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Griz football fall GPA 2.92

BWahlberg said:
I'm not big on school/academic smack because it's pretty dumb. Both schools compliment themselves as MSU is considered the best in the state in certain fields while the UM is best in other fields. It's not all fluff either for the UM.

For the UM:

- Pharmacy school was ranked 12th out of 79 national pharmacy schools (source: Skaggs Pharm website)- Of late the UM law school was ranked as high as 6th best value in the nation and scores in the top 25% on the LSATs
- I know the entertainment management certification program in the UM business school is considered one of the best in the nation as well
- While I'm unsure on the rankings, I know the UM PT school is real hard to get into and pretty well sought after.

Each school has their own strengths.

When I graduated, the School of Pharmacy was 5th in the country in NIH research dollars granted at over $10 million that year alone. Not too shabby...
 
BWahlberg said:
I'm not big on school/academic smack because it's pretty dumb. Both schools compliment themselves as MSU is considered the best in the state in certain fields while the UM is best in other fields. It's not all fluff either for the UM.

For the UM:

- Pharmacy school was ranked 12th out of 79 national pharmacy schools (source: Skaggs Pharm website)
- Of late the UM law school was ranked as high as 6th best value in the nation and scores in the top 25% on the LSATs
- I know the entertainment management certification program in the UM business school is considered one of the best in the nation as well
- While I'm unsure on the rankings, I know the UM PT school is real hard to get into and pretty well sought after.

Each school has their own strengths.

As a PT graduate from UM, I can attest to the competitive nature of admission into it. When I went, there were 20 slots a year and they had hundreds of applications. Placement rate was 100%. Passing licensure exam was 100%. At that point, they had never had anyone fail it, in any state. I have worked with people from all over the nation, and the degree stacks up just fine. It is actually better now than it was. They have more faculty, and better facilities. Back then, the department was in the basement of McGill hall, right under the basketball court. Made for interesting lectures. That being said, if my daughter wants to be an engineer or nursing, she is likely going to Bozeman with my blessing. You go where you get the degree you want. Academic smack is so dumb.
 
Not sure what graduate programs have to do with the GPA of the undergraduate athletes.

Lots of students with undergrad degrees from MSU, Carroll, U of Idaho, Gonzaga...etc. are admitted and do well in UM's PT program.

Same goes for the Law School. :-|
 
wbtfg said:
Not sure what graduate programs have to do with the GPA of the undergraduate athletes.

Lots of students with undergrad degrees from MSU, Carroll, U of Idaho, Gonzaga...etc. are admitted and do well in UM's PT program.

Same goes for the Law School. :-|

Several of the Cat fans that post on e-griz have an undergrad degree from MSU and a grad degree from UM.
 
br fan said:
wbtfg said:
Not sure what graduate programs have to do with the GPA of the undergraduate athletes.

Lots of students with undergrad degrees from MSU, Carroll, U of Idaho, Gonzaga...etc. are admitted and do well in UM's PT program.

Same goes for the Law School. :-|

Several of the Cat fans that post on e-griz have an undergrad degree from MSU and a grad degree from UM.

My point exactly.
 
Jerry P has the inverted superiority complex and loves to take a shot at the me, U and the Griz whenever he can. " Both schools have their pluses. If my kinds wanted ag, architecture then MSEuliss. If they wanted Engineering Carroll or Tech. I like smaller schools and Tech grads have been shown to make more money then State.
 
Blgs Griz Fan said:
If my kinds wanted ag, architecture then MSU.

Agreed

Blgs Griz Fan said:
If they wanted Engineering Carroll

What? Doesn't Carroll only offer a 3-2 engineering program? 5 total years and the final two have to be at a school other than Carroll? Not an ideal situation, I'd say.

Blgs Griz Fan said:

Tech is great in mining/petroleum/geological engineering...no doubt about that.
 
Blgs Griz Fan said:
Jerry P has the inverted superiority complex and loves to take a shot at the me, U and the Griz whenever he can. " Both schools have their pluses. If my kinds wanted ag, architecture then MSEuliss. If they wanted Engineering Carroll or Tech. I like smaller schools and Tech grads have been shown to make more money then State.

Yep you're the victim here, 'mam. Did you notice that I complimented both schools and said they each have their strengths? Again, it is understandable why you don't like MSU since you could have never earned your interpretive dancing degree there.
 
BWahlberg said:
- Of late the UM law school was ranked as high as 6th best value in the nation and scores in the top 25% on the LSATs

The bolded is absolutely NOT TRUE. If you can provide a link, I'll eat my words. It's impossible for me to believe that a law school ranked as low as UM, scores in the top 25% on the LSATs. Top 25% of what, anyway? The USA?

