Griz hoops brings in bright recruits

[IntuitiveGriz]

For the Griz to succeed like they want to (become a household named mid-major that consistently wins a game or two in the NCAA's), it's imperative for our guards (who are already great drivers) to be great shooters. Let the work begin...

PS...Bigs hit the weights! Fill out those uniforms...like the kids at the big schools do.

Disclaimer -- maybe I don't know what I am talking about, :lol: , but that is what I feel. Anyone agree, disagree?

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Q: What does GB1 use for birth control?

A: His personality.

Oh, wait, that's attorneys. Sorry.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

...a 40 watt bulb in a 100 watt world..."

 

[bigtyme]

Selvig is closer to a 5 than a 3. He does not have the speed or quickness to defend the three. Every time Selvig has played the three he has gotten burned big time. Selvig natural position is the 4. He will see time at the five and does pretty good there but will not play the three.

With all due respect, Selvig is not a 5 and should not be played there. He does not like to bang inside and do the normal 5 stuff. He is naturally a perimeter player that has a decent three ball. I never said anything about defense. Ideally he would be played against a 4 or maybe even 5 because he is lengthy and can rebound, but to play there offensively is a mistake. I think we all agree that he is a true 4, but that is not the argument. Just because he is over 7' does not mean he should be a 5. Dirk does not play the 5, nor should Derek as they have very similar games. Just saying.

 

[montanatarheel]

I, like everyone else on this board am very concerned about 3 ball shooting next year. it does not seem to be a strength of any of the recruits except michael weisner but he will more than likely redshirt. i think jordan wood will be a solid shooter and might suprise some people if he can get minutes. he had some huge shooting nights towards the end of the season hopefully playing the two he will be more comfortable looking for shots.

It has been mentioned repeatedly on this board about how kareems (man its fun to say that name when talking about your team) jumper has been steadily improving. i was reading online and i found this quite interesting and encouraging. this is a scouting blurb done by jerry meyer for the rivals scouting network december 22 2009 from the city of palms tourney in florida. a large highschool team tourney with serious top level talent:

Kareem Jamar (2010, weschester, montana commit)
Simply put, he has been as good a catch and shoot guy from behind the arc as even the foriegn players from findlay in this tourney. Hit 5 of 9 from three out of his total 17 points.

just one tourney but i sure do love the sound of that.

 

[citygriz]

a year or so ago, i helped create a buzz around will cherry. i'd seen him play in a local summer all-star game involving several pac-10 recruits, and reported that he was easily the best player on the floor. i raved about his quicks and athleticism, of the kind we seldom see at montana. of course, when he showed up, mr. cherry revealed some obvious shooting defects, probably the reason the pac-10 wasn't on him aggressively.

now comes kareem jamar, the next coming of micheal ray richardson in the high hopes of some on this board, but i believe kareem is going to be exactly the opposite of will cherry. i think you're going to find that his raw athletic talent is not as great, maybe even disappointing, but that his overall game is much more refind than cherry's was at a comparable stage. it will surely take him time to adjust to the college game, as it did cherry, but i'm confident that in addition to his rebounding and offensive skill at the basket, he's going to very quickly develop into a reliable three-point shooter. he demonstrated that in the high school championship game i saw on tv, and the report above seems to confirm it.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

I, like everyone else on this board am very concerned about 3 ball shooting next year. it does not seem to be a strength of any of the recruits except michael weisner but he will more than likely redshirt. i think jordan wood will be a solid shooter and might suprise some people if he can get minutes. he had some huge shooting nights towards the end of the season hopefully playing the two he will be more comfortable looking for shots.

It has been mentioned repeatedly on this board about how kareems (man its fun to say that name when talking about your team) jumper has been steadily improving. i was reading online and i found this quite interesting and encouraging. this is a scouting blurb done by jerry meyer for the rivals scouting network december 22 2009 from the city of palms tourney in florida. a large highschool team tourney with serious top level talent:

Kareem Jamar (2010, weschester, montana commit)
Simply put, he has been as good a catch and shoot guy from behind the arc as even the foriegn players from findlay in this tourney. Hit 5 of 9 from three out of his total 17 points. just one tourney but i sure do love the sound of that.

Findlay is one of the (ranked higher than Westchester) if not the best HS team in the country. It recruits HS kids from around the world. Have you seen them play on ESPN? I have. Findlay is located in the foothills of Henderson, NV (suburbia of Las Vegas). So this is quite the showing for Jamar. Things are looking good for this kid. By the way, Findlay is named after the very large Findlay auto group (dealerships) and one of the top executives is oddly enough from the state of Montana.

