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GRIZ/NO. CO

mtgrizrule said:
One more thing. BTW, they are now running alot of plays to free Stauds up from the perimeter, and they look for him. Once again, enjoy his perimeter game while you can. Perimeter shooters like him are few and far between here. I have seen alot of college basketball over the years, and his jumper ranks right up there with the best I have seen. Better yet, he very seldom takes a bad shot and does not have a gunners mentality. He does this all within the offensive design. :thumb:

I challenge anyone to find a shooter like him that plays with this kind of discipline within the offense. The only 1 I can think of off the top of my head was Steve Alford quite a long time ago. Riddick was a great shooter but he had a gunners mentality more often than not. No I am not saying Stauds is an all american or anything like that. Just that a shooter this good is a rarity these days, even moreso in the Big Sky Conference. :thumb:


Steve Sir???
 
Just wanted to point out that a Griz win over PSU doesn't guarantee the 4th spot.

If the Griz win, ISU beats NAU, and WSU loses to SAC - that would put a 3-way tie between WSU, ISU and UM for 3rd. Since WSU swept UM, that puts WSU 3rd, ISU 4th, and UM 5th.

Griz will either be hosting ISU, or travelling to ISU or WSU.


PSU, NAU and WSU have locked up 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectively.

EWU, UNC and SAC will finish 7th, 8th and 9th respectively.
 
DoctorBBall said:
mtgrizrule said:
One more thing. BTW, they are now running alot of plays to free Stauds up from the perimeter, and they look for him. Once again, enjoy his perimeter game while you can. Perimeter shooters like him are few and far between here. I have seen alot of college basketball over the years, and his jumper ranks right up there with the best I have seen. Better yet, he very seldom takes a bad shot and does not have a gunners mentality. He does this all within the offensive design. :thumb:

I challenge anyone to find a shooter like him that plays with this kind of discipline within the offense. The only 1 I can think of off the top of my head was Steve Alford quite a long time ago. Riddick was a great shooter but he had a gunners mentality more often than not. No I am not saying Stauds is an all american or anything like that. Just that a shooter this good is a rarity these days, even moreso in the Big Sky Conference. :thumb:


Steve Sir???

Steve Sir was a gunner. A pretty good one though. Only two things happened when he got the ball: a shot or a turnover.

Steve Sir didn't add value to any other phase of the game besides shooting the three.
 
As for Steven Sir, I did not see him play enough to make a fair evaluation. The few times I seen him play though, he contributed very little other than the 3.

Staudacher though only shoots within the offense and takes open shots for the most part. He also is a very good passer and above average defender. What makes him so unique is most shooters will shoot without conscience and even sacrifice team play to boost their stats. Many coaches will give them the green light to do it too because a shooter is so good. As a coach, I would very tempted to get this kid 20 shots a night. He averages double figures in BSC conference play on about 8 to 10 shots per game though. I am guessing the next 2 years the GRIZ will find him more shots per game as they lose the likes of Martin, Strait, and Hasquet. The scoring roles of Rundles and Staudacher will more than likely have to increase some. Then again, redshirts McGillis, Taylor, and Selvig should all be solid scorers too.

Either way, Staudacher is a joy to watch and we are lucky to have such a great shooter and even better person here. Also to note, when he was getting 30 plus minutes per game at seasons start I was questioning why when we had so many others to share those minutes. Every game I watch Staudacher now, I admit now Tinks hit the nail on the head with him. I was wrong for questioning his minutes. Wayne was right.
 
Hopefully, Martin will get well. He got sick on the roadtrip last week, and still wasn't feeling well as of last night. Same thing Hasquett and Strait had.
 
re:Stever Kerr

Kerr has a NCAA season 3 point % record of 57.3 % ( min. 100 made)

The career % record ...(for 200 made with 1.5 made per game)
is 49.7 %
Tony Bennet Wis Green Bay 1989-92

Career best % record with 300 made is 45.5 % Shawn Respert
Michigan.

Most threes in a game took 27 ..wow (made 9)
Most made in a game 15 (took 25 attempts)


The way Stauds is selective..he is never going to go in the
records books for total number of 3's..But I would not count him out of getting those ncaa % records.

when I was looking this up..i saw Pete Maravich season average record..44.5 He had 28 career games OVER 50 points !! wow!
 
PlayerRep said:
Hopefully, Martin will get well. He got sick on the roadtrip last week, and still wasn't feeling well as of last night. Same thing Hasquett and Strait had.

