one is leaving. It might be a case where a scholarship was pulled from someone on the condition that they have to produce in the classroom, on the floor and in the community. If, and when, they do the scholarship would be reinstated next year. That has happened before and could happen again.

Congratulations to Nick. I agree with maroonandsilver that the coaching staff knows Nick can play as they have seen him face to face against the players they have and they now have him for four years. He is a kid they can depend upon and he will contribute.

This is as much as I can gather is likely the case. Nick doesn't have to sign a NLI and thusly schools can only offer 13 NLI's but there is technically no limit to the number of schollies offered. He is free to walk and go anywhere else if Nick deems that to be the case. The NLI commits have a few limitations before their scholarship is revoked or pulled:

■Renders himself or herself ineligible for competition;
■Fradulently misrepresents any information on an application, letter of intent, or financial aid agreement;
■Engages in serious misconduct; or
■Voluntarily quits the team.

This may or may not be the case with Reader, who techinically could have had his scholly pulled by the above rules. But as the rule currently exists, because Emerson walked on he doesn't have to sign an NLI and thusly allows Tinkle to over offer schollies without violating the letter of the NCAA law. This is done in football all the time.

 

[cclarkblues]

I dont care if you love Emerson, the last post is spot on, trading emerson for Reader, if infact that is the case, would be an AWFUL trade-off...we go from having an athletic, 6'9"+ 5-player with a huge upside, to a walk-on that so far has played...in...a scrimmage...I couldn't agree more in that i haven't a clue why you would give him a scholarship without making him prove it with a year of playing time...but say Emerson CAN contribute this year..even if our wildest dreams, that contribution that he could maybe, possibly, hopefully make, wouldnt be a shade of what an athletic 6'9" starting 5 man would give us...
so all of these are "ifs"...but if thats how this all plays out, then wow is this a shitty trade-off...and who the f*** cares if he's from Montana?...Agreed...The university of montana should probably run their bball program a little more like the kentucky's and north carolina's of the world, not the western's of the world

It's not a trade if Reader can't pass his classes. In that case, we never had him.

 

[Gallatin Griz]

What temp said! :clap: And hearty congrats to Nick! :clap:

Wayne knows best in Wayne's world!

Go Griz!

Maul'em!

 

[Evizzerate]

After I watched the preseason games I thought Emerson was the most advanced of the new recruits. I don't think being from Montana has anything to do with it. He earned it, congrats to Nick.

 

[temp]

This is as much as I can gather is likely the case. Nick doesn't have to sign a NLI and thusly schools can only offer 13 NLI's but there is technically no limit to the number of schollies offered. He is free to walk and go anywhere else if Nick deems that to be the case. The NLI commits have a few limitations before their scholarship is revoked or pulled:

■Renders himself or herself ineligible for competition;
■Fradulently misrepresents any information on an application, letter of intent, or financial aid agreement;
■Engages in serious misconduct; or
■Voluntarily quits the team.

This may or may not be the case with Reader, who techinically could have had his scholly pulled by the above rules. But as the rule currently exists, because Emerson walked on he doesn't have to sign an NLI and thusly allows Tinkle to over offer schollies without violating the letter of the NCAA law. This is done in football all the time.

Not to get off topic but...You thoughts here are incorrect. The thing your refering to is when a player is signed after the signing period is over. It's not a national letter of intent, it is called something else that I can't recall at the moment. Anyways, you can add people through the summer and if you do that becomes the situation you are thinking of where the recruit is not bound to the school but the school is legally bound to give the scholarship, therefor giving the power to the recruit. I only know this because the mslacat had to educate me on the subject just last year.
There is a very hard limit on the number of scholarships you can give out. 13, and that is it, no back doors or sidestepping the limit.

 

[LakGriz]

Glad to see the C Falls kid get a scholly. Wasn't he on the GF Trib's super all-state team. His high school team was something like 43-4 his last 2 years.

NEXT: A SCHOLLY FOR THE EDWARDS KID AT GLACIER!!

 

[mtgrizrule]

Glad to see the C Falls kid get a scholly. Wasn't he on the GF Trib's super all-state team. His high school team was something like 43-4 his last 2 years.