Jamar's higlhlight clip on MontanaGrizzlies.com is from December 4th at the Trevor Ariza Westchester Tip Off Classic. The game was real live and the crowd got really involved as both teams went back and forth till the last buzzer. Westchester came up on top by 1 point (86-85). Kareem Jamar and Dwayne Polee hit some key jumpers in the 4th for Westchester, and Deanta Burton who finished with 40 points had Comtpon Centennial on his back but he also got some help from PG Harrison Hawkins and F Kevin Smith.

 

[Mslacat]

With all due respect, Selvig is not a 5 and should not be played there. He does not like to bang inside and do the normal 5 stuff. He is naturally a perimeter player that has a decent three ball. I never said anything about defense. Ideally he would be played against a 4 or maybe even 5 because he is lengthy and can rebound, but to play there offensively is a mistake. I think we all agree that he is a true 4, but that is not the argument. Just because he is over 7' does not mean he should be a 5. Dirk does not play the 5, nor should Derek as they have very similar games. Just saying.

Talk to most Basketball coaches or scouts and they will tell that what determine a player position is where he defends, so defense is how I judge what position a player plays. Of course how you look at it might be different than how I do. You and I could argue back and forth all we want, but what counts is where Selvig played and where he will play. Talk to Tinkle he will tell you that Selvig and Qvale will be two of the better "big men" in the league next year. In the great fall tribune last month Tinkle hoped that Selvig would be healthy next year so he could start the two at the 4 and 5 spot. Last season I would say Selvig played over 1/2 his minutes at the center, and 1/2 at power forward. I do not remember him playing one minute at the small forward spot. Next year I see him starting at the power forward (barring injury), but I will bet he will play far more minutes at the center spot than the small forward (if he plays any minutes there).

Yes Selvig is a great passer and perimeter shooter, but today a lot of the better power forward have those skills that is why coaches have gone to calling floor positions by numbers because the old position names (power forward, small forward, center shooting guard point guard) are not as accurate. At the four spot Selvig will still get his three point shots, and will still get a few from the 5 spot but he is not a three. Still though we can argue all we want about it but the truth will come out next year.

 

[bigtyme]

With all due respect, Selvig is not a 5 and should not be played there. He does not like to bang inside and do the normal 5 stuff. He is naturally a perimeter player that has a decent three ball. I never said anything about defense. Ideally he would be played against a 4 or maybe even 5 because he is lengthy and can rebound, but to play there offensively is a mistake. I think we all agree that he is a true 4, but that is not the argument. Just because he is over 7' does not mean he should be a 5. Dirk does not play the 5, nor should Derek as they have very similar games. Just saying.

Talk to most Basketball coaches or scouts and they will tell that what determine a player position is where he defends, so defense is how I judge what position a player plays. Of course how you look at it might be different than how I do. You and I could argue back and forth all we want, but what counts is where Selvig played and where he will play. Talk to Tinkle he will tell you that Selvig and Qvale will be two of the better "big men" in the league next year. In the great fall tribune last month Tinkle hoped that Selvig would be healthy next year so he could start the two at the 4 and 5 spot. Last season I would say Selvig played over 1/2 his minutes at the center, and 1/2 at power forward. I do not remember him playing one minute at the small forward spot. Next year I see him starting at the power forward (barring injury), but I will bet he will play far more minutes at the center spot than the small forward (if he plays any minutes there).

Yes Selvig is a great passer and perimeter shooter, but today a lot of the better power forward have those skills that is why coaches have gone to calling floor positions by numbers because the old position names (power forward, small forward, center shooting guard point guard) are not as accurate. At the four spot Selvig will still get his three point shots, and will still get a few from the 5 spot but he is not a three. Still though we can argue all we want about it but the truth will come out next year.

I appreciate your knowledge MSLAcat, but the fact that he played a 5 by default does not mean he is a 5. If Qvale and Ward are not in the game, naturally Selvig is going to play the 5 because of his height. My saying he is more of a 3 than a 5 is simply a matter of his skillset and where HE would prefer to play. Look at the number of "3s" that the Griz had last year compared to their big men. Of course, he is going to play more 5 than 3. That is a no brainer. And as for coaches calling positions by number instead of names, that is old news. That has occurred for some time. If you pull a 5 out to the three line you completely lose the purpose of having a 5 on the floor, thus the reason I deflect his use as a 5 player.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

They added videos of Art Steward (Casper JC, Wyoming) and Jordan Wood (SNOW JC, Utah) on MontanaGrizzlies.com.

Granted they are highlight viceos, so they both look pretty darn good. Hopefully they can put up plenty of highlights at UM.

Steward looks really athletic, with and without the ball, I am happy about that. And Wood looks like a scrappy kid that can shoot the 3.

I think they will make an impact in their 2 years here, for sure. :thumb: