Griz/Poly Game Analysis

[PlayerRep]

Oh and a couple have commented on the improbable 48 yard FG comment.....I know all I need to know about your football knowledge if you think 48 yard Field Goals are gimmies, especially by freshman kickers, let alone a wet field and ball. Ask any kicker in college at any level if that kick is a gimme or is probable and you'll have your answer.

It's not your improbable FG for the win comment that's the issue. It's your overall perception of events. Sure the Griz O played poorly but the Poly team had a horrible 4th quarter full of mistakes yet they eventually won the game. The Griz couldn't close Poly out even tough they had everything go their way, an INT that was fumbled back to the Griz, a decision to go for it on 4th and 3 instead of
kicking the easy FG, a punt mistakenly fielded on the 2 yard line and a killer roughing the passer penalty that extended a Griz drive. Fans have a tendency to explain things away like " our O played horrible yet we were still in the game at the end and that's a moral victory". Poly fought thru more and got the victory. On the road no less. That's the issue. Not that BG had a poor game and the Griz showed resolve by keeping it close. Sure a win at Liberty next week will make all things right. But today, it's about which team wanted it more. That team was Poly....

Like I said, CV, you don't have a clue about the game of football. Hookedongriz is way ahead of you. Let's hear you lay out all the mistakes CP made, and then why don't you acknowledge all the nice plays CP made.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Oh and a couple have commented on the improbable 48 yard FG comment.....I know all I need to know about your football knowledge if you think 48 yard Field Goals are gimmies, especially by freshman kickers, let alone a wet field and ball. Ask any kicker in college at any level if that kick is a gimme or is probable and you'll have your answer.

It's not your improbable FG for the win comment that's the issue. It's your overall perception of events. Sure the Griz O played poorly but the Poly team had a horrible 4th quarter full of mistakes yet they eventually won the game. The Griz couldn't close Poly out even tough they had everything go their way, an INT that was fumbled back to the Griz, a decision to go for it on 4th and 3 instead of
kicking the easy FG, a punt mistakenly fielded on the 2 yard line and a killer roughing the passer penalty that extended a Griz drive. Fans have a tendency to explain things away like " our O played horrible yet we were still in the game at the end and that's a moral victory". Poly fought thru more and got the victory. On the road no less. That's the issue. Not that BG had a poor game and the Griz showed resolve by keeping it close. Sure a win at Liberty next week will make all things right. But today, it's about which team wanted it more. That team was Poly....

Like I said, CV, you don't have a clue about the game of football. Hookedongriz is way ahead of you. Let's hear you lay out all the mistakes CP made, and then why don't you acknowledge all the nice plays CP made.

Jeez....big fella cool down. I think that I laid out the Poly mistakes in the fourth quarter pretty well. Poly fought thru more and got the victory. That's the bottom line. That's not like you to divert attention from the real issue. What's up? BTW my rugby career has nothing to do with it. Just like your FB career.....

 

[PlayerRep]

Oh and a couple have commented on the improbable 48 yard FG comment.....I know all I need to know about your football knowledge if you think 48 yard Field Goals are gimmies, especially by freshman kickers, let alone a wet field and ball. Ask any kicker in college at any level if that kick is a gimme or is probable and you'll have your answer.

It's not your improbable FG for the win comment that's the issue. It's your overall perception of events. Sure the Griz O played poorly but the Poly team had a horrible 4th quarter full of mistakes yet they eventually won the game. The Griz couldn't close Poly out even tough they had everything go their way, an INT that was fumbled back to the Griz, a decision to go for it on 4th and 3 instead of
kicking the easy FG, a punt mistakenly fielded on the 2 yard line and a killer roughing the passer penalty that extended a Griz drive. Fans have a tendency to explain things away like " our O played horrible yet we were still in the game at the end and that's a moral victory". Poly fought thru more and got the victory. On the road no less. That's the issue. Not that BG had a poor game and the Griz showed resolve by keeping it close. Sure a win at Liberty next week will make all things right. But today, it's about which team wanted it more. That team was Poly....

Like I said, CV, you don't have a clue about the game of football. Hookedongriz is way ahead of you. Let's hear you lay out all the mistakes CP made, and then why don't you acknowledge all the nice plays CP made.

Jeez....big fella cool down. I think that I laid out the Poly mistakes in the fourth quarter pretty well. Poly fought thru more and got the victory. That's the bottom line. That's not like you to divert attention from the real issue. What's up? BTW my rugby career has nothing to do with it. Just like your FB career.....