NEXT: A SCHOLLY FOR THE EDWARDS KID AT GLACIER!!

Unless Edwards has improved a ton since last Mid June, he is nowhere close to having Div 1 game. He has size, solid hands (for a big), and good passer (when not pressured) from the post. He has the size to be a Div 1 player.

This next year, he has to develop some physicality, and some bite/attitude to his game. If he does not do those things, he will not be a D1 recruit. I think he would be better off going JC, and build his game there, or even prep school. He will definitely be offered scholarships at the lower levels. Right now he has Div 1 potential, and Div 2/NAIA game.

Thanks to the bigs, the GRIZ recruited this season, Tinkle will not be forced into offering a project "big" a scholarship. I hope he develops his game, and attitude the way he needs to do. I would love to see him be the next Montana raised big man. He has a long way to go though. It will be interesting to track him. Anyone know if he plans to play for a competitive level AAU travel team? If he does that, it would do him wonders, in measuring his game, and what he has to do to play Div 1 ball.

As for Emerson, I see a combination of Roger Fastings, and Michael Taylor in him. He has a lot of upside, and a high ceiling, how high is up to him. Realistically, I see him being a huge contributor his JR year. It would be nice, if that was sooner, though.

The PG, SG, SF positions are well stacked for the next 3 to 4 years, even after Cherry's departure.

 

[temp]

Glad to see the C Falls kid get a scholly. Wasn't he on the GF Trib's super all-state team. His high school team was something like 43-4 his last 2 years.

NEXT: A SCHOLLY FOR THE EDWARDS KID AT GLACIER!!

Unless Edwards has improved a ton since last Mid June, he is nowhere close to having Div 1 game. He has size, solid hands (for a big), and good passer (when not pressured) from the post. He has the size to be a Div 1 player.

This next year, he has to develop some physicality, and some bite/attitude to his game. If he does not do those things, he will not be a D1 recruit. I think he would be better off going JC, and build his game there, or even prep school. He will definitely be offered scholarships at the lower levels. Right now he has Div 1 potential, and Div 2/NAIA game.

Thanks to the bigs, the GRIZ recruited this season, Tinkle will not be forced into offering a project "big" a scholarship. I hope he develops his game, and attitude the way he needs to do. I would love to see him be the next Montana raised big man. He has a long way to go though. It will be interesting to track him. Anyone know if he plans to play for a competitive level AAU travel team? If he does that, it would do him wonders, in measuring his game, and what he has to do to play Div 1 ball.

As for Emerson, I see a combination of Roger Fastings, and Michael Taylor in him. He has a lot of upside, and a high ceiling, how high is up to him. Realistically, I see him being a huge contributor his JR year. It would be nice, if that was sooner, though.

The PG, SG, SF positions are well stacked for the next 3 to 4 years, even after Cherry's departure.

Can't say that i completely disagree with your assessment on Edwards but I do know you are wrong about him not being a D1 recruit. He already holds an offer from msu and I seen him at one of our games down in the comp seat area, so I would guess we are at least showing him some interest. I thought he had shown marked improvement from last HS season to this recent one, seemed like he was moving better and being more assertive. He is a guy to keep an eye on.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Glad to see the C Falls kid get a scholly. Wasn't he on the GF Trib's super all-state team. His high school team was something like 43-4 his last 2 years.

NEXT: A SCHOLLY FOR THE EDWARDS KID AT GLACIER!!

Unless Edwards has improved a ton since last Mid June, he is nowhere close to having Div 1 game. He has size, solid hands (for a big), and good passer (when not pressured) from the post. He has the size to be a Div 1 player.

This next year, he has to develop some physicality, and some bite/attitude to his game. If he does not do those things, he will not be a D1 recruit. I think he would be better off going JC, and build his game there, or even prep school. He will definitely be offered scholarships at the lower levels. Right now he has Div 1 potential, and Div 2/NAIA game.

Thanks to the bigs, the GRIZ recruited this season, Tinkle will not be forced into offering a project "big" a scholarship. I hope he develops his game, and attitude the way he needs to do. I would love to see him be the next Montana raised big man. He has a long way to go though. It will be interesting to track him. Anyone know if he plans to play for a competitive level AAU travel team? If he does that, it would do him wonders, in measuring his game, and what he has to do to play Div 1 ball.