This Saturday against Portland State is SR night. I have a feeling nothing will keep Martin off that court. Rather it be for 5 minutes or 40 minutes, I expect to see Martin to take his feisty play and attitude to an all time high for himself. If healthy, I will not be surprised to see him be firing on all cylinders. I am hoping he is healthy, it will be a funner game to watch with him being healthy. How fitting would it be for him to hit the game winning shot? I would love it.

As for being sick, I struggled with this crap for 4 weeks. I have a desk job, and it took away from my work. Anyone expecting any player to perform to standards with it is out of their mind.

GO GRIZ!!!!!!!
 
AtHomeInTheDahlbergDen said:
mporter said:
AtHomeInTheDahlbergDen said:
win clinches spot in tourney, right?

Book your travel to Portland, OR.

:-)

Already planning to be there for a couple nights.

AThome, where in the hell have you been? Some of us here miss your basketball posts. Are the GRIZ frustrating you to the point of not knowing what to think or post? Get back in the game kid. :thumb:
 
I was looking at the griz record for the year and noticed they were 7-3 in the past 10 conference games. I also noticed that with the exception of the cat game in bozeman, we had a chance to win every game. I have not seen enough games to make a judgement on Tinkle's coaching style or his coaching ability, but that speaks pretty well of his coaching. You want a chance to win every game, and you want to get better as the year goes on and playing your best ball come tournament time.
 
WashGriz said:
re:Stever Kerr

Kerr has a NCAA season 3 point % record of 57.3 % ( min. 100 made)

The career % record ...(for 200 made with 1.5 made per game)
is 49.7 %
Tony Bennet Wis Green Bay 1989-92

Career best % record with 300 made is 45.5 % Shawn Respert
Michigan.

Most threes in a game took 27 ..wow (made 9)
Most made in a game 15 (took 25 attempts)


The way Stauds is selective..he is never going to go in the
records books for total number of 3's..But I would not count him out of getting those ncaa % records.

when I was looking this up..i saw Pete Maravich season average record..44.5 He had 28 career games OVER 50 points !! wow!
Speaking of kerr... if someone by the grace of God has in their possession a Steve Kerr jersey, I would love to take it off your hands.
 
http://www.google.com/products?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBS_enUS234US234&q=Steve+Kerr+Jersey&um=1

U'd have to be a huge Steve Kerr fan to pay these prices
 
I remember Respert, Bennett, and Kerr. For the most part Bennett and Kerr had very good shot selection, that which I would not classify as "gunners", more like "assasins".

My Definition:
Gunner- can shoot at anytime for any reason in hopes to hitting the target. When on is deadly, yet when off can take away from team effectiveness.

Assasin- Picks his/her shot wisely, usually the shot is uncontested, and more often than not is on target. When he/she misses it is still on target, just not a bullseye.

Kerr I seen play alot, and if I recall corrrectly he was very selective, yet deadly. Bennett, I only seen a few times, but do remember him being a very good passer, leader, and shooter. He would be given the green light when his team was struggling, yet played within the team game.

Respert was very deadly, and on his game more often than not. I remember many great games by him. However, on the other end of the spectrum was his desire to find his shot again when it was not there. I seen him shoot Mighigan State out of as many games as he did in them. He was either a 7 for 10 guy or a 2 or 3 out of 10 guy.

It is hard to determine which kind of player a team prefers. I honestly feel it depends on any given team. If the surrounding cast is there, I would like a very selective shooter. If there is not much of surrounding cast, a gunners mentality may be a better fit. That is why I think Respert would have been extremely frustrating to coach or play with, Michigan State always had a good supporting cast. I think Respert's shot attempts were a little too high for my liking as a coach.

Then again, all this is just my opinion and my preference as a coach as for type of player or players I like to coach. The Kerr and Staudacher types are my preference alone. It would be difficult for me as a coach to give that many shots per game to any one player regardless if he is on or not. If on, keep feeding him if rest of the team is struggling. If off, have him contribute in other ways to the team and try getting teammates involved.

As for Staudacher, I feel 10 to 15 attempts per game is ideal. When one player is getting more than that it is hard to keep the other teammates interested and involved. Matt Martin has learned that in his 4 years, and in turn has been much more effective this year. Of late he has been in a slump from 3, yet he is scoring more inside 3, and creating more often for his teammates.

I have seen enough of Staudacher to know if he stays healthy that he will go down as the best GRIZ perimeter shooter ever. His shot is that that all coaches at all levels would love to teach younger players to shoot like. :thumb:
 
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