No CV, you didn't lay out anything. Stop being so negative and out to lunch. Jesus, even I don't believe you're that stupid about football. My football career has alot to do with understanding the game. You're football career must not have progressed past high school. It shows.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

C'mon PR. Your career and my career are meaningless in this situation and you know it. And I am not being negative. I supported the hiring of Stitt and you didn't. I still think things will work out for him as the Griz HC. In this Griz home game however, Poly played like they wanted it more and they fought thru much more 4th quarter adversity to get the win. Re-read my previous posts for the list of Poly's 4th quarter setbacks. You should be commending them for their resolve instead of trying to explain away a Griz loss....

 

[The.Real.2506]

Poly dropped back 7 and 8 all game. 4 guys back about 8 yards and the corners and safeties another 8. Make Montana dink and dunk but have to make perfect throws to go down field. Stitt said he would know exactly what the opposition was going to do by the 2nd half...Poly did not disguise it and Montana still could not move the ball. Kept everything in front of them and used their speed to counter any run plays that Montana had. This O-Line will hold Montana back all year because they can not block. I can't count how many guys they just did not see to block in the game.

Kind of lost in that 4th and inches at the end when the Griz were flagged for two men in motion is that it wasn't a dead ball foul and the result of the play (Gamboa for some reason was the ball carrier) was a stop short of the line to gain. That's why CP declined the penalty and took over right there. If the Griz had made the needed inches, CP would have to accept the penalty, it would have been 4th and 5, and we could have coffin corner punted. Even a touchback punt there would have run a few more seconds and made CP have to cover more ground.

The ultimate call was illegal shift, which apparently isn't a dead ball foul, like false start.

If you knew anything about the game you would have known that, a false start stops the play immediately, an illegal shift does not, the play runs there for it can be declined.

 

[rimrockgriz]

The honeymoon is over. Our unstoppable offense proved to be very stoppable tonight. We got a dose of our own medicine as Poly also used a no-huddle offense, and dominated the TOP, which had the effect of accomplishing what Stitt tries to accomplish with his offense....... wear down the defense.

But it wasn't the defense that cost us the game. Our offense looked like it did in the first fall scrimmage.....totally confused. It was a horror show of dropped passes, mis-communication between Gus and his receivers, and very poorly thrown balls by Gus. To make matters worse, our running game was non-existent, except for the long Nuygen run. Our O-line just can not block for the running game.

Gus showed tonight that he is very inconsistent throwing the rock, and is inaccurate on many throws. And our receivers continue to drop easy catches, which really hurts this control-type passing game.

We are also turning the ball over way too often. Bobby Hauck would be blowing a head gasket if his team turned the ball over as much as we have done so far this season.

As I predicted, our special teams are costing us....... poor punts......poor KO coverage.....missed FGs.

And, the center snaps continue to be very shaky, as I stated before the season started. Gus saved at least 5-6 disasters on poor snaps. It will cost us in future games, as you will see. Write it down.

Not sure Gus is the answer. I would like to see what our back-up can do.

Yes, we came very close to being 2-0. But we also came very close to being 0-2!

There's a pile to discuss here. I'll comment on special teams. Remove #20 from the punt return team. It was discussed in detail last year and in the off season to death.... A novice can see that our punt return is a liability. Instead of being a weapon it looks like a horror movie... :egriz:

I think it's funny to watch the Acid Spewers like yourself completely mis-analyze the situation. Jeez, learn something about the game of football before you post again.

Seriously P.R. ? The comment is similar to Mick Delaney commenting on the air about the undersized slot back playing a large role on one of the interceptions.( Mick used the word "undersized") Ill keep the name and number out so you don't have a cow on the holiday. Smurfs cause many problems, schematically and physically. I'm done when decision making is added the equation. If you are at the ten yard line or out, you catch the football on punt return. He also seems to lack depth perception. Look his sloppy footwork as the ball descends... :egriz:

 

[zirge]

May as well throw in towel on this season...there is nowhere to go but down from here. Kiss the conference championship goodbye and playoffs are completely out of the question. Hope we have some good recruits coming in for next season.

Ha Ha, nice sarcasm. You have to admit, when a team is rushing 3and you can't run, that is something to be concerned about. I just hate Poly, that triple option is a beast and I really thought the Griz would win because of the offense, something that Montana did not have last year. Lots of football to be played but it does not mean one can not comment on the game that was just played......

great thread about last nights game....good input from alanta griz 1, jodcon and putter.....as diligent fans we should evaluate each game as if it counts towards the end goal......to objectively see our particular strengths and weaknesses which could lead to suggestions that could ultimately create adjustments
posters looking at this as being negative are not seeing the value of astute observation and giving others a right to post constructive thoughts
we do not all have to agree to add productivity

You are an Acid Spewer. Don't recall anything positive you have ever said about anything or anybody.

more eyes on the game the better, no two people are alike, we learn from each other, everything counts which equals the sum............yes, including you statement directed at me
it was a tough loss, with 1:17 left, ball on the 32 and the defense playing very well......all the more reason to give people this opportunity to express their observations and reasons.
thank you for your contribution