As for Emerson, I see a combination of Roger Fastings, and Michael Taylor in him. He has a lot of upside, and a high ceiling, how high is up to him. Realistically, I see him being a huge contributor his JR year. It would be nice, if that was sooner, though.

The PG, SG, SF positions are well stacked for the next 3 to 4 years, even after Cherry's departure.

Can't say that i completely disagree with your assessment on Edwards but I do know you are wrong about him not being a D1 recruit. He already holds an offer from msu and I seen him at one of our games down in the comp seat area, so I would guess we are at least showing him some interest. I thought he had shown marked improvement from last HS season to this recent one, seemed like he was moving better and being more assertive. He is a guy to keep an eye on.

I have not seen him play since last june. I did not say he is not a div 1 recruit. I said his "game" is not yet div 1, but does have div 1 talent (potential, and size). (copied in paragraph below). I do hope your assessment is more spot on. Hard to dispute it, when you have obviously seen him play since I have. Your report is very encouraging to hear. It does not surprise the Cats are looking at him, though. He is big, and they do not have the big talent the GRIZ do. They reached for the other Edwards kid, a few years ago. I thought he would develop nicely too, though. He let them down though. I hope for a much better outcome for the younger Edwards though. He is a good kid.

This next year, he has to develop some physicality, and some bite/attitude to his game. If he does not do those things, he will not be a D1 recruit. I think he would be better off going JC, and build his game there, or even prep school. He will definitely be offered scholarships at the lower levels. Right now he has Div 1 potential, and Div 2/NAIA game.

 

[temp]

Sorry for my confusion. I thought when you said " This next year, he has to develop some physicality, and some bite/attitude to his game. If he does not do those things, he will not be a D1 recruit" was the same thing as saying he is not currently a D1 recruit. My bad.

 

[BelierPeaux]

Glad to see the C Falls kid get a scholly. Wasn't he on the GF Trib's super all-state team. His high school team was something like 43-4 his last 2 years.

NEXT: A SCHOLLY FOR THE EDWARDS KID AT GLACIER!!

Unless Edwards has improved a ton since last Mid June, he is nowhere close to having Div 1 game. He has size, solid hands (for a big), and good passer (when not pressured) from the post. He has the size to be a Div 1 player.

This next year, he has to develop some physicality, and some bite/attitude to his game. If he does not do those things, he will not be a D1 recruit. I think he would be better off going JC, and build his game there, or even prep school. He will definitely be offered scholarships at the lower levels. Right now he has Div 1 potential, and Div 2/NAIA game.

Thanks to the bigs, the GRIZ recruited this season, Tinkle will not be forced into offering a project "big" a scholarship. I hope he develops his game, and attitude the way he needs to do. I would love to see him be the next Montana raised big man. He has a long way to go though. It will be interesting to track him. Anyone know if he plans to play for a competitive level AAU travel team? If he does that, it would do him wonders, in measuring his game, and what he has to do to play Div 1 ball.

As for Emerson, I see a combination of Roger Fastings, and Michael Taylor in him. He has a lot of upside, and a high ceiling, how high is up to him. Realistically, I see him being a huge contributor his JR year. It would be nice, if that was sooner, though.

The PG, SG, SF positions are well stacked for the next 3 to 4 years, even after Cherry's departure.

I TOTALLY forgot about Michael Taylor. Man did we miss him two seasons ago.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Sorry for my confusion. I thought when you said " This next year, he has to develop some physicality, and some bite/attitude to his game. If he does not do those things, he will not be a D1 recruit" was the same thing as saying he is not currently a D1 recruit. My bad.

No apology needed. I read through quickly, and interpret things differently, until someone has me reread it, or explains what they really meant. That is the beauty of writing, we all have a different interpretations. :thumb:

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

I didn't know that if MSU had offered to a certain bb player that that automatically qualifies that player as Division I material; in fact, it doesn't really mean that that player qualifies for Division II either, yet alone to the NAIA level either. This considering just how they've been the last couple years since Durham, huh, retired, so to speak. I mean, come on dudes, this is MSU we're talkin' about here, right?

