Griz Depth Chart vs. North Alabama

[rocklobster]

Knight not an OR with Eastwood this week. Eastwood the starter.

Disappointing; Knight offers more than Eastwood. Pretty obvious in the first game; presume he will get enough reps to make it even clearer.

I bet Knight will get more touches this week! Probably equal reps in practice!

 

[go96griz]

The mind games on this are priceless. Classic Bobby!

How so? Explain...

I really don’t get the “Bobby lies on the depth chart all the time!” narrative. Don’t ever remember that being the case. Please let me know

There are at least 3 things listed on the defensive side of the two deep that appear to be gamesmanship. For example, a late fall camp transfer WR from UTEP that has only had a few weeks of practice at his new corner position is listed as a backup there despite not playing that position since high school. Does that make sense to anybody? There is an “OR” appearing this week which creates doubt about a prior game injury to a starter that is healthy. There is a player listed that is still recovering from a late camp injury that won’t be back for a few more games.

By the way, I’m not saying Bobby is lying. Maybe they will play or maybe they won’t. These things change throughout the week as part of a very fluid situation. :wink:

We have zero experienced athletes at corner behind the starting two. That is why he is listed along with the true freshman did anyone not listed on the depth chart play at corner last week? We brought him in because we are desperate for corners, you don’t know that? You think it’s mind games and he’s not better than everyone else?

I do believe we have a depth issue at CB due to youth and the Egbo injury. Perhaps Kenyan is the best thing since sliced bread at corner but I doubt it, at least at this point. He was listed as the backup at CB for the first game after just over a week of practice. Let's ignore the fact that he hasn't played corner since high school in 2014. More importantly, he was learning a new defense and I highly doubt he could understand the defense in that short period of time. Meanwhile, Tolliver is a transfer having played that position recently and was here for the full fall camp. He was expected to compete for a starting role last year at Hawaii but did not play due to injury and he is a former 3-star recruit. Hemphill plays corner and has had a full year of experience with the defense. There was positive buzz about him during fall camp as well. Eaton switched from WR to CB in 2018 and has also had a full year of playing with the defense. In my opionion, it would be extremely difficult for a WR to walk into a position they haven't played in almost 5 years while at the same time learning a new defense with just over a week of fall camp left and then jump the depth chart past 3 more experienced corners. Do you think this scenario is more likely than gamesmanship? My head says no.

 

[SaskGriz]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

 

[DuCharme]

56, Babros, was out on the field for the first play at USD.

 

[grizaremoregooder]

Ganoung started last week at USD

I’ll have to check the tape, but he was not listed as a starter last week.

Correct, Pillans was listed as starter in depth chart but Ganoung ended up starting over him.

Don’t think Pillans made the trip. I did see 70 & 72 & 77 on the sidelines during the broadcast & in the pics, but no 71.

He was there. So was 77.

 

[grizaremoregooder]

Ganoung started last week at USD

I’ll have to check the tape, but he was not listed as a starter last week.

Correct, Pillans was listed as starter in depth chart but Ganoung ended up starting over him.

Don’t think Pillans made the trip. I did see 70 & 72 & 77 on the sidelines during the broadcast & in the pics, but no 71.

He was there. So was 77.

 

[PlayerRep]

56, Babros, was out on the field for the first play at USD.

And is listed in the post-game stats as the starter.

 

[PlayerRep]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

Depth charts are also put out earlier in the week by the sports info office. Who knows how much attention the coaches pay to them early in the week. Plus, injuries can occur as the week goes on. With injured players, it's not always known earlier in the week if they'll be able to be. Yes, there may also be some gamesmanship.

 

[PlayerRep]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

I didn't know or pay much attention to the type of coverage or coverages UM was playing. If it was more zone or hybrid than pure man, I assume Hemphill would know the zone and hybrid coverages better. Possibly could have been a factor.

 

[SaskGriz]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

I didn't know or pay much attention to the type of coverage or coverages UM was playing. If it was more zone or hybrid than pure man, I assume Hemphill would know the zone and hybrid coverages better. Possibly could have been a factor.

Yeah that was a downside the my EPSN + feed, can't record. I like to go back on tape and see coverages and schemes and stuff like that. Most likely the coverages were a factor in who got used.

 

[jodcon]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

I didn't know or pay much attention to the type of coverage or coverages UM was playing.

WHAT??! You played the game in the secondary, you're supposed to be the SME for all things defensive back we need to know about the Griz?

Man this throws me for a loop.

 

[PlayerRep]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

I didn't know or pay much attention to the type of coverage or coverages UM was playing.

WHAT??! You played the game in the secondary, you're supposed to be the SME for all things defensive back we need to know about the Griz?

Man this throws me for a loop.

Coverages can't be determined watching on tv. One needs a view of the secondary and the whole secondary to determine coverages. This tv producer and the camera people were pretty weak. I suppose I could have just focused on coverage and missed the rest of the game. I wanted to watch the game more than figure out coverages. Heck, you can't even see who's playing where much of the time at the start of the play, because numbers can't be seen.

 

[Yukon]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

I didn't know or pay much attention to the type of coverage or coverages UM was playing. If it was more zone or hybrid than pure man, I assume Hemphill would know the zone and hybrid coverages better. Possibly could have been a factor.

Yeah that was a downside the my EPSN + feed, can't record. I like to go back on tape and see coverages and schemes and stuff like that. Most likely the coverages were a factor in who got used.

you can still watch it as a replay.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

Depth charts are also put out earlier in the week by the sports info office. Who knows how much attention the coaches pay to them early in the week. Plus, injuries can occur as the week goes on. With injured players, it's not always known earlier in the week if they'll be able to be. Yes, there may also be some gamesmanship.

Due to Haucks mystique, he gets the credit for gamesmanship but PR’s point here is probably the real culprit to discrepancies from the listed chart to who actually comes out Saturday. The kid not listed could have a better week at practice also. And yes, like PR and some others said, there may also be some gamesmanship.

 

[Ursus1]

Listing a player as a starter when you know he is hurt from fall camp and cant play that week, and you know this when the depth chart is put out is a very different situation than if an "or" or #2 had a good week at practice and ends up starting . Just saying....

 

[jodcon]

Depth Charts should always be taken with a grain of salt, Coach Hauck's maybe more so than most.
- Foster was listed on the 2 Deep last week and didn't play a snap, Hemphill did.
- Demming was listed (maybe even as a starter, and didn't play) but both Nelson and a "very eager" Mamula played.

I didn't know or pay much attention to the type of coverage or coverages UM was playing.

WHAT??! You played the game in the secondary, you're supposed to be the SME for all things defensive back we need to know about the Griz?

Man this throws me for a loop.

Coverages can't be determined watching on tv. One needs a view of the secondary and the whole secondary to determine coverages. This tv producer and the camera people were pretty weak. I suppose I could have just focused on coverage and missed the rest of the game. I wanted to watch the game more than figure out coverages. Heck, you can't even see who's playing where much of the time at the start of the play, because numbers can't be seen.

Ok that puts my mind at ease a bit, let's be careful about the "haven't watched the game" talk though.

:lol: