GRIZ Playoff chances....

[HelenaHandBasket]

My point was if NAU gets in over UM, it will have less to do with being #9 last week and more to do with winning at SUU the last weekend.

Okay gotcha, sorry for being confused. Yes valid point indeed. So an 8-3 NAU team would have quality wins over ISU and SUU, and be ranked, and have a better strength of schedule than us. So even though Griz beat them I can see where the committee will weigh all of this and possibly leave us hanging. If they take 4 teams it's a moot point. If they only take 3 and it's between us and NAU that's where I'm saying it's not automatic...like everyone else seems to claim. What do you think

I think they go NAU over the Griz if both are 8-3. TBH, I don't think they get the nod over any possible 8-3 BSC team. It would seem SUU, Weber, and NAU would all be ahead of them with 8 wins.

As crazy as that sounds, I am with you. In the past, an 8-3 Griz team would be in automatically but this year is definitely different, and I don't think folks should think it would be automatic. It's not that cut and dry this year.

So it makes me want to vomit just to say it but we have to be Cats fans this weekend

I see zero chance the Cats win at NAU.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

If anyone thinks a 8-3 griz team with a loss to wash, ranked Weber and ranked EWU doesn’t get in...then they are higher than Denver. Only games are lost were games we were not favored in. EWU has lost games they were not favored in. No way EWu gets in before us if we are 8-3 and they are 7-4.

I don't think EWU gets in even if they win out. 7-4 won't cut it for a BSC team.

 

[George Ferguson]

IF the Griz finish 8-3 and are inside the Top 25 in the Stats and NCAA Coaches Polls, they WILL get in. The Griz need help THIS WEEK, especially with the coaches poll. UND needs to beat Eastern. The selection committee will not leave Montana out if it's nationally ranked, 8-3, and winning six of its last seven games. NAU losing to Southern Utah the last week wouldn't hurt either.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

NAU losing to Southern Utah the last week wouldn't hurt either.

True, but SUU winning the BSC opens the possibility of the Griz travelling to Cedar City for the first round.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

IF the Griz finish 8-3 and are inside the Top 25 in the Stats and NCAA Coaches Polls, they WILL get in. The Griz need help THIS WEEK, especially with the coaches poll. UND needs to beat Eastern. The selection committee will not leave Montana out if it's nationally ranked, 8-3, and winning six of its last seven games. NAU losing to Southern Utah the last week wouldn't hurt either.

Wouldn’t we want NAU to lose to the cats and then beat Southern Utah? Resume, quality win, and all that jazz

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

IF the Griz finish 8-3 and are inside the Top 25 in the Stats and NCAA Coaches Polls, they WILL get in. The Griz need help THIS WEEK, especially with the coaches poll. UND needs to beat Eastern. The selection committee will not leave Montana out if it's nationally ranked, 8-3, and winning six of its last seven games. NAU losing to Southern Utah the last week wouldn't hurt either.

Wouldn’t we want NAU to lose to the cats and then beat Southern Utah? Resume, quality win, and all that jazz

Is beating a team that loses at home to MSU a quality win for the Griz?

 

[HookedonGriz]

IF the Griz finish 8-3 and are inside the Top 25 in the Stats and NCAA Coaches Polls, they WILL get in. The Griz need help THIS WEEK, especially with the coaches poll. UND needs to beat Eastern. The selection committee will not leave Montana out if it's nationally ranked, 8-3, and winning six of its last seven games. NAU losing to Southern Utah the last week wouldn't hurt either.

Need NAU to go 7-4 IMO whether it's a loss to cats or SUU. An NAU who is 8-3 and a Griz who is 8-3 is a cook flip for the committee. They'd be forced to leave one at home or take a 4th Big Sky team. If forced to leave one at home that makes me nervous. Not automatic is all I'm saying.

 

[AZGrizFan]

We are definitely not in at 7-4

We are not definitely in at 8-3 which I know is shocking. Craig Haley on his recent podcast said there isn't enough room for both UM and EWU this year from the big sky because of that log jam ahead of us. So essentially he was saying that the committee will be more apt to choose a 7-4 EWU team over a 8-3 Griz team based on strength of schedule and the EWU heads up win over us.

I know this sucks to hear and usually 8-3 is automatic, but too many other strange variables at play. We need to hope for an EWU loss or for the wheels to come off of NAU.

I think there is about 0.00% chance of this happening. They're saying losing to NDSU by 30 is better than beating Savannah St. by 30? Fuck, with that logic MSU should be a lock for the playoffs. As should Indiana State and Missouri State.

 

[HookedonGriz]

We are definitely not in at 7-4

We are not definitely in at 8-3 which I know is shocking. Craig Haley on his recent podcast said there isn't enough room for both UM and EWU this year from the big sky because of that log jam ahead of us. So essentially he was saying that the committee will be more apt to choose a 7-4 EWU team over a 8-3 Griz team based on strength of schedule and the EWU heads up win over us.