 

[casewinter13]

Those sure are some fun, cute-sy comments temp, too bad theyre about half correct, wise ass...first off, Reader sat the bench due to grades, not skill level or production...and if you attempt to argue that if he was eligible next year that he wouldn't be our most productive 5, at least to start off if Marko didn't pass him up, then youre not figuratively retarded, you're actually retarded...

Next, the point of my post wasn't to say Emerson cant play, it was that the trade-off is a shitty one...Hard to argue that point considering we need an athletic and active 5 a HELL of a lot more than we need another 6'5" combo guard...I thought i made all of that pretty clear, im truly sorry that fairly simple point eluded you...

Next, Mr. Emerson is a walk-on...it means they didnt think enough to offer a scholarship to him out of hs...then, this year, he waits for a scholarship to open up due to losing a player to give him one...he wasn't getting one without us losing a player, so Tinkle wasn't exactly in a huge hurry to give him one...

so ill wrap up my entire point so you can follow along...and take your time, there's no rush in reading this...The trade-off sucks! If it's reader, a likely starter at the 5 position, for emerson, a likely deep bench player who walked on last year, then the trade-off sucks! Pretty simple.

I still think the griz are gonna be a very good team, even better than this year, im pumped for next season, but that just isn't a good trade-off

 

[temp]

The ego is a fragile thing. That being the case I am sure it became hard for you to read the earlier post where I proved your ignorance. If you had you would have read where I eluded to Reader's academic issues and never once mentioned his on-court skills. The fact remains that he DID NOT PLAY and played very little prior to being suspeneded. Hard to dominate when you are not granted playing time, or out-right suspeneded.

How you continue to call Emerson getting a scholarship a "trade off" is beyond me. In his interview with KECI, Emerson said he was told "in the spring" he would get a scholarship and we know Tinkle was not in town when the news broke, so it is safe to say that the actual signing took place some time before the news broke. He was likely promised it or signed a couple weeks ago. There is no websites dedicated to walk-ons like there is JUCO kids so keeping it quite would not be difficult. Perhaps they did so in order to let Reader get his affairs in order, notify anyone he wanted, or look for another team before they went public and questions were asked. (We still in fact don't know who is leaving, it might not even be Reader) In our seniors we lost 1 center, 1 small forward and 2 guards. Before the news of Emerson broke we knew we signed 2 centers (one being a JC kid when we thought we didn't need a center) 1 Power forward and 1 3/4 swing player. At 6'5" Emerson is the shortest player we signed, so with those things being said how is it that Nick, a guard, was the player "traded" for Reader, a center? Wouldn't it be more likely that Kovecivic was the one a "trade-off" was made for?

Emerson not getting a offer out of high school had ZERO to do with his talent or potential. He didn't make a big-time name for himself until his senior year, months after the November signing period when most HS kids sign. He did not play AAU and he is from a small town that is a couple hours from the nearest interstate. For a recruit like that, exposure is a big problem and because of that lack of exposure he did not have any competing D1 offers. That being the situation coach Tinkle wisely did not pay for what he could get for free. He offered him a spot as a walk-on, he accepted the challenge, he proved his worth and was rewarded for it.

I will continue to provide facts and you can continue to call me names if you would like.

 

[THE BETCH]

Seems to me that Tinks already made the "tradeoff" when he signed MK. Emerson reminds me a little of Criswell, only taller, and we all know how that walk-on worked out. Good move by the
staff. Make us proud Nick.

 

[monteandmofan]

Kudos to "temp" for speaking the truth. I also watched the news and it was made clear by Emerson that the scholarship was promised earlier, the signing done earlier. It seems to me that casewinter just is not a fan of Emerson for whatever reason. Temp is right in that he did not peak until his senior year and all of the griz scholarships for that year had been awarded in the fall. I think tinkle knew what he was doing in asking Emerson to walk on, they don't just ask anyone to walk on. He saw the potential and went for it. Congrats to Mr. Emerson and I really really hope is silences the nay-sayers!