No offense intended, Wahlberg. You seem like a great dude.
 
spider said:
BWahlberg said:
- Of late the UM law school was ranked as high as 6th best value in the nation and scores in the top 25% on the LSATs

The bolded is absolutely NOT TRUE. If you can provide a link, I'll eat my words. It's impossible for me to believe that a law school ranked as low as UM, scores in the top 25% on the LSATs. Top 25% of what, anyway? The USA?

No offense intended, Wahlberg. You seem like a great dude.

Give this a roll (pay attention to 19):

http://howtopickalawschool.com/how_to_pick_a_law_school_2_020.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think it is a bit bogus that they have a bunch of school tied at a rank but don't remove the same number of ranks for the number of schools tied but whatever. Brint sure didn't invent the method of ranking (or did he...????)
 
let's hope they (football team) raise the bar and play 3.0+ football this year..........
ya, and the coaches should be at that level as well......weren't they around 1.9 last year?
they have a long ways to go.........good thing they got new ones this year.......get to start from a
CLEAN SLATE!
 
Grisly Fan said:
Give this a roll (pay attention to 19):

http://howtopickalawschool.com/how_to_pick_a_law_school_2_020.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think it is a bit bogus that they have a bunch of school tied at a rank but don't remove the same number of ranks for the number of schools tied but whatever. Brint sure didn't invent the method of ranking (or did he...????)

Never heard of the website linked. That said, it doesn't prove what you want it to. Even if it is legit, there are 101 schools listed above the #19 slot. There are 62 listed below the #19 slot. By my count there are 181 schools listed. Please explain to me the math utilized to conclude UM (a school in the #19 spot) ends up in the top 25% when it comes to LSAT scores.

Even if you go by the ranking alone (19th place out of 29 places), there's no way that's the top 25%.

It's safe to say that, no matter how you slice it, UM isn't even in the top 50%.
 
spider said:
BWahlberg said:
- Of late the UM law school was ranked as high as 6th best value in the nation and scores in the top 25% on the LSATs

The bolded is absolutely NOT TRUE. If you can provide a link, I'll eat my words. It's impossible for me to believe that a law school ranked as low as UM, scores in the top 25% on the LSATs. Top 25% of what, anyway? The USA?

No offense intended, Wahlberg. You seem like a great dude.

Saw it on their website, posting from a mobile device, when I can I'll look it up and post it.
 
wbtfg said:
br fan said:
wbtfg said:
Not sure what graduate programs have to do with the GPA of the undergraduate athletes.

Lots of students with undergrad degrees from MSU, Carroll, U of Idaho, Gonzaga...etc. are admitted and do well in UM's PT program.

Same goes for the Law School. :-|

Several of the Cat fans that post on e-griz have an undergrad degree from MSU and a grad degree from UM.

My point exactly.

And vice versa. Fact.
 
cclarkblues said:
I don't care how you cut it, an A today is still equal to a C- when I was in school.


Professor Laslovich (R.I.P.) used to tell his Poly Sci students that a lot. Judging by all the red ink on my papers I believed him. :)
 
spider said:
Grisly Fan said:
Give this a roll (pay attention to 19):

http://howtopickalawschool.com/how_to_pick_a_law_school_2_020.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think it is a bit bogus that they have a bunch of school tied at a rank but don't remove the same number of ranks for the number of schools tied but whatever. Brint sure didn't invent the method of ranking (or did he...????)

Never heard of the website linked. That said, it doesn't prove what you want it to. Even if it is legit, there are 101 schools listed above the #19 slot. There are 62 listed below the #19 slot. By my count there are 181 schools listed. Please explain to me the math utilized to conclude UM (a school in the #19 spot) ends up in the top 25% when it comes to LSAT scores.

Even if you go by the ranking alone (19th place out of 29 places), there's no way that's the top 25%.

It's safe to say that, no matter how you slice it, UM isn't even in the top 50%.

You have to know what you're looking at when you look at rankings for law schools. UM has one of the smallest law schools in the country, and because of this it can have a very "high" ranking or a very "low" ranking, depending on the ranking system used.

UM regularly ranks "high" in different areas when the rankings are based on percentages. Each UM class has less than 75 students, so it would not surprise me if they were in the "top 25%" in LSAT scores. For example, if UM has 10 students in the top 25, 15% of the student body is in the top 25, which may higher than a lot of "top-tier" schools. I have no idea if this example is accurate, but it shows how UM as a small law school can skew the results if percentages are used.

UM regularly ranks "low" when raw numbers are used for making the rankings. Some ranking systems, most notably US News & World Report, use raw numbers when determining their rankings (i.e., the number of students who get jobs on Wall Street, the number of students who clerk at the Supreme Court, etc). These rankings skew towards large law schools, and UM can't compete in these rankings because it's student body is so small.

UM is very well respected for what it is designed to do: educating lawyers to practice in the State of Montana. But if an attorney plans to work outside of Montana, having the degree from UM will not help them; the student's job prospects are totally dependent on their individual accomplishments.
 
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