Griz DC? Zach Arnett

[kemajic]

I am well aware of that. My point was that young position coach does not necessarily mean he would not be a good defensive coordinator. My other point was that it is my opinion that being burned on 3rd and long by a run play due to poor call by DC would have likely been addressed by Hauck. It did not appear to be addressed by his predecessor. I am not naive and I certainly don't expect miracles just because Hauck is now the coach. I was just trying to put my spin on the fact that Arnett would not necessarily have the same learning curse as Semore based on many factors.

There is no doubt that Semore was on a learning curse.

 

[wbtfg]

I am well aware of that. My point was that young position coach does not necessarily mean he would not be a good defensive coordinator. My other point was that it is my opinion that being burned on 3rd and long by a run play due to poor call by DC would have likely been addressed by Hauck. It did not appear to be addressed by his predecessor. I am not naive and I certainly don't expect miracles just because Hauck is now the coach. I was just trying to put my spin on the fact that Arnett would not necessarily have the same learning curse as Semore based on many factors.

There is no doubt that Semore was on a learning curse.

Ha. Freudian


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[RobGriz]

I am well aware of that. My point was that young position coach does not necessarily mean he would not be a good defensive coordinator. My other point was that it is my opinion that being burned on 3rd and long by a run play due to poor call by DC would have likely been addressed by Hauck. It did not appear to be addressed by his predecessor. I am not naive and I certainly don't expect miracles just because Hauck is now the coach. I was just trying to put my spin on the fact that Arnett would not necessarily have the same learning curse as Semore based on many factors.

There is no doubt that Semore was on a learning curse.

I’m not sure if you meant to type “curse” or if it autocorrected, either way is appropriate

 

[ordigger]

With their DC going to ASU, he will be in line for a promotion and raise at SDSU. I don't see him coming here.

 

[IdaGriz01]

With their DC going to ASU, he will be in line for a promotion and raise at SDSU. I don't see him coming here.

I've thought exactly the same thing every since the DC move to ASU became official. Unless Arnett is not in line for a promotion/raise ... that might well make a move more likely.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Arnett could be Semore 2.0. There would be a learning curve.

If you could get Breske, why not take him? Veteran DC, knows what he's getting into. And you wouldn't have to play against him second to last game of the season.

If Bobby's defensive coordinator ran an all out blitz with our db's in man with their back to ball with no mid level coverage by the linebackers because they were blitzing, on a quarterback with questionable accuracy, on 3rd and 21 even once, do you think the defensive coordinator would have the chance to do it twice?

Yeah, me neither.

3rd and 34.

 

[kemajic]

I am well aware of that. My point was that young position coach does not necessarily mean he would not be a good defensive coordinator. My other point was that it is my opinion that being burned on 3rd and long by a run play due to poor call by DC would have likely been addressed by Hauck. It did not appear to be addressed by his predecessor. I am not naive and I certainly don't expect miracles just because Hauck is now the coach. I was just trying to put my spin on the fact that Arnett would not necessarily have the same learning curse as Semore based on many factors.

There is no doubt that Semore was on a learning curse.

I’m not sure if you meant to type “curse” or if it autocorrected, either way is appropriate

You're going to have to ask grizatwork of that.

 

[kemajic]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

 

[WaGriz4life]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

Bold statement to make after watching one game. Let's go ahead and not mention that this team kicked Stanfords ass as well as Arizona State. Option teams are tough to stop, and you know that

 

[UMcheer2000]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

Bold statement to make after watching one game. Let's go ahead and not mention that this team kicked Stanfords ass as well as Arizona State. Option teams are tough to stop, and you know that

This.

We always struggle against CPoly...

 

[signedbewildered]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

Bold statement to make after watching one game. Let's go ahead and not mention that this team kicked Stanfords ass as well as Arizona State. Option teams are tough to stop, and you know that

This.

We always struggle against CPoly...

I didn't watch the game today but SDSU gave up an avg of 20pts a game this year so not terrible. That includes all games, including today.

Something else to consider is Army completed only twenty passes the ENTIRE season and still won ten games, so ya, defenses have had some issues trying to stop them, not just SDSU.

 

[TCCGRIZ]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

Bold statement to make after watching one game. Let's go ahead and not mention that this team kicked Stanfords ass as well as Arizona State. Option teams are tough to stop, and you know that

This.

We always struggle against CPoly...

I didn't watch the game today but SDSU gave up an avg of 20pts a game this year so not terrible. That includes all games, including today.

Something else to consider is Army completed only ten passes the ENTIRE season and still won ten games, so ya, defenses have had some issues trying to stop them, not just SDSU.

Yeah they were 1 for 2 on passing today .
Average 350 yards rushing per game.
Flat out badass oline

 

[signedbewildered]

^^^ This ^^^

So one dimensional but the one dimension they have is a monster.

 

[IdaGriz01]

... I didn't watch the game today but SDSU gave up an avg of 20pts a game this year so not terrible. That includes all games, including today.

Something else to consider is Army completed only ten passes the ENTIRE season and still won ten games, so ya, defenses have had some issues trying to stop them, not just SDSU.

Yeah they were 1 for 2 on passing today .
Average 350 yards rushing per game.
Flat out badass oline

Some numbers for the season (NCAA stats): Army did indeed average over 350 yards rushing per game ... 355.8 (not including the bowl game), with an average yards-per-attempt of 6.12 (!). They were, in fact, #1 in that category for FBS (Navy was #2, no surprise there).

On the other side, San Diego State went into the game ranked #9 for their rushing defense ... giving up just 110.5 yards per game. (They were #27 for passing yards allowed and #14 in scoring defense.) So they had a bad (bad) day against Army's option, but most teams would kill to have a defense as good as the Aztecs.

BTW: The ESPN stats say Army ended up 1 for 4 in passing. Old joke: They were actually 2 for 4, since one pass was caught by the other team. :lol:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

I know right. SDSU was the only team all season that couldn't stop it.

 

[braves84]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

I know right. SDSU was the only team all season that couldn't stop it.

one big difference is most teams have one week to prepare for it, sdsu had what 2 to 3 weeks. To get ready.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

I know right. SDSU was the only team all season that couldn't stop it.

one big difference is most teams have one week to prepare for it, sdsu had what 2 to 3 weeks. To get ready.

You do realize why teams run the triple option?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Their defense laid a huge egg today. Couldn't get themselves off the field against a one-dimensional team. No capability to stop a run. They don't look to have a lot of stars on that D coaching staff.

I believe it’s four dimensional. TRIPLE option, and a few passes sprinkled in. :lol:

 

[George Ferguson]

CLASSIC EGRIZ. Already bashing the coach who's not even actually the coach. Arnett was NOT THE DC for today's bowl game, and he's yet to be named the DC of the Griz either, and yet, he's being roasted. Like I said, CLASSIC EGRIZ.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

CLASSIC EGRIZ. Already bashing the coach who's not even actually the coach. Arnett was NOT THE DC for today's bowl game, and he's yet to be named the DC of the Griz either, and yet, he's being roasted. Like I said, CLASSIC EGRIZ.

Old guys who could run the defense so much better than the DC, but can't articulate how outside of, "tackle more better" will pop up a lot in the coming years.