I know this sucks to hear and usually 8-3 is automatic, but too many other strange variables at play. We need to hope for an EWU loss or for the wheels to come off of NAU.

I think there is about 0.00% chance of this happening. They're saying losing to NDSU by 30 is better than beating Savannah St. by 30? f***, with that logic MSU should be a lock for the playoffs. As should Indiana State and Missouri State.

I thought it sounded crazy too, but you may recall when the committee took a 6-5 Western Illinois team over many 7 win and 8 win teams a couple years ago so it's not unprecedented

However that one doesn't worry me as much as an 8-3 NAU team. Plus UND is going to knock eastern out of the playoffs discussion anyway this Saturday

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Craig Haley on his recent podcast said there isn't enough room for both UM and EWU this year from the big sky because of that log jam ahead of us. So essentially he was saying that the committee will be more apt to choose a 7-4 EWU team over a 8-3 Griz team based on strength of schedule and the EWU heads up win over us.

Haley is an asshat. He says that NAU before UM if both are 8-3 even though the Griz beat NAU, and then says a 7-4 EWU team before an 8-3 UM team because they beat them. For the record, I don't think he is necessarily wrong about NAU, but his take on EWU if efff'n stupid.

 

[IdaGriz01]

... However that one doesn't worry me as much as an 8-3 NAU team. Plus UND is going to knock eastern out of the playoffs discussion anyway this Saturday

Because they won't have Gubrud, you mean? You haven't been keeping up.

According to some over there, the best QB at EWU has been sitting on the bench all this time. :lol:

 

[jodcon]

... However that one doesn't worry me as much as an 8-3 NAU team. Plus UND is going to knock eastern out of the playoffs discussion anyway this Saturday

Because they won't have Gubrud, you mean? You haven't been keeping up.

According to some over there, the best QB at EWU has been sitting on the bench all this time. :lol:

Yeah but he's not on billboards, that's the important thing over there.

 

[IdaGriz01]

... However that one doesn't worry me as much as an 8-3 NAU team. Plus UND is going to knock eastern out of the playoffs discussion anyway this Saturday

Because they won't have Gubrud, you mean? You haven't been keeping up.

According to some over there, the best QB at EWU has been sitting on the bench all this time. :lol:

Yeah but he's not on billboards, that's the important thing over there.

Damn! Forgot that part. :?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Griz gotta win out.

If we do, the stars will align. I mean, the dollar signs will align. If we lose to either of these jokers, we do not deserve to be in the playoffs. Of course, we will deserve to be in the playoffs more than somebody who gets in. Whatever. There's more to life than winning and losing.

 

[jodcon]

There's more to life than winning and losing.

That quote may have single-handedly put this thread into 17 page mode.

 

[Paytonlives]

There's more to life than winning and losing.

Like this two items are like more important....
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsyKQWilFAQ[/youtube]

 

[HookedonGriz]

... However that one doesn't worry me as much as an 8-3 NAU team. Plus UND is going to knock eastern out of the playoffs discussion anyway this Saturday

Because they won't have Gubrud, you mean? You haven't been keeping up.

According to some over there, the best QB at EWU has been sitting on the bench all this time. :lol:

Yeah but he's not on billboards, that's the important thing over there.

Damn! Forgot that part. :?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think UND run game finally gets going and they shut down the new QB, Barriere. Plus they are on a 2 game losing streak, on the road, and locker room drama. UND by 10

 

[HookedonGriz]

Craig Haley on his recent podcast said there isn't enough room for both UM and EWU this year from the big sky because of that log jam ahead of us. So essentially he was saying that the committee will be more apt to choose a 7-4 EWU team over a 8-3 Griz team based on strength of schedule and the EWU heads up win over us.

Haley is an asshat. He says that NAU before UM if both are 8-3 even though the Griz beat NAU, and then says a 7-4 EWU team before an 8-3 UM team because they beat them. For the record, I don't think he is necessarily wrong about NAU, but his take on EWU if efff'n stupid.

Agreed. Thought the EWU part was a head scratcher. I gave it some thought and see how the committee could try to talk themselves into it based on SOS and heads up play but I don't think they could do it. NAU scenario scares me more

 

[Mavman]

Best thing for all is for cats to lose out go 4-4 in conference! It gives them all winter to discuss trajectory and how they won twice as many conference games this year! May even get Choate an extension
#ownaquarterofthesky

 

[kemajic]

So an 8-3 NAU team would have quality wins over ISU and SUU, and be ranked, and have a better strength of schedule than us.

A win over ISU (4-6 with 3 DI wins) is a quality win?